Why 100M Americans Own Guns for Protection

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Every year over 100 million Americans keep a gun at

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home for one simple reason, to

protect the people they love most.

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From the frontier to the farm.

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Guns have been part of American

life for generations passed down

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with grandpa's stories, used to put

food on the table and kept close

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when the night gets quiet for them.

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It's not politics, it's dad

teaching his kids to shoot safely.

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It's a family knowing they're

covered on a dark country road.

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It's peace of mind that

no headline can take away.

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I'm Jerremy Alexander Newsom with my

co-host Dave Conley, and this is another

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episode of Solving America's Problems.

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Today we are sitting down with two

gun right advocates who walk and

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talk that way every single day.

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My good friend Richie, devoted husband

Rodeo, regular proud dad of three barrel

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racing kids, and a Christian entrepreneur

whose faith and family come first.

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Always.

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And then we have Josiah Graves, serial

entrepreneur, sales leader, team builder,

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and content creator who runs businesses

and still makes time to stand up for

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the rights that keep good people safe.

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Richie Josiah, welcome to the show.

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Josiah: Thanks for having us.

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Jerremy: Yeah, it's gonna be incredible.

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Love that both of you reached out.

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I posted something on Facebook.

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I was like, who wants to talk about guns?

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And you were the first two that said yes.

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And here we are.

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It's gonna be really great.

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So here's what we'll do.

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A open, broad question for both of you and

I'll, Richie, let's have you start first.

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What's the very first

memory you have of a gun?

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Who was there and what did it

mean to you in that moment?

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Richie: I would say really

young, probably three or four.

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I've been hunting with my dad.

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Since I was in diapers.

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I do know that, but I

don't really remember it.

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I would say the first time I ever

shot a gun, I was probably four.

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I actually still have this gun.

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Your introduction literally

made me think of it.

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My grandfather carried a little 22

pistol in his truck and the day he let me

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shoot it, I thought I was on cloud nine.

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We were just shooting

cans in the hunting woods.

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And when he passed away, I got my

pick of the litter of all of his guns,

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and that was the only gun I wanted.

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Because it just reminded me of him.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's awesome.

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I love that.

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And by the way, when you say

hunting, you gotta put a T in

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it for the rest of the episode.

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No, I'm kidding.

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Richie: Sorry, accent,

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Jerremy: No, just kidding.

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Josiah, what about you, man?

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What's your first memory of a gun?

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Josiah: I think my earliest

memory was also with my dad.

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My dad grew up on a farm and so

he was one of those kids that was

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given a gun out of necessity, for

use around the farm at a young age.

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And I think I was probably

between four and five.

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And one night it, I could just tell

he was in one of those I'm gonna

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show my son something cool moods.

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And he had never pulled it out.

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And he took out his 20 gauge shotgun

Remington shot gun that he grew up with

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and showed me, he went through the whole

process of cleaning it and, oiling it.

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And I was I was enamored.

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This was like one of the coolest things.

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And it would be probably another

10 years before I actually ever had

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the opportunity to fire that gun.

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But that definitely stuck

with me as a young boy.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Yeah, What's your strong,

great memories, right?

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It's things.

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that really root you into the safety

of that moment, which makes us think

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of a good question for me, I think.

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Tell us a moment.

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When having a gun actually

made you feel safer?

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Not in theory, like not that

something could have happened,

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but in your physical body.

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Richie: Do you want me to go first.

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Jerremy: Go for it.

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Sure.

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Richie: The first instance so I

have a license to carry before

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Florida, made it open to carry state.

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I was at a gas station

one night getting gas.

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It's probably 10 or 11 o'clock, and

I got approached by a very large man,

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that cornered me, getting out of my

vehicle, so I was essentially trapped.

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Couldn't get out couldn't get by him.

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And I'll never forget this.

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he was Hawking CDs and it was rap CDs.

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And he said, you need to buy my cd.

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And I said, look man, I

don't wanna buy your cd.

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And he's asking for five bucks, and I

said, do I look like the person that

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wants to, listen to that kind of, music?

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And I said I don't have any,

need for it, don't want it.

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But I always keep a pistol in my truck,

everywhere I go and when I opened the door

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enough to where I, could face him, he saw

the pistol, and my hand was right by it.

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I never had to pull it.

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I don't ever, intend to pull it.

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I hope I never have to.

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When he saw that it made him

enough aware of the situation that

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he backed up and left me alone.

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That just solidified that.

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had I not had that, I

can tell you right now.

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I'd like to consider myself a

pretty big dude myself, six two,

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but I couldn't have stopped him.

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He's probably three 50 pounds.

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This man was massive

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Jerremy: Or you would've had $5 less.

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Richie: Or a wallet, whatever.

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I don't know what he was after

I might've had a crappy, cd.

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I have

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Dave: You have a CD player?

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Richie: Back then I did

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Dave: Okay.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Richie: Was only probably 20 I may have

been 25 at the time and that's the first

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real instance that I've actually like.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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This is real for one.

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And.

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It can happen any anytime,

anywhere, any place.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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All right.

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Josiah, what about you?

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Josiah: Yeah.

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I think it was in 2015 I also am, have

a concealed carry permit and I was it

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was actually with my dad, funny enough.

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And just me and him were on a trip

and we were staying at like an

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Airbnb and there were some I'm not

gonna name names, but there were

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some extended family members there.

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And one of 'em it was just

me and my dad at the house.

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We were cooking dinner and this guy came,

back to the house and I don't know what he

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was angry at my dad about, but it was bad.

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It was like evil.

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He was.

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Very much ratcheting the

temperature of the situation up.

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And my dad is not a fighter, and I

knew, I, was like, this guy is about

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to like, knock my dad out or worse.

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I was not in the room.

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I was sitting out on the patio

and there was a glass sliding door

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between where this altercation was

going on and where I was sitting.

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I was place was on the lake and I

was actually rigging up a a fishing

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rod to do some night fishing.

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And I was listening to what was

going on, hyper aware, and it

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was getting worse and worse.

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And I reached back behind me and I

clicked the safety off on my pistol.

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Fully prepared to if this person

violently attacked my dad, like it

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sounded could happen to defend him.

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And thank goodness I didn't have

to, it didn't get to that point.

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That person stormed off outta the room.

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Still in a rage.

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But nothing happened in that moment.

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And obviously my dad and I

were both pretty shaken and

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we got outta there that night.

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But I think that was the first time

that I've ever actually clicked

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the safety off on my carry gun.

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It was very real.

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And not something I ever wanna

experience again, but also very

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thankful that I was in a position to

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Protect someone who may not have

been able to protect themselves.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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And so for both of you, at some

point you said the word protection.

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When you think about guns today,

for you personally, for people that

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you know, for friends, do you feel

like it's more about protection?

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Or is it more passing down traditions?

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Is it the sport of shooting or hunting,

or is it something else entirely?

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Josiah: For me, it's all of those things.

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It to me, none of those

things are mutually exclusive.

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I think the tradition is important.

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Obviously I, stand on my faith as a

Christian and very much believe in the,

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role that I feel like I was given as

a, father and a husband, to protect my

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family but also when I'm out in the world

to protect people who, are around me who

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may not be able to protect themselves.

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So I do feel like that is a God-given,

responsibility to to humans in general,

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but especially to us as God-fearing men.

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But absolutely the tradition of

hunting, people being connected to

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their, to where their food comes from

I think is more important than ever

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nowadays, and I think everything you

mentioned there, Jerremy is important.

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I wouldn't say any one of those

things is more important other.

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Jerremy: Totally.

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Rich, what about you buddy?

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Richie: Yeah.

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Very well said.

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I don't think I could say that any better.

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I, there's a huge emphasis

on tradition in my family.

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I have three daughters.

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They're now six 13 and three and my

13-year-old killed her first buck.

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This past year.

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That was probably one of the coolest

things I've ever witnessed and, having

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the conversation with her about the

tradition of this and going through the

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tradition of, the blooding phase where

put a little blood on her face, and

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having the conversation about this is

where your foods come, so you appreciate

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the deer and you appreciate what you

just did to provide for our family and

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how important it is to understand that

taking a life is not it's not something

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you do just willy-nilly I guess you would

say and then starting my now 6-year-old

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last year so she would've been five we

went out shooting for the first time

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and I'm sitting there teaching her about

firearms and teaching her how to properly

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hold the firearm shoot the firearm, and

it's, it's a little 22 so it's not that

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crazy And she just thought that was.

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That was the best time to her it's having

fun with dad To me it's instilling those

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traditions that I was raised up on and

learning from the get go 'cause I grew

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up in a gun store my dad owned a gun

store for 30 years first interaction

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with a gun was probably when I was

one just being in dad's store now my

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three-year-old is asking me when can

she start shooting so there's all these

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things that coming together I feel that

is major tradition that I think is lost

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or losing in a lot of families part of

it being access it gets hard to get to

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a range There's not ranges everywhere.

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I was blessed to grow up on property so

we go out in our backyard to shoot when I

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was eight nine years old, it was okay for

me to walk around with a shotgun and shoot

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doves out of the trees knowing whatever I

shot I had to eat I was home alone doing

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it nowadays there's no telling what would

happen if a kid was doing that but it is

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something that is very instilled in me

and I want to instill it in my kids from

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the protection side I always think my

kids come first and my wife comes first

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if my mind is not thinking that way I'm

very defensive minded anyway my wife knows

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we go to a restaurant i'm not sitting my

back to the door I will not do it and she

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knows She'll sit down and I'll look at

her and she's like, all right, I'll move.

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And sometimes it's sheer accident,

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Dave: She can sit with

her back to the door.

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Richie: Exactly I'm always aware and I'm

always looking because we don't live in

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the same world we lived in when I was 15

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Dave: Yeah.

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Richie: So with kids with wives and like

what Josiah said I don't expect my wife

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to be able to fend something off but if

I'm there, I'm going to do my best to

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do so it's very much what he said it's

tradition, It's protection it's family

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values it's learning the right way

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Jerremy: love it.

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Beautiful.

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Gentlemen, here's a fun one for you.

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Let's go with Richie first.

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Richie, what's the hardest part of

owning guns that People who do not

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own guns would never guess or assume.

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And just to give you some

ideas, is it the maintenance?

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Is it training time?

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Is it mental weight?

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Do you feel judged?

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What does that look like or feel

like regarding the hardest part

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of owning a gun, if there is.

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Richie: Training is probably the hardest

and most valuable anybody can really go

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buy a gun but if you're not trained on

it properly it can be dangerous it is

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very dangerous i've had several friends

that call me and say, Hey, I wanna buy

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my first gun I wanna Just keep it in a

lockbox at the house for protection and

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the first thing I say is okay, come over

to the house and we'll shoot all My guns

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see which one you like see which one fits

good for you but then I'm gonna teach

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you the ins and out of this gun how to

properly break it down to clean it safely

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so that you don't shoot yourself in the

leg or shoot one through the ceiling.

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Which I have seen all of these things

happen and and there is a mental hurdle

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in my head sometimes of yes I'm a gun

owner and I'm very proud of being a gun

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owner but as dave and I were discussing

earlier like I don't want to deal

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with some crazy person that doesn't

agree with me or my ideology And the

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next thing you know I've gotta hear it

for six months and they're making my

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social media hell and they're trying

to contact everybody you keep it quiet.

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I'm not a boastful gun owner but

anybody that knows me knows there's

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probably a lot of firearms at my

house so I guess that would be it

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Love it.

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Thank you.

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Josiah, what about you bud?

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What's the hardest part of owning a gun?

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Josiah: And not buying more guns

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Richie: Very true.

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Dave: So, it's a habit really.

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I need another gun.

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Josiah: Yeah it really.

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Once you develop that love, and,

it's not a cheap hobby, and I'm

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giving this, somewhat comical

answer because what Richie said was

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really absolutely the right answer.

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I wanna make sure that everybody

understands that just possessing a

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firearm is not enough You have to

train and not just train, but you

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have to train under stress because

if you're ever in a situation where

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your safety or your life or the life

of someone else hangs in the balance,

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your adrenaline's gonna be dumping,

your heart rate is gonna be thumping.

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Right?

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And to be able to make snap

decisions wisely with a tool in

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your possession that can be the

difference between life or death.

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You have to train for that.

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And If you have not trained for that your

unpreparedness is going to show up in a

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way that you never could have anticipated

so I wanna make sure everybody listening

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understands that what Richie just said

is absolutely the right answer I just I

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was like all right since he took that off

the table we'll go the fun route, right

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But that really is once you get into the

sport the hobby whatever you wanna call

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it there's all kinds of different firearms

for all kinds of different purposes.

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And it really is fun once you know what

you're doing, you know, how to operate

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them correctly it really can be a lot of

fun And it is, a big challenge to not just

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spend all the money that you have on guns.

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I have a shirt.

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I thought about wearing it this

morning, but it's too cold.

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But the shirt says money can't buy

happiness, but it can buy guns.

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And that's pretty much the same thing.

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Jerremy: I that's a

real valid point, right?

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The expense of guns, they're expensive.

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So if you wanna buy more buckle up right?

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Josiah: And ammo, too.

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Jerremy: Coins.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Here's a question then that I'm sure

a lot of our listeners who do not own

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guns are really excited to hear about.

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we've mentioned traditions, we've

mentioned passing all of this down

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when kids, grandkids, friends,

other family members are in the

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house, which will be happening

soon as we approach Thanksgiving.

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How do you handle keeping guns

both safe and then also ready?

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What does that physically look like?

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Are they actually in a safe,

are they somewhere else?

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Richie mentioned it briefly, but we would

just love for you guys to walk us through.

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What that looks like.

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Richie: So i approach this from two

different standpoints, and I'll start

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with the first with my kids my kids know

that if they touch a firearm without dad

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present that's their ass There's no way

around it and it goes back to how did you

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learn as a toddler not to put your finger

in the light socket You were told you were

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explained you didn't learn by sticking

it in there and shocking the piss outta

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yourself so I treat guns the same exact

Way now they're not just laying around

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I have every firearm locked up a second

access away that only I can get into or

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my wife can get into so it doesn't bother

me there can be a thousand people at

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my house They can't get to my firearms

that's not a problem for me and as my

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kids got older when they were little i'd

hide 'em on top of the closet where they

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can't reach And as they've gotten older

I was like okay they need to be put in

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a box They're getting, they can climb

now they can do all those things and I

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want quicker access I can't have one in

my nightstand drawer I would never do

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that because that's easy to get to but

every firearm I have is either in a gun

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safe or a lockbox, like one's attached

to my bed and I have a fingerprint,

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I have a button or I have a passcode.

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So I have three different options To

get into that in under a second and so

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it doesn't really bother me it doesn't

scare me but it goes back to I guess you

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would call it the training or mentoring

of firearms like I was taught from a very

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young age a firearm can kill you A firearm

can hurt you if you touch this without

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your father or your grandfather present

you are gonna get your tail tore up no

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questions asked and that was the rule

set and that was what was followed and I

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knew I didn't want that tail whipping so

I never tempted it my kids are the same

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way they want to go shoot and there's been

countless times where I'll open the gun

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safe and I'm going in to get something

and they walk up and I just look at em and

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they're like they're looking at me like

can I do it I'm like nope we're not doing

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And they back up and it's just ingrained

in em So they know it's not to say it

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couldn't happen, but they just know.

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Dave: So

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Richie: other way

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Dave: Yeah, you're talking

about good parenting.

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How about somebody who comes into your

house that may not be familiar with guns?

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Do let 'em know?

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Or what happens?

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Particularly?

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Yeah, like I think what Jerremy was

saying, it's like holidays are coming up.

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You might have all sorts

of folks in your house.

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Richie: I'm not gonna advertise

it they can't get to 'em.

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Them.

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Okay.

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It's not Yeah i'm not advertising it I'm

not hey let's go look at the guns unless

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if I got a collector's gun or something

cool and the guys are wanting to look at

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stuff like that and we're talking guns

sure but that's just us walking over there

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opening up, and then I lock it back like

I'm not leaving it open Or I don't even

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have guns on display like a mantelpiece

I would love an old side by side rabbit

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or shotgun to hang over the mantle But

even that I it's unnecessary in my opinion

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Dave: How about you, Josiah?

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Josiah: Yeah totally agree with what Rich

said on the training the kids part that's

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how I've always done it in my house.

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Seeing a gun in my house for my kids is

not weird so there's no curiosity there

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and I think that's the key if the kids

have been taught that responsibility

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and they've been taught that healthy

respect, I can, if I'm working on a

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rifle or cleaning guns or something like

that I've done Kind of experiments where

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I've left them out on the counter for an

afternoon and stuff like that Obviously

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with no ammo near them or anything like

that and all of my kids just ignore them.

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It's like seeing a cup on the counter

or something like that because they've

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been brought up around them The danger

comes in when you've got a curious kid

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who's trying to, they're learning they're

figuring out the world around them

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and they never have been around a real

firearm They've never been around a real

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firearm and they see one laying somewhere.

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That's where it's dangerous like was

saying, I never have to worry about that

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with my kids cause they've been taught

a healthy respect And I also, a couple

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of times when they were too young, took

them out with me shooting and let them

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experience the loud Concussive noises

that these things make, and all you

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really have to do once is shoot an apple

or a watermelon or something like that

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and say See what that just did right?

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Like that is what will happen

to you or me if we're on the

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business end of this thing.

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So this is why these rules that I'm

teaching you are so important, right?

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And that sticks with the kid,

especially if you teach 'em young.

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So never had a problem with

the kids again it's normal, and

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they have a healthy respect and

they've been taught those things.

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As far as guests coming into the

house, no, you could easily be

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in my house for a weekend and

have no idea there's guns here.

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Richie said it's not advertised unless

something went down No one would ever know

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And if I wanna show a buddy a build

that I did or something like that, they

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don't go with me to where it's stored

I get it out, and I bring it out into

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the living room or the dining room

or whatever, check it out, whatever.

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And then I go and

disappear and put it away.

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So I'm never leading, guests

in my house to directly where

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things are stored either.

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There's other layers to that too

obviously for tactical, quick response

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time sake you want to have some things

that do have a round in the chamber but

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you want that to be ideally a double

action firearm, something that a young

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kid couldn't pull that first trigger

pole, it's 12 pound trigger pole.

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They wouldn't be able to pull it Something

with a lighter trigger pole or a single

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action you do not want to keep in the

chamber So you wanna make those kind

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of tactical decisions as well as far as

what your quick response time guns are

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and kind of balance that with safety,

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Jerremy: Love that.

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Thank you.

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Alex: Josiah's kids ignore unloaded

rifles sitting out — his kids

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walk past like it's nothing...

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because respect got taught early.

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But outsiders see an "ignorant

redneck" and the label won't shake.