Episode 182

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Published on:

4th Mar 2026

Harden Schools, Fix Education, Put Purpose Before Pills

Stronger doors, working locks, bulletproof glass — $500 million could make every American school safe. Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley break down why that hasn't happened, then pivot to a harder problem: schools that don't teach. Miami-Dade has buildings at roughly 30% occupancy turning out graduates who can't read, and political resistance blocks every attempt to fix it. They debate where they disagree — check-ins, legislation, enforcement — and land on a throughline: purpose, not pills. Community intervention in the 50 zip codes where violence concentrates, mental health infrastructure, and giving broken men a reason to stay alive.

Timestamps:

  1. (00:00) Locks, learning, and the way forward – the full episode roadmap
  2. (04:12) Education crisis: Miami-Dade and beyond – ~30% occupancy, low proficiency, zero accountability
  3. (06:39) Curiosity, teaching, and the love of the sea – why information access alone isn't the answer
  4. (14:05) Where they disagree – Jerremy and Dave split on enforcement and legislation
  5. (18:21) Pro-human gun safety – check-ins, kindness, and keeping people connected
  6. (22:32) Purpose not pills – community intervention in the 50 worst zip codes
  7. (25:03) Wrap-up and call to action – where the series lands

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Dave and Jerremy shift from corruption's grip to Parisa's

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ground-level mission—stronger doors,

better locks, bulletproof glass.

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If it costs almost NOTHING

to protect a school...

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why hasn't anyone done it?

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Dave: Just spend a little bit of money on,

just put some damn locks on these doors.

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Jerremy: little bit of money.

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Dave: It is nothing.

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Jerremy: Let's make the doors stronger.

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Let's make sure that they

have locks on everything.

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Let's just make sure that some of the

windows, because this goes back to

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the whole like, Hey, we want to, we

want to keep, keep schools beautiful,

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: Them to be prestigious

and, and gorgeous, and a place

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of love and light and learning.

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We don't want to make them prisons.

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That being stated, are easily those

tiny little changes that won't

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really dramatically impact the

way how, the way a school looks.

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Right?

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So like, if all schools have

bulletproof glass, let's just

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say that as, as a starting point.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: is gonna be,

glass is gonna be glass.

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So we won't need to know the

difference between is it not or is it?

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So if it all just is,

it'll still look the same.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: Stronger doors.

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Well, we all need doors.

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We.

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Open, close, keep sound in and out.

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Okay.

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We can make those four to five, we

can make those stronger and then just

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locks on all, make sure that there's

a maintenance, a safety regulation, an

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agency or an authority that checks every

school once a year and they go through

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just like if you have, if you buy a house

or sell a house, you have some inspection

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and appraisal and the whole process

that you gotta make sure that everything

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is looking good, feeling good, moving.

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Good well.

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Can we do that in for schools?

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Sure.

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We should Or at least be able to, believe.

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yeah.

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Why not, right?

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Why not?

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that seems perfectly reasonable.

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And yeah, low hanging fruit.

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She kept saying that over and over.

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It is just going to have this

like, Hey, here's what it is.

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It's not huge.

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Massive changes.

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Now again, will that

solve attacks on schools?

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Meaning like will the attacks on

schools go down because people

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know that they're more protected?

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Probably not.

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Probably not.

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However, that's very much like saying,

will we have less tornadoes if our homes

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are more fortified against tornadoes?

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Again, probably not, but that

makes the, the home safer

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: there is a tornado outbreak.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: Even though it might not

solve the actual issue, it will, it

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will just prevent loss will increase

the likelihood that there are, less

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casualties in that tornado example.

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Well, in my theory, my thought,

my perspective as of right now,

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not just go ahead and make those

fortifications, especially if

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you're spending so little money.

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That probably could be raised or

donated or, I mean, that wouldn't also

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be that hard, and that's exactly what

she's working on, which is remarkable.

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I mean, I think in that, in that exact

day and situation, we raised, tens

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of thousands of dollars that we're

able to fortify like seven or eight

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local schools, which was so amazing.

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Dave: You did a few just yourself, right?

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Like it, it takes one person

to help just a few schools.

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Dave: That was the round.

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What was the rounding error?

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Was it $500 million?

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Jerremy: Yeah, 500 million

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Dave: Every, every school can be safe.

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like, great.

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I now, I wish we didn't have to have

safe schools like that, but even

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my school a million years ago, I

had doors on, locks on the doors.

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that's just like basic stuff.

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we did the education series like way back

when and teachers are, are struggling

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to, to put pens in their schools.

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And I'm like, ah.

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Why do I keep on having to ask,

where does all the money go?

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Like, ah,

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Jerremy: You've asked

it too many times too.

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You've had to ask it too many times, bro.

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Essentially, every episode, Dave's like,

yo, dog, I, where's the money going?

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Dave: it's unfathomable.

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I.

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Jerremy: What are we doing

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Dave: I was actually looking at Miami-Dade

schools and like they're failing.

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there's, there's only a couple of schools

that even have moderately proficient

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mathematics and reading scores, most.

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Students in Miami-Dade don't even read

to the level that they are supposed

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to, and the schools are mostly empty.

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like they're running like 30% occupancy.

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I'm like, oh God.

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And there, there isn't the political will

to do the right thing because as soon

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as you say, Hey, I'm closing this school

in this neighborhood and I'm busing kids

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to this other one, the parents go crazy

and it's, it's forest for the trees.

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It's like, this is a failing school.

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They would rather send.

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Their kids to a failing school.

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Blame the teachers.

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Blame the, the politicians and blame,

the, the school, infrastructure and

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blame all that, but they're not willing

to do what it really takes, which is.

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make sure that the, the highest skilled

teachers are paying attention to the kids.

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The kids are getting what they need,

and we're holding the kids accountable.

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It's like, we don't just keep

passing the kid, so that they're,

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they're graduating at 18 and they

can't read, like, that's bonkers.

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So this is what Miami Dad's

doing, and I think it's a,

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it's a tragedy, it's a failure.

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It's like they're spending all

this money, but results matter.

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Results matter.

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every single kid needs to be graduating,

that graduates needs to be able to

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read and write and, and be able to do

a, arithmetic and, be solid, citizens.

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And like instead we're, we're, we're

pumping out, crazy illiterate, misses

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that we're just gonna have to deal with.

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When, when, you think it gets

easier when they get in their

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twenties and thirties, it doesn't.

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Jerremy: Isn't that

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Dave: Rant.

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Rant.

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Done.

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Jerremy: No, it is wild, dude.

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It's wild.

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Wild that we're having

that conversation in

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Dave: We're right.

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Jerremy: of the most.

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popular cities in the world,

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Dave: Mm-hmm.

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Jerremy: Miami, Florida.

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Dude, how is this possible?

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How are we failing this bad as a country?

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I mean, it's education people,

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: it's the kids, it's the future.

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And it's not just Miami-Dade as you know.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: I

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Dave: Oh no, it's everywhere.

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Right?

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Jerremy: it's everywhere.

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It's all the major cities.

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Dave: Let me ask you about that though.

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Right.

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21st century, I think, right?

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We have unlimited information

in the palm of our hands.

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I mean, just YouTube alone.

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I mean, people don't have to go to

school, they don't have to go to college.

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they, you can learn everything

and learn it from the best people

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on the planet on YouTube, right?

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And you can get free Harvard classes.

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You, you can do it.

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And so, like part of this

for me is that it's not.

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It's not the education

because it's all out there.

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There's something else.

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It's like, is there a,

is there a motivation?

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Is there a structure?

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Is there an accountability?

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Is there a, there's a something, something

there that I don't, I don't know.

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Like yes, it's education, but

it's the something of education.

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What, what could that be?

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Because it's not the information.

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It is the education, but

it's not the information.

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That's what I got.

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Jerremy: No.

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Yes.

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No, it's not, it's not the information.

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I don't think the information ultimately

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matters slightly, but if we had a

school that just, all they did was

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teach kids how to read incredibly well,

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: like, let, let's just

take math away for like 25 seconds.

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And you taught kids just how to

be incredibly proficient readers,

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Dave: Mm.

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Jerremy: and all they did was read

self-help books and nonfiction

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books and fiction books about

love and pursuit, happiness.

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You're reading the books that

have changed my life as an adult.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: life as an adult

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: and have given me amazing

shifts and have taught me how to create

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wealth and how to create emotional

stability and balance internally

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and all these beautiful things.

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And, and if they have to read those,

they will understand how important is.

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They'll understand how important emotional

regularity, and, and stability is.

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They will understand and learn and,

and feel, and know and see what.

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Powerful communication

is between two people.

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I mean, if you only just read incredibly

insightful books as a product and

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a program and a school, you would

have a revolutionary change and.

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Then you could know.

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All right, well hey, I'm now 16 and all

I really know how to do is read and I

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don't know anything about math, but I'm

gonna be able to figure it out I've been

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inundated with incredible, remarkable

information from people that have

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actually changed this world and changed

this country for the better, have made

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remarkable impacts on the minds of others.

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They will be, and they will

feel so much more equipped.

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That's my, that's my thought on that.

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I mean, but I, but

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Dave: There's a.

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Jerremy: saying like that's, that,

that's an example, Dave, of like Sure.

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Like if, if it's taught, there, if you

pick any specific subject and you have

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incredible teachers that can show you

the why behind while we're learning this.

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And it can show you the importance

when I was in geometry and

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essentially failing miserably.

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'cause I'm like, what am I doing?

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I know I'm not going to ever use this.

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I don't want to, whatever field

I go into, I won't be calculating

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geometric patterns and trying, like

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: if you're building a house or

if you're an architect, it matters a lot.

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It matters a lot.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: I knew I didn't

wanna be an architect.

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I

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: dude in high school.

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I was like, I don't wanna be an architect.

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I can, first of all, I can't draw right.

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First, first and foremost.

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I, I knew, I knew that very early on.

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Dave: I've seen you draw on stock charts.

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Jerremy: Yeah, I can.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I'm not, I'm not drawing

geometrical shapes, guys.

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I draw like horizontal and

vertical lines all day.

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That's all I do.

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So, man, like again, I was

like, why am I learning this?

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Why am I here?

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And that no one could explain it.

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Dave: Hmm.

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Jerremy: No one, the teachers,

the principals, the counselors.

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Like you just have to kind of do it.

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Dave: Builds character.

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Jerremy: Like, no, it

doesn't, it wastes my time.

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Dave: I'm gonna say a little bit from

column A and a little bit from column B.

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B, because you do have to be like, I

didn't know, I didn't like Brussels

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sprouts until somebody had me try it.

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Right?

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And and to this day, I

don't like brussel sprouts,

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Jerremy: Yeah,

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bro,

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Dave: But I.

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Jerremy: Brussels sprouts.

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Dave: But I had to try it.

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Right.

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it's like, so there's a little

bit of like, like the magic of

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teaching is like exposing people.

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There's a, there's a phrase, not a phrase.

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There's a quick story that I, I

will, I will certainly butcher,

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but it kind of goes like this.

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If you need to build a fleet of ship.

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You can gather the men, you can take

them to the, the trees and have them

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chop down the trees, and then you can

have them, built, get all the planks,

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and then you can, you can, you can sew

all the sails and you can, you can get

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all these men to put all this stuff

together and, and create a ship, and

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then you'll have a fleet of ships.

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If you just keep on telling the men,

do this, do this, do this, do this, and

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we're gonna have a fleet of ships, or.

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Or you can teach the men about

the love of the sea and you

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will get your fleet of ships.

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And so that's that love

of the sea that I want.

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I wanna teach more curiosity.

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I wanna get people excited.

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And to your point, if you get excited

about one specific field, you're gonna

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learn all the other pieces, right?

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Like if you get super excited and you

read this thing, it's like, well, of

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course there's math involved in that.

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Of course there's

research involved in that.

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Of course, there's all these.

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Aspects of learning that are there.

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But I want, I wanna teach more

curiosity, but I also wanna expose

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kids to a lot of different things.

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Like they, they should know more

than, what's going on in TikTok.

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Jerremy: Oh yeah, totally, dude.

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A hundred percent.

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Dave: Alright, so what?

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Like that quote, by the

way, they got me all fired.

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I am just such a quote guy.

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But, but, but yes, yes and

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: we think it'd be possible

to expose people to geometry and

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calculus and they have a month

in, Hey, do you guys like this?

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Is this, is this exciting?

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Dave: This isn't for you.

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Jerremy: Do, do you love,

do you love doing this?

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Dave: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Jerremy: Like, okay, theater,

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Dave: Right.

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Jerremy: or drama.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: I went in there

like, this is gonna be dumb.

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I don't wanna do drama.

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And like a week and a half in,

I was like, yeah, I like this.

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This is cool.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Jerremy: I really like, I enjoyed it.

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So I stayed in it.

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And guess what?

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Got an A hi.

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Liked it, had fun, studied it.

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Memorized Shakespeare really

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Dave: Mm.

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Jerremy: All right, so now I, just think e

even these easy, easy, easy, easy shifts.

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I mean, it just seems so, so simple and

I'm over here like, how come no school's

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doing things, things on in a big way?

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Like it's, it's kind

of mind blowing, Dave.

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It still is.

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Every time we get to anything, it's

like, yep, education's still the problem.

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and we're feeling it that, and

we're feeling it to, and actually.

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nationwide scale.

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I have not spoken to one parent

ever that's like, man, the

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education system is kicking ass and

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Dave: Yeah,

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Jerremy: it and it's amazing.

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Dave: yeah.

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Jerremy: Yep.

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That's

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Dave: mm mm Or what did we

not answer on this series?

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I think, I think we might disagree

a little bit on, I, I, I still

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think that there's a little bit of

marginal stuff that we can, we can.

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Keep saying that some of the feel good

laws that we know actually do work.

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like there's, there's, red flag laws.

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There might be, some, like the,

the 10 round limits, on, on

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things I'm on, on the magazines.

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I, I don't necessarily want to throw

those out, but I'm very conscious.

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That those don't really affect

the people who are using the

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most, so they're not my priority.

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My priority is certainly where

we do agree, which is young men.

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veterans suicide because they're

not getting anything right now.

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so that's, that's where we need to do it.

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But it's not like there aren't

laws that aren't, that are common

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sense that communities need to

be able to judge for themselves.

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I don't, I don't necessarily believe

in like a blanket thing that the

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federal government does because every

community's a little bit different.

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I think that some, some, urban,

communities or even suburban

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communities are gonna have

slightly different laws then.

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than like a rural community.

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But on the other hand, it's confusing.

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Like I, I'm, I'm still a

little bit in that world,

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Yeah, I feel you.

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Dave: not by much.

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Jerremy: well, I mean, the one thing

that, I mean, we're not gonna be able

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to of course, solve this or resolve it,

but, bad people will get access to guns

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regardless of what laws are passed.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: I mean, that's,

that's what's gonna happen.

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So the criminal compliance is still going

to be a challenge of some magnitude.

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yeah.

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So I just don't know if that's,

if that's gonna be the, the real.

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People that wanna do harm to someone

else will always find ways to do harm.

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And, and then that's, that's the

question that you gotta kind of ask.

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And, and when, when people say

that America has too many attacks,

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like, why are we even, like,

why do we even have to Right.

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Like that, the underlying core themes.

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Like why do we have to, and

again, it's all gonna come back

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to some version, some level of.

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Care, kindness, compassion, and

love from the entire organization,

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from the entire system.

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And if we're over here with someone

who a career and spent tons of time in

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politics, that's like, Hey man, the system

is corrupt, monetarily, those are gonna

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be some ways that we have to actually

really see it, know it, understand it.

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And we talked about it like kinda

like the current events as well.

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We, we, we debriefed and

mention that a lot where.

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Dude, what are we doing as a nation?

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Dave: Mm-hmm.

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Jerremy: What are we doing when we're just

allowing this to just take place and no

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one is having the righteous arm of the

law really persecute the people need it.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: When you have strong

evidence at this point of

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like, this is, and, and it's.

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And you said it like nine

times, they already knew it.

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These files are coming out to the public

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Dave: Ugh.

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Jerremy: now.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: the files from?

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: They already knew this dude

years ago, and no one is writing about it.

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What?

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What are we doing, man?

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It's just like this.

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It's, it's, it's so stressful to me

sometimes, if you really just let yourself

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marinate on it, because ultimately that

is the problem, like bad people will

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do bad things unless you can find a

way to have their heart changed and.

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Those are always gonna be fun discussions

on like, how, how do you do that?

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And so that's something

that we haven't resolved at.

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I mean, from a disagreement standpoint,

the good news is, yeah, man, I don't

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think you and I at any point on the,

on this exact topic, like, you're

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a hundred percent wrong on this

and I'm a hundred percent right.

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Dave: No.

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Jerremy: you and I don't have any of that.

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ultimately, ultimately, I, I, I certainly

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can come to this agreement with you where.

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the red flag.

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What is that?

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How is it, how do we characterize it?

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I mean, Steven was, was a pretty

big proponent of that, whereas like,

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there has to be, and there could be,

and there should easily be something,

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right, where we just have this mental

check, this mental awareness, this

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mental fortitude, this, if you fit

all the markers of someone should you

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or should you not be profiled, right?

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Should or should you not have.

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Doctor visits, should you or

should you not have someone

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check in on you ever so often?

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make sure you have some phone calls.

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Like, Hey, if you are a single white male

out in the middle of Oklahoma that you're,

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two hours away from anybody and you have

a previous substance addiction, and you

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purchase a gun with a bunch of ammunition.

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a kindness thing in there.

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like we, we, we did our homeless

thing, which is like, look,

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it's, it's barbaric to have any,

anyone sleeping on the street.

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Like it's barbaric and there's

like a human kindness, there's

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a real pro human aspect to this.

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Be like, Hey buddy.

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like you're, you're having some

issues, and like we're, we're

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gonna make sure that we have a

little bit of a bubble around you.

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We're gonna, we're gonna

not seize these guns.

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We're just gonna, we're gonna park

'em with like a CDL or down at the, at

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the, the sheriff's office for a bit.

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Give you the help that you need.

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hopefully you want to get it,

whether it's, substance abuse,

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mental health, crisis counseling,

marriage counseling, whatever it is.

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gonna, we're gonna, ensure that

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you get, get your guns back.

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Hey, things are, things are,

things are a little tough, right?

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I, I know when I lost my wife, like I had

the, the, the wherewithal to ask my family

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to remove all the alcohol from my house

'cause I was gonna drink myself to death.

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like a, a pro human stance.

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Like, look, we're not seizing

your guns, we're not saying that

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there's not due process here.

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We're saying, Hey, hey, we're just

gonna put these over here for a

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little bit and you'll get 'em back.

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Don't worry, it's not gonna be a big deal.

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like, that seems very loving and kind.

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there's a loving kindness to that,

that I think a community could do.

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Like, you could even, you could park

this with the equivalent of like

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a, like a, like a, like a church,

Like an NRA church, being like,

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Hey, we're, we're here for you.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Yep.

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I agree.

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And there were some, some solutions

that we just got all kind of

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like, yeah, this would work.

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And I think that mental

health as a required class.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: Again, man, just

back to whole education.

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I think that the, the community,

the conversation, the communication,

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that would be a big one.

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you, you mentioned that, before the series

even started, you didn't know that we

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had a suicide prevention lifeline, right.

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Dave: Yeah.

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9, 8, 8.

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Dave: So for everybody who's listening

to this, it's like if there's

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somebody in your life that's, that's

struggling, if you're struggling,

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all you have to do is dial 9, 8, 8.

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I didn't even know that was there.

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Well, it's, and it's not as,

it's not as prevalent as 9 1 1.

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one, no one ever talks about it.

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Like everyone knows 9 1

1, it's taught in schools

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Dave: Yep.

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Jerremy: education.

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Hello?

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it's taught everywhere.

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yeah, I mean, that's.

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Why not?

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Right?

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Or why not?

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Why not have a, a, a campaign for that?

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Just so that people become a lot more

aware that it exists and then, yeah,

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man, like veterans exiting from service.

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I mean, that is an entire, very

long, very easy episode of like,

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we are failing in that you huge.

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So mandatory mental health

processing for veterans as they exit.

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And also off probably relatively

frequently, all different types

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of healing modalities, right?

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Somatic stuff,

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Dave: Right.

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Jerremy: stuff.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: Just not let, let,

let's prescribe purpose not

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pills, Let's help people

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Dave: it.

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Jerremy: How and why and where, and

what they can actually do and how they

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can continue to serve their country.

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With their particular set of skills

that they can really become, and

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they can feel like, like they matter.

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Because that's what that,

that's what happens.

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You take purpose away

and you start drowning.

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Dave: Purpose, not pills.

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That is the, that's the

t-shirt right there.

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That's the quote, purpose, not pills.

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community violence intervention.

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This is, this is getting

the communities involved.

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There's 50 zip codes, which has the

most violence in the United States,

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and if we focus on those 50 zip codes.

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With a million bucks.

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That is nothing.

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That's that rounding error.

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That rounding error in the federal budget.

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$50 million.

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That's it.

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Tremendous drop in community violence,

and that's really helping young men, young

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boys, work their stuff out constructively.

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that that's, that's back at the

mental health, but it's also about

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like getting people to love each

other up, not shoot each other up.

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Jerremy: Yep.

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There's a lot of things we can do, man.

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Dave: Harden the schools.

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Stop sending our, our, our

young men, young boys to

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crazy wars as we're doing now.

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like I, that's, it's killing

me because it's killing them.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Stop having worse.

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That'd be great.

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be incredible.

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Dave: Wars of choice.

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Stop doing that because it's,

it's the, it's the veteran, it's.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Dave: We've already lost, six, six

Americans to what's going on in the

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Middle East, just in the first three days.

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But, multiply that by a hundred

and those are the veterans that are

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gonna kill themselves afterwards.

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I, I'm making that up, but, it's not six,

it's 600, so it's, it's, that's real.

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We know that's true and they're not gonna

kill themselves today or tomorrow, but.

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Maybe in a month, maybe within a year

of them getting back and exiting the

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service, maybe, five years from now,

like that's, that's the burden that we're

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putting on these, these young, young

men and women who are serving overseas.

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Stop having stupid wars.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Mental health infrastructure,

community violence intervention

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school, physical school hardening,

ending, like you just said, ending

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perpetual military deployments.

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Mandatory training and continuing

education around guns, around helping

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our, men and women who use it to just

make sure that they, that, that's

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probably just another opportunity

to make sure that everyone's safe.

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I, I really like the ammunition

tax directed towards mental health.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: like, Hey, let's just sprinkle

in just a little bit of extra one.

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And then obviously everyone agrees

on campaign, campaign finance reform.

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We all agree on that.

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all know that we need to do it.

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We're gonna have to do it from

the inside out at some point.

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And, we, we learned a lot.

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We covered a lot, and I'm really, really

pumped, Dave, for our next series.

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For all of our listeners, our esteemed

fans, we're gonna continue to create

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remarkable and incredible content,

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and conversations around how we can not

only find out and determine what the

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challenges and problems are, but come

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This is solving America's problems.

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Solving America's Problems
Solving America’s Problems isn’t just a podcast—it’s a journey. Co-host Jerremy Newsome, a successful entrepreneur and educator, is pursuing his lifelong dream of running for president. Along the way, he and co-host Dave Conley bring together experts, advocates, and everyday Americans to explore the real, actionable solutions our country needs.

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