What 3 Episodes on School Shootings Actually Taught Us (Full)
Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley just finished their first deep dive—three raw episodes on school shootings—and they’re changed. No spin, no named fixes. Just the gut punches that stuck: sedentary kids, garbage food, over-medication, crushed teachers, zero real community, and money vanishing into bureaucracy. This wrap-up is Jerremy and Dave stripping it down to what actually matters and why the simple human stuff beats fortress schools every time. If you only catch one episode from the series, make it this one.
Timestamps:
- (00:00) What We Learned – full school-shooting series recap
- (00:59) Cold open and why this hits different
- (01:37) The big-picture reflection nobody wants to say out loud
- (03:25) Tech fixes that actually work right now
- (08:12) Human-centric safety over metal detectors
- (09:29) Teachers and parents tell the unfiltered truth
- (22:14) Where the money really goes (and doesn’t)
- (36:49) The dead-simple fix: enriched environments
- (37:42) Teachers breaking down from impossible conditions
- (39:36) Tech in schools – blessing and curse
- (43:09) Why the best teachers still show up every day
- (44:31) Lori’s story – from tragedy to relentless advocacy
- (46:53) Rebuilding community as the real firewall
- (57:18) Education as the root of everything broken in America
- (01:05:06) Next fights coming and final punch in the gut
📢 Solving America’s Problems Podcast – Real Solutions For Real Issues
Transcript
Day five and we’re not slowing down — whole episode, straight through.
Michael:Here you go.
Alex:Solving America’s Problems – the wrap-up episode nobody saw coming.
Alex:[short pause]
Alex:[slow, dead-serious] Jerremy and Dave just spent weeks dissecting school
Alex:shootings with security experts, frontline teachers, and a mom who
Alex:turned Parkland into Alyssa’s Law.
Alex:[quiet intensity] They went in thinking tech, threat assessments,
Alex:maybe some panic buttons would fix it.
Alex:[voice drops] They came out realizing the entire system is quietly
Alex:manufacturing the exact kids most likely to snap – garbage food, zero
Alex:movement, over-medicated, buried in paperwork, and zero real community.
Alex:[sharp] The money’s there, the budget’s massive, yet teachers are
Alex:drowning and kids are simmering.
Alex:[low, almost whispering] What actually broke in the nineties that turned this
Alex:into an American epidemic, and why is almost nobody talking about the real root?
Alex:Jerremy and Dave lay it bare.
Jerremy Newsome:Ladies and gentlemen, solving America's
Jerremy Newsome:problems is already blowing up.
Jerremy Newsome:Tons of you are reaching out, asking, making statements, getting involved in the
Jerremy Newsome:comments, telling us what's going right, what's going wrong, and that Is precisely
Jerremy Newsome:what we want because over the next few years we're going to continue Building a
Jerremy Newsome:beautiful framework and building block.
Jerremy Newsome:It's not only a reshape and reform education, but continue to understand
Jerremy Newsome:truly The solutions to America's problems.
Jerremy Newsome:America being the greatest country in the world and therefore giving
Jerremy Newsome:us the greatest problems to solve.
Jerremy Newsome:And this episode, myself and Dave Conley, we are discussing and
Jerremy Newsome:going through a reflective period about what we've learned from these
Jerremy Newsome:episodes about school shootings.
Jerremy Newsome:After spending time talking to experts, educators, and advocates, Dave and I
Jerremy Newsome:realized we weren't the same people we were when we started the series.
Jerremy Newsome:And maybe that's the exact same thing for you as well, our listeners.
Jerremy Newsome:So today we're hitting pause to reflect, not just on what we
Jerremy Newsome:learned from our guests, but how these conversations Changed us.
Dave Conley:Yeah, we just didn't want to move on to the next topic and be like,
Dave Conley:okay, we put that in a box, here we go.
Dave Conley:Next topic.
Dave Conley:this was school shootings and school safety.
Dave Conley:We didn't want to just leave it behind knowing that we'll come back to this
Dave Conley:because it's ongoing and it's big and it's complex and it's simple in a lot of ways.
Dave Conley:So there a lot of stories here that I know stuck with me, stuck with you.
Dave Conley:let's take a beat and be like, okay, what was this all about?
Dave Conley:That's the idea.
Jerremy Newsome:Yep.
Jerremy Newsome:That's the idea because for our listeners, we just want you to all and understand
Jerremy Newsome:the premise and the reason that we came out with school shootings as really
Jerremy Newsome:our main priority is because it's just the most egregious thing to me.
Jerremy Newsome:And again, as my Presidential campaign begins to evolve the focus on educational
Jerremy Newsome:reform and understanding how massively impactful that is to our nation,
Jerremy Newsome:to our country, to our citizens.
Jerremy Newsome:Every parent that I talked to knows it's a problem and every
Jerremy Newsome:child doesn't like school.
Jerremy Newsome:But as we continue to progress and understand these things, we
Jerremy Newsome:really have to just obviously talk about the safety of our schools.
Jerremy Newsome:And man, in episode one, it was really awesome having Robert and
Jerremy Newsome:Alonzo being there to just give us some guidance about what's going
Jerremy Newsome:right in the private sector, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Robert brought his tech driven perspective.
Jerremy Newsome:Let's talk in cyber security, AI, advanced school safety technologies,
Jerremy Newsome:and Alonzo, really being on the ground, providing conversations
Jerremy Newsome:about real world experiences, things that he's done, sharing practical
Jerremy Newsome:strategies from his military and security consulting background.
Jerremy Newsome:Just gave us really a big complex, but also beautiful realization that
Jerremy Newsome:there are people doing things, how many times you've heard Dave Oh,
Jerremy Newsome:we should do something about this.
Jerremy Newsome:Like when people get up in arms about whatever problem is happening, but
Jerremy Newsome:this is an example that there are people doing something about this
Jerremy Newsome:One of my goals is to put a big spotlight on that, continue to bring
Jerremy Newsome:it to the forefront, let people know, see, feel, and understand it so that
Jerremy Newsome:we can continue to hopefully maybe even put on a pedestal and just get
Jerremy Newsome:the government more involved as well.
Jerremy Newsome:So that we can have this collaboration, this cohesion, bring individuals
Jerremy Newsome:together and start really championing this vision so that there's no more
Jerremy Newsome:mass school shootings in the country.
Dave Conley:100%.
Dave Conley:that we started with Robert and Alonzo.
Dave Conley:It started to frame this from, I think, my bias, which is if we just pour money
Dave Conley:into threat assessment, which is the human element, and that's where Alonzo was, and
Dave Conley:if we just pour money into technology, And that really evolved for me over the course
Dave Conley:of this one because one part that freaked me out was these AI powered camera systems
Dave Conley:and these gun detection systems and I'm like, oh my God, at one point robot dogs
Dave Conley:walking around and I'm like, Oh my god, I don't even like going through TSA.
Dave Conley:I can't imagine sending kids into.
Dave Conley:I said it a few times in these episodes it's the cathedral versus the prison.
Dave Conley:And I come back to that.
Dave Conley:If we have beautiful places, then you're going to act and be beautiful.
Dave Conley:if you're in a prison, you're going to act like you've done something wrong.
Jerremy Newsome:What Robert was sharing some pretty surprising
Jerremy Newsome:examples about the ball.
Jerremy Newsome:Remember the rocks like to prevent vehicle attacks?
Jerremy Newsome:I was like, that seems so easy, all schools having
Jerremy Newsome:these just boundary locations.
Jerremy Newsome:These perimeters.
Jerremy Newsome:Where you're placing rocks.
Jerremy Newsome:And as he was talking about that, I was also thinking, okay inside those
Jerremy Newsome:rocks, could you have some type of EMP radar he mentioned LIDAR detective
Jerremy Newsome:system that just can track weapons.
Jerremy Newsome:That's all it does
Dave Conley:Okay.
Jerremy Newsome:being trained or being systematized for that, meaning
Jerremy Newsome:it can't pick up anything else, but if there is a weapon nearby and alert
Jerremy Newsome:goes Can it be trained for that?
Jerremy Newsome:Is there, something that can be placed potentially, Dave, there's something
Jerremy Newsome:placed in every non military gun, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Every civilian gun.
Jerremy Newsome:That's just maybe a microchip or some type of device that this system can detect.
Jerremy Newsome:Is this what you're thinking when he was talking about that?
Jerremy Newsome:Or was it just me?
Dave Conley:I think what came up a lot, over the course of this, I did start with
Dave Conley:oh, if we just poured money into it, if we had the, I don't even, I still don't
Dave Conley:know what digital twin actually means, like he used a lot and I just, in my
Dave Conley:mind, just dollar signs kept on going off and I'm like okay, sure, rocks are.
Dave Conley:a cheap solution to prevent somebody from driving into a
Dave Conley:school, but is that big of a threat?
Dave Conley:I don't know, man.
Dave Conley:Sure.
Dave Conley:Like it doesn't sound like a bad idea and I mean what came up in three in
Dave Conley:particular was how money is disconnected from the system, how little money actually
Dave Conley:gets down to where it needs to go.
Dave Conley:And the people who are making the decisions are being like,
Dave Conley:yes, of course, put metal detectors in every single school.
Dave Conley:I'm like does every school need that?
Dave Conley:And now you've got to keep these systems up to date.
Dave Conley:You have to have people who are screening students.
Dave Conley:can you imagine getting a thousand kids through a system every single day?
Dave Conley:Then you have set up like a TSA system.
Dave Conley:And I'm like, ah, I don't know.
Dave Conley:Is that the first place we start or the last place?
Dave Conley:And it felt like to me that it was the first place.
Dave Conley:I liked more of where Alonzo was coming from, which had a very
Dave Conley:human element of what's the threat?
Dave Conley:Where is the actual threat assessment?
Alonzo A:If we're looking at the buildings themselves, we should have a
Alonzo A:baseline of where these schools are in the sense of a threat assessment, right?
Alonzo A:We've probably talked about or heard about threat assessments before,
Alonzo A:but a basic on a basic level.
Alonzo A:We can look at a threat assessment to see how vulnerable the schools are
Alonzo A:and just some things we can do across the board to make the school safer
Alonzo A:with, with the caveat that we're not making the schools feel like a prison.
Alonzo A:some baseline things we should look at, because that's gonna be a factor that
Alonzo A:it's okay, we can ramp this up, 1000%.
Alonzo A:But what are the low hanging fruit things that we can do to
Alonzo A:make things a little bit better?
Dave Conley:And that came back in two and three from me is having a very
Dave Conley:human centric approach, having a student centric approach, having a teacher
Dave Conley:centric approach, and really focusing on where you need to put gas on something
Dave Conley:and where you need to put a break.
Dave Conley:It was priority seem overall, like the big picture of this priority seem
Dave Conley:completely mismatched with the actual
Jerremy Newsome:and when you're saying two and three, you're meaning
Jerremy Newsome:episodes two and three just for the listeners and to remind them very
Jerremy Newsome:quickly, we're going to continue to touch on that in this episode, right?
Jerremy Newsome:The episode two is the educator's perspective.
Jerremy Newsome:So we brought three actual educators in who have worked in
Jerremy Newsome:and around schools as teachers.
Jerremy Newsome:And then we brought someone In episode three who actually had the unfortunate
Jerremy Newsome:impact of all this happening.
Jerremy Newsome:And so we really did our best to come full circle.
Jerremy Newsome:If you think about it from a, all right, are there people who
Jerremy Newsome:are working on actual prevention?
Jerremy Newsome:All right, there are.
Jerremy Newsome:Cool.
Jerremy Newsome:Let's talk about that.
Jerremy Newsome:And then the people who are in the schools, and then someone who's
Jerremy Newsome:also working to prevent this.
Jerremy Newsome:the prevention policy, the prevention piece.
Jerremy Newsome:I love the word that you've just used the human perspective, right?
Jerremy Newsome:That human centric focus where the big unfortunate, hairy, scary
Jerremy Newsome:debate that's happening out there on social media is guns, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Arm them to the teeth or take every gun away.
Jerremy Newsome:No one should have a gun.
Jerremy Newsome:Me and you both know that's never going to create a solution.
Jerremy Newsome:When you are focusing on an amendment, when you're focusing on someone's belief
Jerremy Newsome:structure, that particular topic, isn't what's going to solve this problem.
Jerremy Newsome:And most people, the first time I mentioned this
Jerremy Newsome:podcast and I talk about it.
Jerremy Newsome:They actually generally do bring up gun violence and again to my point It's like
Jerremy Newsome:I don't believe that's going to be the solution to an issue because it's too
Jerremy Newsome:divisive There's too much you make one choice in one direction Someone's gonna
Jerremy Newsome:a large swath of people are gonna get very angry at you, but there has to be
Jerremy Newsome:To your perspective, if we begin to make these shifts in schools, if we begin
Jerremy Newsome:to make these shifts where we really understand extremely well the profile
Jerremy Newsome:of a child or teenager or young adult who actually commits this heinous crime,
Jerremy Newsome:and then we begin to work on reverse engineering it, saying what caused that,
Jerremy Newsome:at what time, Of the century did that begin to happen begin to build up begin
Jerremy Newsome:to scale up really get some Professional specialists and I know we're working on
Jerremy Newsome:this but get extreme details on who why?
Jerremy Newsome:reverse engineer so that in our schools The individuals who are bullied, the
Jerremy Newsome:individuals who have mental health, the individuals who do not feel like
Jerremy Newsome:they're being heard or listened to, or the individuals who also feel
Jerremy Newsome:like they're just not being seen.
Jerremy Newsome:How can we create a culture where so much more shift is happening towards
Jerremy Newsome:Conversations in school, openness, gathering more prayer circles, more
Jerremy Newsome:conversation circles, more discussion circles where we are allowed and open to
Jerremy Newsome:have conversations that flow conversations that spark interest conversations that
Jerremy Newsome:allow child to know each other, to feel each other, to understand who each
Jerremy Newsome:other is from a humanistic standpoint, so that way that they're no longer
Jerremy Newsome:essentially these frustrated adolescent hormone driven on on loved and uncared
Jerremy Newsome:for from a community standpoint, right?
Jerremy Newsome:These children no longer feel like they are by themselves.
Jerremy Newsome:There's a community.
Jerremy Newsome:There's a group of individuals.
Jerremy Newsome:There's a group of schools.
Jerremy Newsome:There's a group of teachers.
Jerremy Newsome:There's a group of Parents that are all just coming together to champion
Jerremy Newsome:them and champion that vision.
Jerremy Newsome:This is a, to your point, a humanistic standpoint that we can really
Jerremy Newsome:gather together and start making the impact before it even begins, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Starting at the root of the issue, which is that internal fear and frustration
Jerremy Newsome:that at some point explodes into violence.
Dave Conley:Yeah.
Dave Conley:I've been trying to fit it in my head as to all the different
Dave Conley:aspects that we looked at.
Dave Conley:And I think of it this way, there's a cause component, like there's
Dave Conley:a reason that this is happening.
Dave Conley:And there's a reason why it keeps on going up.
Dave Conley:And I think we've touched on a lot of those places, particularly when
Dave Conley:we talked to number two, and then there's this world of prevention.
Dave Conley:And identification, prevention and identification.
Dave Conley:It's okay, we have the monitors, we have the technology, we have the threat
Dave Conley:assessment, and in a sense, in my mind, the bombs already gone off, like we've
Dave Conley:already primed something and we're building all of these systems around it,
Dave Conley:what I learned throughout this is that it's not necessarily a quick solution.
Dave Conley:And then there's this protection element of, okay, don't arm the
Dave Conley:teachers, do arm the teachers, have the fortresses, there's this world of wow.
Dave Conley:I think with this very first episode, I'm struggling with what's going on?
Dave Conley:Can we even define this issue?
Dave Conley:There was a point where it came up that a school shooting isn't a school
Dave Conley:shooting isn't a school shooting, and we talk about it as one thing.
Dave Conley:What gets headlines are the mass shootings where, one student really just goes,
Dave Conley:crazy and just shoots, something up.
Dave Conley:And yet school shootings happen every single week.
Dave Conley:And when talking about threat assessment, these are happening
Dave Conley:from young boys, right?
Dave Conley:Like it's, we know that young boys are the ones that are doing this.
Dave Conley:And we know that it's different between urban and suburban and rural.
Dave Conley:We know there's this first episode brought it out of Oh, the people who are making
Dave Conley:the decisions are Seem to be treating it as a simple fix just add magic And
Dave Conley:yet it's more complicated than that.
Dave Conley:Don't what do you think?
Jerremy Newsome:Yep.
Jerremy Newsome:And what was nice is at one point when we were talking about the community
Jerremy Newsome:integration that I was rambling on about there just a few moments ago when
Jerremy Newsome:you talk about building relationships and creating communication systems
Jerremy Newsome:that connect everyone involved.
Jerremy Newsome:And then for our listeners to fast forward for a second to episode three
Jerremy Newsome:on school shootings where we were having a chat with the wonderful Lori and she
Jerremy Newsome:was discussing Alyssa's law, right?
Jerremy Newsome:That formation of a really simple, very easy to implement, let's call it free
Dave Conley:right?
Jerremy Newsome:of dollars a month.
Jerremy Newsome:Type of thing where it's okay, that got me excited because then you have
Jerremy Newsome:boots on the ground individuals.
Jerremy Newsome:And then someone who has already created something, a communication system, a
Jerremy Newsome:pulse system that does work and being able to combine these two rapidly where
Jerremy Newsome:you and I have also the capacity and the capability to connect Robert and Alonzo
Jerremy Newsome:and Lori and saying, all right, sweet.
Jerremy Newsome:Hey, here is.
Jerremy Newsome:Here's Alyssa's Law.
Jerremy Newsome:Here's this application that is currently up and running that
Jerremy Newsome:is in almost a dozen states.
Jerremy Newsome:And blend all of this together and going, alright, we can start chipping away.
Jerremy Newsome:Here is definitely one thing to, to your point, and Alonzo said this very
Jerremy Newsome:well, if and when this does happen again in the near future, we can at
Jerremy Newsome:least prevent anyone from being injured.
Jerremy Newsome:So if a school shooting happens.
Jerremy Newsome:In the future and no one gets injured or impacted other than the shooter.
Jerremy Newsome:That is a step in the right direction.
Jerremy Newsome:There's a step in the right direction from a standpoint,
Jerremy Newsome:especially of the mass shootings where numerous people get injured.
Jerremy Newsome:If it's a gang violence situation, it's a one V one individual.
Jerremy Newsome:That's obviously always gonna be a little bit harder to protect from a inside
Jerremy Newsome:the school situation, but ultimately.
Jerremy Newsome:I do really get excited, Dave, about the fact that we have people
Jerremy Newsome:that have implemented something.
Jerremy Newsome:We have people who are working on implementing things and who are planning,
Jerremy Newsome:and these things can start getting married and getting brought together.
Jerremy Newsome:And those ripple effects can absolutely create massive change quickly.
Dave Conley:You're spot on.
Dave Conley:It came up in number two all about community.
Dave Conley:It came up in number three community.
Dave Conley:and like parents would pay anything to keep their kids safe.
Dave Conley:That's no doubt.
Dave Conley:Where do you think the disconnect is on community?
Dave Conley:And I'm just going to throw it out there There's going to be communities
Dave Conley:where they're just struggling to get by and they're just struggling to keep
Dave Conley:food on the table and roof overheads.
Dave Conley:And so I'm going to guess that involving the community is going to
Dave Conley:be harder than a wealthy community.
Dave Conley:so where do you think the policies, where do you think the practices what do you
Dave Conley:think might work in order to engage?
Dave Conley:All communities or help communities.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:That's what got me excited also about episode two when we brought
Jerremy Newsome:the educators in and the teachers in cause that also got brought up a lot
Jerremy Newsome:as well that just the word community.
Jerremy Newsome:But to me a parent who has and had a teenager in school and a child
Jerremy Newsome:in middle school, what helped the most was just getting notice, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Having a communication with the community.
Jerremy Newsome:So crazy example.
Jerremy Newsome:This did not happen with the school that I was in, but you have all of the teachers,
Jerremy Newsome:all of the parents and all of the children on a group communication application,
Jerremy Newsome:call it a Facebook group, call it a WhatsApp group, call it a discord.
Jerremy Newsome:They didn't have that.
Jerremy Newsome:What this particular school did have, which they were very
Jerremy Newsome:good at communication, by the way, very, I truly enjoy them.
Jerremy Newsome:Every single week I would get an automated obviously updated voicemail
Jerremy Newsome:phone call ring From the principal.
Jerremy Newsome:So every week, it was like, hi, I'm I forget the principal's name off the top of
Jerremy Newsome:my head, but it's hi, I'm XYZ gentlemen.
Jerremy Newsome:And this is what we're doing this week.
Jerremy Newsome:And it was a recorded message that he would send out.
Jerremy Newsome:That was amazing.
Jerremy Newsome:And they were great with emails and the teachers would email.
Jerremy Newsome:But again, that's like a one on one that's very less, not a one to many approach.
Jerremy Newsome:So imagine if all of the parents, teachers, and children get on this
Jerremy Newsome:group, the children, if they're old enough, obviously, but they get into
Jerremy Newsome:this group application, if you're just at the teachers and the parents and
Jerremy Newsome:everyone sees what everyone's doing and we get, Planned ahead of time.
Jerremy Newsome:Hey, three months from now on Thursday from six to eight,
Jerremy Newsome:we have a mandatory XYZ.
Dave Conley:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:And they get reminders and they're told
Jerremy Newsome:and we just get scheduled.
Jerremy Newsome:And so when, again, I know this is a little bit of a challenge when
Jerremy Newsome:it comes to planning, but when the school year starts, all the parents,
Jerremy Newsome:it's mandatory that you come in
Dave Conley:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:for an hour, probably later, early in the
Jerremy Newsome:morning some time where like you have a different blocks scheduled.
Jerremy Newsome:You have a morning, you have an afternoon, you have an evening.
Jerremy Newsome:And this was, again, this was a thing that the other school did
Jerremy Newsome:that was really great is they had.
Jerremy Newsome:pretty flexible meeting times for the parents and for the teachers.
Jerremy Newsome:So you could choose all different times throughout the day because
Jerremy Newsome:everyone understands, adults work and they have interesting schedules.
Jerremy Newsome:So you have these different schedules to choose from that you can come in.
Jerremy Newsome:But again, the thing that wasn't really awesome was just a early
Jerremy Newsome:planning stage where at the very beginning of the year, all right, cool.
Jerremy Newsome:Here's the four things that we're going to do.
Jerremy Newsome:Here's the four times that we're going to do it.
Jerremy Newsome:Here's the four days.
Jerremy Newsome:It's very important for you to be here.
Jerremy Newsome:That didn't truly happen.
Jerremy Newsome:And it was like, all right, cool.
Jerremy Newsome:We're having a school cookout and it just made it a little bit more
Jerremy Newsome:challenging to move stuff around.
Jerremy Newsome:Obviously I was able to do it, but a lot of parents I talked to had
Jerremy Newsome:a little bit of a struggle there.
Dave Conley:Sure.
Dave Conley:We've already slipped into a little bit of episode two.
Dave Conley:Why don't we talk about that in specific?
Jerremy Newsome:that's nice.
Dave Conley:talking to Eric and Jennifer and Danielle.
Dave Conley:All on the front line.
Dave Conley:These are the educators.
Dave Conley:These are the ones that are working with your kids right now and Even though I
Dave Conley:have a teacher in my immediate family and I've heard the stories I had no idea.
Dave Conley:This was like, this was the biggest.
Dave Conley:Oh, wow.
Dave Conley:Oh, no.
Dave Conley:For me.
Dave Conley:Just the challenges of managing the physical and mental well being of
Dave Conley:both the students and the teachers.
Dave Conley:And that so little time, so little money.
Dave Conley:That is the biggest budget item in most states is education.
Dave Conley:And as far as I can tell, very little of it is actually getting to the
Dave Conley:students and getting to the teachers.
Dave Conley:But yeah, what do you think?
Jerremy Newsome:that is, and in future episodes for our listeners, we have some
Jerremy Newsome:amazing economists, Business owners real estate professionals come in and just
Jerremy Newsome:talk about budgeting and money and the budget Challenges of this country the
Jerremy Newsome:debt that we're facing but to that point.
Jerremy Newsome:Oh my gosh, dude, if that is not a glaring Oversight that I think
Jerremy Newsome:most parents slash most adults.
Jerremy Newsome:Yes We feel like we're getting taxed out of the face all the time Already.
Jerremy Newsome:So there's that because you got to pay, you got to pay taxes on everything.
Jerremy Newsome:You make money, got to pay taxes on it.
Jerremy Newsome:You buy something, you got to pay taxes on it.
Jerremy Newsome:You sell that thing, got to pay the taxes on it.
Jerremy Newsome:You're already taxed from the money that you get.
Jerremy Newsome:So you're paying the tax on tax dollars.
Jerremy Newsome:You own your house.
Jerremy Newsome:You got to pay like, we already feel like we're getting way overtaxed.
Jerremy Newsome:And so then people are like, or what are we getting for our taxes?
Jerremy Newsome:Where's all this money going?
Jerremy Newsome:We mentioned this in that episode, but the education budget and I'm
Jerremy Newsome:doing air quotes for my listeners was like the third largest budget
Jerremy Newsome:in the U S it's it's up there.
Jerremy Newsome:It's high.
Jerremy Newsome:However, also fun fact, they have that education budget split out
Jerremy Newsome:into seven different little sectors.
Jerremy Newsome:And then each sector is like, Oh, okay, cool.
Jerremy Newsome:Where's all that money going?
Jerremy Newsome:And none of the teachers that I've talked to, we're going to talk
Jerremy Newsome:to more for all of my listeners.
Jerremy Newsome:And if you want to be a guest on our podcast, regardless of your profession,
Jerremy Newsome:please reach out because our focus is to connect with you, the beautiful listener.
Jerremy Newsome:You have a voice, you have an opinion.
Jerremy Newsome:This podcast is very special and extremely unique because we are
Jerremy Newsome:not biased in our political views.
Jerremy Newsome:We are simply here to solve America's problems and we realize that it takes
Jerremy Newsome:awareness, it takes diversity, it takes different ideas, it takes different
Jerremy Newsome:beliefs, different backgrounds, different religions to all come
Jerremy Newsome:together and just really understand, think and know what could be a
Jerremy Newsome:awesome solution to a big problem.
Jerremy Newsome:So that being stated, where's the money going?
Jerremy Newsome:No teacher feels like they're getting enough.
Dave Conley:So
Jerremy Newsome:Most parents are aware that teachers aren't getting enough.
Jerremy Newsome:We already know they're overworked and underpaid.
Jerremy Newsome:Fix that, dude.
Dave Conley:we are in, I'll call it terminal bureaucracy.
Dave Conley:Our schools, no.
Dave Conley:Nobody believes that Particularly these teachers it is like what
Dave Conley:we're doing now is not working.
Dave Conley:Here's some realities from this and some highlights jennifer said she had a panic
Dave Conley:attack during these drills that they
Jerremy Newsome:Huh.
Dave Conley:because They the kids don't take it seriously And what are
Dave Conley:they going to do to just keep them quiet during one of these things?
Dave Conley:And so there's this theoretical safety Plan in place and protocols, but it
Dave Conley:doesn't seem to be working at all in real life Then they talked about Jennifer again
Dave Conley:was like look I got 41 students per class and I didn't even know what these words
Dave Conley:were until she described them 20 IEPs and 504 s which are these accommodations
Dave Conley:that they have to do for every single student And this is what she said.
Dave Conley:I don't really feel like I have time to teach because I'm just
Dave Conley:doing paperwork all the time.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Dave Conley:Eric revealed that multiple schools often share
Dave Conley:a single resource officer, underscoring serious security gaps.
Dave Conley:He said, we're going to be on our own, left to get as many
Dave Conley:kids inside as quickly as we can.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Wild.
Dave Conley:Come on.
Dave Conley:On, these are so glaring.
Dave Conley:this is terminal bureaucracy.
Dave Conley:we have principals, we have assistant principals, we have vice principals, we
Dave Conley:have all of this administration, all this overhead, and we have, Teachers that are
Dave Conley:struggling to just get by during the day.
Dave Conley:Oh, remember the food discussion?
Jerremy Newsome:Oh boy.
Jerremy Newsome:Oh yeah, I remember the food discussion.
Jerremy Newsome:Ha.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Here's a cool part for our listeners out there.
Jerremy Newsome:Would any one of you go to a school lunch and then snack
Jerremy Newsome:on a delicious school lunch?
Jerremy Newsome:You're laughing because we already know the answer is no.
Jerremy Newsome:I would instantly go into a carb overload.
Jerremy Newsome:Whereas to the point where if the parents aren't eating it, why would the kids?
Jerremy Newsome:if the kids don't like it and it's not healthy, I mean that's a whole other very
Jerremy Newsome:potential topic that we bring in and maybe some health discussions about America
Jerremy Newsome:being healthy because it's all going to revert back to our education system.
Jerremy Newsome:That's what I want people to understand is vast majority.
Jerremy Newsome:So when you're talking about healthcare.
Jerremy Newsome:which is really sick care when you're talking about all of us getting on
Jerremy Newsome:a global or a universal policy and everyone's paying for everything.
Jerremy Newsome:listen, America becomes much more healthy through a whole array
Jerremy Newsome:of topics, but one of them just being how do we start in school?
Jerremy Newsome:What do we actually eat in school?
Jerremy Newsome:I brought school lunches because my mom back then.
Jerremy Newsome:Knew
Dave Conley:Cause it was garbage.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah, and to her point I sold everything in the lunchbox so that I
Jerremy Newsome:could make some money and I didn't really ever eat lunch, but beyond the topic.
Jerremy Newsome:But yes the administrative overload and the amount of Money that gets poured
Jerremy Newsome:into the top line to the midline to the bottom line should absolutely be
Jerremy Newsome:looked at Because if we're going to overhaul the education system, I think
Jerremy Newsome:it should be a profitable endeavor.
Jerremy Newsome:Profitable to the point where it's not losing money in the sense that everyone
Jerremy Newsome:that's paying for it feels like they're actually getting a return on it.
Jerremy Newsome:Return being smart, healthy, vibrant, excited children
Jerremy Newsome:that are also extremely safe.
Jerremy Newsome:That would be the return and I think if any parent really truly feels like they're
Jerremy Newsome:getting that they're not going to have an Issue making that investment towards
Jerremy Newsome:the future But I think we were looking at in that episode some of the salaries for
Jerremy Newsome:superintendents and the people that are a little bit higher above the principle.
Jerremy Newsome:And it was like, I need to quit what I'm doing and become a
Jerremy Newsome:superintendent like mid strong, six figures, 300, 200, 400 K a year for
Dave Conley:We should definitely ensure that the only meals they
Dave Conley:have come from a school cafeteria.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Agreed.
Jerremy Newsome:Yep.
Jerremy Newsome:Big start.
Dave Conley:were you as surprised or shocked as I was that Phys ed
Dave Conley:and getting kids out there and like burning off some of this energy
Dave Conley:and health classes and any kind of mental, mental wellbeing out the door.
Dave Conley:So much, not even afterschool curricular activities.
Dave Conley:I remember Alonzo from the first episode saying, Hey, we don't wrestle anymore.
Dave Conley:Like we don't, we're not like, we're not burning this off.
Dave Conley:I know.
Dave Conley:I remember you talking about why aren't we having like martial
Dave Conley:arts and self defense and what's.
Dave Conley:Were you surprised?
Dave Conley:I was super shocked.
Dave Conley:It's oh, wow.
Dave Conley:What are schools doing now?
Dave Conley:If Like basic physical stuff is out the window.
Jerremy Newsome:Out the window.
Jerremy Newsome:And I think the shift.
Jerremy Newsome:Again, from arts and from music and from creation.
Jerremy Newsome:I think someone at some stage, whoever that was, or whoever the
Jerremy Newsome:policy makers were, Oh, let's just make them really smart.
Jerremy Newsome:Math, history, science, reading, and let's just shove that into their face.
Jerremy Newsome:All the time.
Jerremy Newsome:I was like here's the thing.
Jerremy Newsome:That's not how people learn.
Jerremy Newsome:you create emotion through motion, and as you move, the
Jerremy Newsome:movements create memories, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Most people's favorite memories in life is probably where
Jerremy Newsome:some emotion was beautifully involved, and that emotion likely.
Jerremy Newsome:stemmed from some level of motion.
Jerremy Newsome:So meaning to the point of our children, including the
Jerremy Newsome:adults, like how do we learn?
Jerremy Newsome:You do not learn by sitting sedentary in a chair facing one
Jerremy Newsome:individual for many hours at a time.
Jerremy Newsome:Every single day repeating the exact same context information without knowing
Jerremy Newsome:why you're being taught it without understanding what's really truly being
Jerremy Newsome:taught the premise and the depth behind it there needs to be tons and tons of
Jerremy Newsome:engagement There are some private schools that are doing this There are some charter
Jerremy Newsome:schools that are doing this but from a public school standpoint It's like we
Jerremy Newsome:need to move these kids are seven, right?
Jerremy Newsome:They need to run my three and a half year old when he's feeling
Jerremy Newsome:healthy, which is not today.
Jerremy Newsome:I can hear him crying and the listeners can't hear him that the
Jerremy Newsome:kid, he has a little bit of a fever.
Jerremy Newsome:And anyway when he's feeling healthy, the guy will run like four miles
Jerremy Newsome:a day and I'm not exaggerating.
Jerremy Newsome:Just he'll run around the house.
Jerremy Newsome:So run around the kitchen nonstop and I got to chase him and that's what he wants.
Jerremy Newsome:He wants to play tag, but that's three.
Jerremy Newsome:Or he's going to run more when he's seven, 10 and nine, we
Dave Conley:where did he learn this?
Dave Conley:Mr. Iron man.
Jerremy Newsome:I don't know.
Jerremy Newsome:I'm going to blame his mom.
Jerremy Newsome:He definitely has restless leg syndrome like I do for sure.
Jerremy Newsome:But the beauty is, man, we got to move these kids.
Jerremy Newsome:We've got like the Fizz Ed again, in my opinion, if I had a magic
Jerremy Newsome:wand and I'm waving this tomorrow.
Jerremy Newsome:We're getting these kids outside or in a gym, like as a collective group
Jerremy Newsome:doing martial arts, pushups, yoga, breathwork, breathing exercises,
Jerremy Newsome:two, three hours a day, minimum.
Dave Conley:I will tell you, my biggest learning from this episode two
Dave Conley:is this, it's garbage in, garbage out.
Dave Conley:Our kids are, under resourced all the way around.
Dave Conley:They are not getting good enough sleep.
Dave Conley:They're not moving.
Dave Conley:they're not getting any support for their mental well being.
Dave Conley:Their teachers are stressed out and overworked.
Dave Conley:the kids don't have after school programs or creative outlets.
Dave Conley:I don't think it's a stretch to say that we are causing our own problem.
Dave Conley:we are creating more and more kids that are stressed, depressed,
Dave Conley:and they're going to act out in completely unpredictable ways.
Dave Conley:Am I saying that we're creating school shooters?
Dave Conley:No.
Dave Conley:But we're not helping.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:That's a big, bold statement, man, but not helping in that, My whole goal and
Jerremy Newsome:mission is to prevent, at the same stage, when children have extreme anxiety,
Jerremy Newsome:fear and misunderstandings about who they are, their identity, where do we
Jerremy Newsome:really feel like that starts right?
Jerremy Newsome:Where do we feel like that begins?
Jerremy Newsome:It's just an awareness piece.
Jerremy Newsome:It's an awareness of who you are.
Jerremy Newsome:That's a very strong aspect as well, because individuals that are going to
Jerremy Newsome:feel the most depressed, frustrated, anxious, worried, right in certain
Jerremy Newsome:negative emotions, are those that don't have a very strong individual identity.
Jerremy Newsome:And again, just from that point, are we helping or hurting that right now
Jerremy Newsome:with some policies and some beliefs and some discussions in certain states
Jerremy Newsome:where we are letting children make too many blatantly destructive decisions?
Jerremy Newsome:Like we're letting 13 year olds and 10 year olds dictate what's being done
Jerremy Newsome:and what they feel and who they are we're listening to the imaginations
Jerremy Newsome:of teenagers that are still growing their mind that obviously see
Jerremy Newsome:things differently than adults do.
Jerremy Newsome:And so what I mean by that is, we all realize how amazing children
Jerremy Newsome:are and how creative and intelligent they are, but we can't let their
Jerremy Newsome:decisions dictate their life.
Jerremy Newsome:for example, and this is a joke, but not really.
Jerremy Newsome:This morning I was like Jason, what do you want for breakfast?
Jerremy Newsome:And he said poop.
Jerremy Newsome:He wanted poop for breakfast.
Jerremy Newsome:I was like, all right, cool.
Jerremy Newsome:Hey, three and a half.
Jerremy Newsome:The kid knows exactly what he wants for breakfast.
Jerremy Newsome:Family, we have to realize that we really have to care and understand.
Jerremy Newsome:Obviously, emotions are complex.
Jerremy Newsome:As we go through school, the school needs to be something that provides
Jerremy Newsome:so much acceleration, momentum, inspiration, courage, happiness.
Jerremy Newsome:And we're all adults.
Jerremy Newsome:So the adults have to sit down and go, How do I, as an adult, feel courage,
Jerremy Newsome:inspiration, motivation, happiness?
Jerremy Newsome:Who, with what music, doing what motions, what makes me depressed?
Jerremy Newsome:Slouching, breathing slowly, breathing shallow, slouching over,
Jerremy Newsome:pulling your shoulders down, not expressing yourself, being quiet
Jerremy Newsome:and not thinking and not breathing and not being aware and not moving.
Jerremy Newsome:Those are elements that create depression and sadness extremely often.
Jerremy Newsome:And so when you combine from the adult perspective, all of these aspects
Jerremy Newsome:that are absolutely going to create certain Emotions, negative emotions.
Jerremy Newsome:As adults, we know what creates positive emotions and we realize
Jerremy Newsome:that we need more motion in schools.
Jerremy Newsome:we're trying to medicate our children to slow them down, right?
Jerremy Newsome:We're giving them legal methamphetamines.
Jerremy Newsome:Which is Adderall.
Jerremy Newsome:Like you, I think you'd probably be extremely surprised, Dave.
Jerremy Newsome:I don't have the stat in front of me and I'm sure we can GPT it or
Jerremy Newsome:something, but the amount of children that are on Adderall is wild.
Jerremy Newsome:And it comes from this ADHD.
Jerremy Newsome:Or a d. D, dude, that is to me personally, so bizarre.
Jerremy Newsome:If there's anyone that has a DD, it's me, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Like I'm sure, but I would never label myself that way because I'm like, who?
Jerremy Newsome:Whatever.
Jerremy Newsome:I think a lot.
Jerremy Newsome:My brain's shift focus a lot.
Jerremy Newsome:I ramble a lot.
Jerremy Newsome:I get on tangents a lot.
Jerremy Newsome:I get on rabbit trails a lot.
Jerremy Newsome:Cool.
Jerremy Newsome:Figure out ways to bring it back to reality.
Jerremy Newsome:Figure out ways to pull and reign it in.
Jerremy Newsome:Without medicating me and that is just something that is just so
Jerremy Newsome:wildly bizarre man that we just automatically fix The energy and
Jerremy Newsome:exuberance of youth through medication
Dave Conley:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:wild.
Dave Conley:Oof.
Dave Conley:So I think the theme kept on coming back to simple versus complex, right?
Dave Conley:Yeah.
Dave Conley:Yeah.
Dave Conley:And, a pill is easy, it doesn't require any systemic anything, and
Dave Conley:it's like a one on one where every kid's going to benefit from a really
Dave Conley:beautiful, amazing environment.
Dave Conley:They'll thrive, right?
Dave Conley:Like as a kid that much different than a golden retriever.
Dave Conley:It's like water them, feed them, play with them.
Dave Conley:They're damn happy to see you give them an enriched environment
Dave Conley:and they're going to thrive.
Dave Conley:And the simple thing.
Dave Conley:comes out of okay, just Medicaid them.
Dave Conley:And because we're unwilling to fund or do the things that really fix this,
Dave Conley:which is to do all of those things, which is to give the rich environment
Dave Conley:to have afterschool programs to have support for kids that are in economic or
Dave Conley:distress, to have, All of that available.
Dave Conley:And at the same time, the teachers are doing everything.
Dave Conley:They are our front lines and the bureaucracy is killing them when
Dave Conley:they are our eyes and our ears.
Dave Conley:They are probably the first person sometimes.
Dave Conley:in these families to really notice that something's off with a kid.
Dave Conley:And that's going to be so much better than any behavioral profile or social
Dave Conley:media technology or anything else.
Dave Conley:It's going to be the teacher that knows the kids the best being
Dave Conley:like, oh, something's wrong.
Dave Conley:And this teacher, and this kid needs some help.
Dave Conley:Extra support somewhere.
Dave Conley:And I am just frustrated with this is going to be a future episode when we come
Dave Conley:back to this in school and school safety.
Dave Conley:I need to know where this money is actually going because I don't get it.
Dave Conley:It's like it's not going where it needs it.
Dave Conley:Here was the quote.
Dave Conley:Let me see if I can find it.
Dave Conley:The quote from the brilliant Jennifer Weathers, we don't have the money for it.
Dave Conley:Like the school doesn't have the money.
Dave Conley:The schools are always cutting budgets.
Dave Conley:Come on.
Jerremy Newsome:The word is always they are they're all like how there is zero
Jerremy Newsome:I could pick any school in the country walk up to any staff member and go.
Jerremy Newsome:Hey, do you guys You Get budget surpluses Are you getting tons of money?
Jerremy Newsome:Do you have all the money that you feel that you need that we're
Jerremy Newsome:talking public schools here?
Jerremy Newsome:Do you feel like you have tons of money?
Jerremy Newsome:Like you just have all of it and you are ready to rock and
Jerremy Newsome:roll You have so much supplies.
Jerremy Newsome:You have so much help.
Jerremy Newsome:You have so much assistance.
Jerremy Newsome:Like you got everything you need.
Jerremy Newsome:I'm absolutely not going to get strong confirmation on that
Jerremy Newsome:statement or that question, right?
Jerremy Newsome:It's just not going to happen.
Jerremy Newsome:Always getting budget cuts, dude.
Jerremy Newsome:So what you said?
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Dave Conley:So when I think about the priorities of like safety in
Dave Conley:schools and coming back to episode one, I hear about the robot dogs and
Dave Conley:the digital twins and I get it right.
Dave Conley:Like to me, that's the Adderall pill.
Dave Conley:That's Oh, if we just did that, that will solve it.
Dave Conley:And to some extent, sure, right?
Dave Conley:It might.
Dave Conley:I'm sure fewer school shootings happen at schools with metal
Dave Conley:detectors and plenty of security.
Dave Conley:I get it.
Dave Conley:That sounds great.
Dave Conley:But what came up in this episode two with the educators is, They aren't
Dave Conley:getting any of the money for the funding.
Dave Conley:So I want to spend money on technology that frees up these teachers
Dave Conley:because they are our eyes and ears.
Dave Conley:They are the ones on the front lines.
Dave Conley:if they're spending all of their time doing administrative tasks,
Dave Conley:these IEPs and 504s and all of that, then they're not teaching and
Dave Conley:they're not paying any attention.
Dave Conley:I want to put technology there.
Dave Conley:You said it yourself.
Dave Conley:you were connected to the community when you got these.
Dave Conley:automatic emails, these automatic texts, and being all, so like it, it creates some
Dave Conley:community, it creates some involvement, and that's where I'm spending money.
Jerremy Newsome:Yep.
Jerremy Newsome:Agreed.
Jerremy Newsome:No, I totally agree with you.
Jerremy Newsome:That is from a technology standpoint, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Oh, AI is going to help so many people.
Jerremy Newsome:Let's help these teachers, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Let's get them to, let's help them grade tests, shoot
Jerremy Newsome:messages out, track individuals.
Jerremy Newsome:I say track their students attendance, where, why, when, who, like we can
Jerremy Newsome:easily put in some of these systems.
Jerremy Newsome:And to your point I truly believe that we're happy to spend money there.
Jerremy Newsome:One of the things I would love to do is just find a way almost across the board
Jerremy Newsome:to pay teachers much more, but to also really understand who is in charge.
Jerremy Newsome:Why can't teachers be in control of what they're teaching?
Jerremy Newsome:Why can't we give them, Some level of, okay here's your free reign.
Jerremy Newsome:You have the class.
Jerremy Newsome:Let's allow you to understand you're going to be building this.
Jerremy Newsome:You can do this.
Jerremy Newsome:You can provide, you can instruct, you can teach.
Jerremy Newsome:And then there's obviously levels of governance and oversight, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Principals vice principals, but I'm excited to get.
Jerremy Newsome:In the future superintendents
Dave Conley:we got, yeah,
Jerremy Newsome:Ask them questions.
Jerremy Newsome:What are you doing?
Jerremy Newsome:Where is the money going?
Jerremy Newsome:Where do you get paid?
Jerremy Newsome:what do you do all day?
Jerremy Newsome:School board members, right?
Jerremy Newsome:We gotta start diving into this
Dave Conley:we have to because, like that's where the rubber meets the road.
Dave Conley:I'm just guessing that for a lot of places that there is political pressure
Dave Conley:that's put on the people who are actually making the decisions, the administrators
Dave Conley:and the school boards, right?
Dave Conley:They are elected or they have, strong special interests or they
Dave Conley:have Parents who are putting pressure there and then that top down
Dave Conley:approach filters to everybody else.
Dave Conley:What I heard with episode two in particular and somewhat with three
Dave Conley:with talking to Lori, is that we don't have a teacher centric approach and we
Dave Conley:barely have a student centric approach.
Dave Conley:So the people who are actually having to deal with this get everything
Dave Conley:put upon them And aren't being listened to as far as I can tell
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Yep.
Jerremy Newsome:They're not.
Jerremy Newsome:And I'm sure the teachers would go on strike if they could, right?
Jerremy Newsome:If they could, meaning they know going on strike already is going to
Jerremy Newsome:create massive economic concerns.
Jerremy Newsome:Kids aren't going to be able to go to school.
Jerremy Newsome:What are they going to be doing all day?
Jerremy Newsome:But also, the truth is, Dave, most teachers don't have that heart.
Jerremy Newsome:They don't have the heart for, pay me more, I want a bunch of money.
Jerremy Newsome:They really do start.
Jerremy Newsome:I would say statistic I'm making up right now.
Jerremy Newsome:85 plus percent of teachers have the heart that they want
Jerremy Newsome:to teach because they love it.
Jerremy Newsome:They get motivated and inspired by, and I'm speaking from the heart of a teacher.
Jerremy Newsome:When I teach someone something that they did not know, and I helped them
Jerremy Newsome:understand it and see it and just practice it and then begin to implement it.
Jerremy Newsome:That brings me so much joy.
Jerremy Newsome:my day and week and month becomes brighter, becomes more
Jerremy Newsome:excited, becomes more purposeful.
Jerremy Newsome:I feel more alive.
Jerremy Newsome:I feel happier on all fronts when I'm living my purpose, which is to truly
Jerremy Newsome:provide mentally liberating education.
Jerremy Newsome:So for other, go ahead.
Dave Conley:The reason that teachers are teaching you said
Dave Conley:it they're passionate about it
Dave Conley:We are getting extremely passionate people and that's amazing.
Dave Conley:And I think that's the bailing wire and tape that we have on this.
Dave Conley:And it seems like it's just on the edge of disaster or maybe
Dave Conley:it's already off the cliff.
Dave Conley:I don't know, but all I know is that the money's not getting to the right
Dave Conley:place because there's an enormous amount of money and it's going somewhere.
Dave Conley:Where is it?
Jerremy Newsome:Exactly.
Jerremy Newsome:It's going somewhere.
Jerremy Newsome:Where is it?
Jerremy Newsome:That's going to be a great topic.
Dave Conley:Yeah, go ahead.
Jerremy Newsome:if we're talking about, we've had a great discussion in general
Jerremy Newsome:over episode one, episode two, and then episode three from tragedy to action.
Jerremy Newsome:With Lori, who just had so much bravery, so much power, so much dedication to
Jerremy Newsome:saying, listen, what happened to me, let's just work on preventing this.
Jerremy Newsome:Let's work on creating structures in place so that this does not happen
Jerremy Newsome:again, turning a mess into a message.
Jerremy Newsome:And she is.
Jerremy Newsome:Doing so much advocacy work.
Jerremy Newsome:And it's really inspiring that she is creating change implementation right now.
Jerremy Newsome:She's making it happen.
Jerremy Newsome:So her losing her daughter on February 14th, Valentine's day, 2018, it
Jerremy Newsome:was very moving and she was just recounting what occurred on that
Jerremy Newsome:day and then allowing herself and allowing her strength to go, all right.
Jerremy Newsome:I lost my daughter.
Jerremy Newsome:And it was a very moving episode for us to work on,
Dave Conley:Oh, for sure.
Dave Conley:It wrapped up this series really nicely for me because what I heard was, yeah,
Dave Conley:there's absolutely technical solutions out there and they're not that expensive.
Dave Conley:In fact, Alyssa's law has a panic button and she said it, look, government
Dave Conley:offices, courtrooms, banks, like all of these places have panic buttons.
Dave Conley:Like it's ludicrous that the place that we send our kids to
Dave Conley:doesn't have a panic button.
Dave Conley:That's.
Dave Conley:bonkers.
Dave Conley:And she was like, it's as simple as loading it onto a teacher's phone.
Dave Conley:And I'm like, Oh my God, come on.
Dave Conley:It's an app,
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Dave Conley:So they're very approachable technical solution.
Dave Conley:And then it was all about community.
Dave Conley:Like she lived through this.
Dave Conley:And so they have the moss clubs, which is engaging the students.
Dave Conley:They have the community action stuff.
Dave Conley:All of those changes and Alyssa's law, that had been passed in a bunch of States.
Dave Conley:I don't know.
Dave Conley:It really brought together episode one, which had, technology and had really
Dave Conley:looking at profiling and then episode two, which is okay, we've got these.
Dave Conley:These students that are in this rough place and this teachers in this
Dave Conley:rough place and then episode three was like, okay, Hey, we hear you.
Dave Conley:Here are some things.
Dave Conley:And I'm like, Oh, okay.
Dave Conley:That sounds pretty good to me.
Dave Conley:What, like, where, what did you, what were your thoughts on it?
Jerremy Newsome:My thoughts were, I loved that she not only demonstrated swift
Jerremy Newsome:change is possible when there is political will and having the private sector do so
Jerremy Newsome:much of this lift and get a lot of this.
Jerremy Newsome:In motion, I think just brings awareness to certain people and to certain
Jerremy Newsome:political parties where it's like, all right, let's start creating some change
Jerremy Newsome:because I'm very happy that it happened.
Jerremy Newsome:Obviously, me and you are extremely excited for these changes to
Jerremy Newsome:be ratified radically quickly.
Jerremy Newsome:And although I still feel like there's gonna be tons and tons of very molasses
Jerremy Newsome:like legislation that gets passed, it will require individuals like Lori, like
Jerremy Newsome:me and you, like our listeners to step up and go, we know this is a problem.
Jerremy Newsome:Let's keep chipping away.
Jerremy Newsome:Let's keep having discussions, which we're going to have plenty
Jerremy Newsome:of future discussions because this podcast is going nowhere other than.
Jerremy Newsome:farther, faster, and deeper to learn, to create solutions, to understand
Jerremy Newsome:some of the problems more, to realize that both you and I know very little
Jerremy Newsome:about the ginormous complexities that is the machine of America, but also
Jerremy Newsome:understanding every problem written down is already halfway solved.
Jerremy Newsome:So to begin to just simply say that there are possibilities, there are shifts, there
Jerremy Newsome:are changes, and one person can create not only a difference but an impact.
Jerremy Newsome:Lori literally showed us that, Dave.
Jerremy Newsome:She literally, physically, metaphorically created true change and true impact.
Jerremy Newsome:In seven states with numerous schools adopting Alyssa's law and the app
Jerremy Newsome:that you mentioned Seems so simple.
Jerremy Newsome:So it's a quick fast solution where it's hey, This doesn't require a lot of taxes.
Jerremy Newsome:This is dozens of dollars a year for individuals.
Jerremy Newsome:This is something that should happen quickly.
Dave Conley:A hundred percent.
Dave Conley:I don't know.
Dave Conley:yeah the work that Lori's organization does is a no brainer and her story and
Dave Conley:story of Alyssa, really hit home with me I think we have these discussions
Dave Conley:about politics about, whatever the issue is, whether it's school shootings
Dave Conley:or health or debt bringing really personal impactful stories to things
Dave Conley:really moves the needle for people when you can start feeling somebody
Dave Conley:else's pain You're like, oh, okay.
Dave Conley:I get it.
Dave Conley:You don't have to show me any statistics about how weird things are but when you
Dave Conley:tell me the story about this personal tragedy it really moved the bar.
Dave Conley:she said it over and over again, which is that she is making systemic change through
Dave Conley:the tragedy of losing her daughter.
Dave Conley:I'm like, ah, I got to remember that.
Dave Conley:I think our audience needs to think about this if you want things to move
Dave Conley:then connect with somebody's heart.
Jerremy Newsome:Correct.
Jerremy Newsome:Cause that's where the change happens.
Jerremy Newsome:When we dig into the emotions, when we understand who's impacted, how
Jerremy Newsome:they're impacted, how frequently, that's the thing that surprised both
Jerremy Newsome:of us, as we looked into some of the statistics for school shootings.
Jerremy Newsome:You said a few times, the ones that most shock us obviously are the huge
Jerremy Newsome:ones, the mass shootings that are just so diabolical, but there are
Jerremy Newsome:also so many small ones that occur.
Jerremy Newsome:Where it's one, two, three people potentially gang violence or just
Jerremy Newsome:someone very upset at one other person.
Jerremy Newsome:And the fact that it happens again, not someone getting beat up.
Jerremy Newsome:like a 1975 high school film where two people just fight it out.
Jerremy Newsome:Like we probably all want to resolve our issues as a teenager.
Jerremy Newsome:Just go fight it out, dude.
Jerremy Newsome:But bringing a gun into school and solving the issue that way for
Jerremy Newsome:that particular individual is just obviously extremely ludicrous.
Jerremy Newsome:So what I see, man, is that there are changes that are being made.
Jerremy Newsome:And for our listeners, it's a topic that's going to continue to become more
Jerremy Newsome:and more large, more and more wide as we continue to just go down the issue,
Jerremy Newsome:have conversations with people, knowing that it's a problem and knowing also
Jerremy Newsome:that it is solvable and can at least be decreased dramatically, right?
Jerremy Newsome:The amount of school shootings.
Jerremy Newsome:have increased so abhorrently over the last decade that it's truly mind
Jerremy Newsome:blowing, mind altering, emotionally shifting, where you gotta go, there
Jerremy Newsome:has to be something done about this.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Dave Conley:And I know I brought it up a bunch of times,
Dave Conley:which is okay, what happened?
Dave Conley:It seemed like Columbine really kicked this off in the late nineties.
Dave Conley:And then it's just, it's been a wildfire.
Dave Conley:I'm like, okay what's going on?
Dave Conley:You like I don't know.
Dave Conley:Like I've, we haven't dug into that cause enough for me.
Dave Conley:I heard a lot of things that we can do, but it's Yeah.
Dave Conley:What happened in the nineties, man?
Dave Conley:what's going on?
Dave Conley:So I don't know.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Dave Conley:We,
Jerremy Newsome:that there needs to be more research on it, but to your point,
Jerremy Newsome:something happened and the word obviously got thrown around a bunch of social media.
Jerremy Newsome:And I think a lot of us as adults know that comparison is the thief of joy.
Jerremy Newsome:And so we know that's happening, but it's not like we're going
Jerremy Newsome:to get rid of social media.
Jerremy Newsome:It's not like we're going to get rid of phones.
Jerremy Newsome:That's not going to happen.
Jerremy Newsome:But is there a way to work out those discussions, work out those
Jerremy Newsome:conversations, let children know that it's okay to have conversations your
Jerremy Newsome:peers, about how they're feeling or why they're posting or why they said
Jerremy Newsome:this, and just be more open about it.
Jerremy Newsome:And just, again, to your point, have conversations, have communication
Jerremy Newsome:and let that healing take place.
Jerremy Newsome:Let teachers, counselors, guidance, counselors.
Jerremy Newsome:Individuals that have the skills to just sit down and moderate some of this inside
Jerremy Newsome:of schools to allow healing to occur.
Jerremy Newsome:But yes, there has been and was some megalithic shift that occurred in the U.
Jerremy Newsome:S. specifically.
Dave Conley:Like the rest of the world has the internet and they
Dave Conley:didn't have an uptick and all of this.
Dave Conley:so I don't know.
Dave Conley:there's something in there, like maybe it's a little bit of a lot of things.
Dave Conley:Maybe it's,
Jerremy Newsome:yeah,
Dave Conley:in our food.
Jerremy Newsome:But it's something.
Dave Conley:it's any one thing I'm not going to say it's the internet.
Dave Conley:I'm not going to say it's social media.
Dave Conley:I'm not going to say it's any of this, but it might be a lot of different things.
Dave Conley:It's like something happened.
Dave Conley:I, at least in the research, it didn't seem again, guns weren't
Dave Conley:the thing or the accessibility of guns, because actually that's been
Dave Conley:about the same all these years.
Dave Conley:So I was like, man, what happened at Columbine?
Dave Conley:I'm like, when I was growing up a million years ago, it's like
Dave Conley:they blamed music on everything.
Dave Conley:It's like listening To rap music, which was really launching in the late
Dave Conley:80s and early 90s, actually it was Tipper Gore, Al Gore's wife, who really
Dave Conley:spearheaded this whole thing about putting warning labels on all the albums
Dave Conley:and the cassettes CDs, and at least for me and my friends, that marked the
Dave Conley:albums that we wanted to listen to.
Dave Conley:It's Oh, good.
Dave Conley:It's got a sticker on it.
Dave Conley:Let's go.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:The parental advisory sticker.
Dave Conley:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Quick fact check though, Dave it was 2 million
Jerremy Newsome:years ago that you were in school.
Dave Conley:2 million years ago.
Jerremy Newsome:That's the birth of, I would probably just say more
Jerremy Newsome:freedom of speech as well, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Where you are allowed to say whatever you want as an artist and you can
Jerremy Newsome:create that and you can publish that.
Jerremy Newsome:And the more grotesque it is to your point, the more it
Jerremy Newsome:probably attracts the youth and.
Jerremy Newsome:There's also all the people that did listen to NWA and Eminem
Jerremy Newsome:and Marilyn Manson that like
Dave Conley:best
Jerremy Newsome:Korn and Slipknot that did not do anything negative as well.
Dave Conley:right.
Jerremy Newsome:Percent of all those listeners.
Jerremy Newsome:It's a very interesting piece.
Jerremy Newsome:And I think the fun topic also in future episodes really just will be
Jerremy Newsome:that mental health awareness, right?
Jerremy Newsome:if we can find maybe a profiler for the FBI and say the individual that
Jerremy Newsome:undergoes and performs as a mass school shooting, what did happen to them?
Jerremy Newsome:And how do we prevent it?
Jerremy Newsome:How do we lessen the likelihood that happens to a child, whatever it is?
Jerremy Newsome:And that is, I think, probably going to be a very strong root concern and root
Jerremy Newsome:cause for how we do make proper shifts and proper impact so that this doesn't occur.
Dave Conley:one key thing, what I didn't know before this that I know now that
Dave Conley:came up in all episodes was community.
Dave Conley:And if we're looking at a root cause.
Dave Conley:There is something about community, like we are probably more connected
Dave Conley:than we ever have been in humanity and yet we're feeling more alone.
Dave Conley:We see that actually in other areas and this came up in
Dave Conley:episodes 1, which is community.
Dave Conley:Things get better with community.
Jerremy Newsome:Huh.
Dave Conley:future I definitely want to understand like where the money's
Dave Conley:going and all that other stuff.
Dave Conley:There, That's great.
Dave Conley:And there's a rich chocolatey center at the middle of this which is
Dave Conley:something to do about community.
Dave Conley:That seems to be, the lack of community or, pretending we have community when we
Dave Conley:don't, or something's been lost there.
Jerremy Newsome:Yep.
Jerremy Newsome:And I think probably a very valid argument would be.
Jerremy Newsome:Parents got to work more dog.
Jerremy Newsome:Like we've got to work two jobs to pay for things.
Jerremy Newsome:The carton of eggs over here where I live, no joke is 11 and 68 cents before taxes.
Dave Conley:It's a dollar a piece.
Jerremy Newsome:A dollar an egg dog.
Jerremy Newsome:When I was
Dave Conley:Oof.
Jerremy Newsome:I sold a carton of eggs for a dollar.
Jerremy Newsome:That's the exact opposite.
Jerremy Newsome:So that's the thing is like the parents got to work so much.
Jerremy Newsome:It's really hard for us to get away.
Jerremy Newsome:It's hard for us to create the community.
Jerremy Newsome:It's a challenge for us to actually break away from the.
Jerremy Newsome:day to day grind to actually be there and to spend time as a community.
Jerremy Newsome:And so that's obviously the challenge too.
Jerremy Newsome:So to that point, I think also that solution lies in education reform
Jerremy Newsome:because all parents were once children.
Jerremy Newsome:Fun fact, biology, hashtag science.
Jerremy Newsome:And when we understand that.
Jerremy Newsome:We go, yep, we were all once kids and we now know what we learned in school.
Jerremy Newsome:If schools begin to also just simply discuss financial literacy every
Jerremy Newsome:day, there can be a wealth and a prosperity shift in this country
Jerremy Newsome:where people are investing more.
Jerremy Newsome:They are spending a little bit less, or at least they understand how to spend less.
Jerremy Newsome:They understand how to create surplus.
Jerremy Newsome:They understand the assets and liabilities.
Jerremy Newsome:They know how to invest in and what to invest in.
Jerremy Newsome:They understand that mindset.
Jerremy Newsome:They understand the entrepreneurial mindset.
Jerremy Newsome:They understand different saving vehicles and different retirement
Jerremy Newsome:vehicles and how early one can start.
Jerremy Newsome:Oh my gosh.
Jerremy Newsome:Just knowing some of those components, knowing how the stock
Jerremy Newsome:market works, knowing how to make Wise or wiser investments
Jerremy Newsome:decisions that are more beautiful for the longevity of a portfolio.
Jerremy Newsome:Those are things that can be discussed.
Jerremy Newsome:And again, even if the teachers specifically do not know themselves,
Jerremy Newsome:which I think is really oftentimes the case, that's where I do believe that
Jerremy Newsome:a lot of the education reform is going to come down to having a one to many
Jerremy Newsome:approach where what was That one really popular workout that took everyone by
Jerremy Newsome:storm, like in the early 2000s that you would put on a DVD and people
Jerremy Newsome:would work out Yeah, let's say P90X.
Jerremy Newsome:Sure.
Jerremy Newsome:So let's say an example of every gym, every school in the country
Jerremy Newsome:has to play P90X or their version, and everyone's working out
Jerremy Newsome:simultaneously for a good hour.
Jerremy Newsome:And again, you adapt that level of intricacy and that level of
Jerremy Newsome:education to also potentially science or history and financial literacy.
Jerremy Newsome:The reason I was making that example is you can have a one to many
Jerremy Newsome:approach versus one teacher to 30 kids or 40 kids where they feel
Jerremy Newsome:overwhelmed and they feel worried.
Jerremy Newsome:Now you have the best of the best.
Jerremy Newsome:Someone teaching speaking voice lessons, piano lessons, body language.
Jerremy Newsome:financial literacy, history, science, Bill Nye, the science guy, right?
Jerremy Newsome:You create this.
Jerremy Newsome:This is one of the best teachers on earth teaching about this particular subject.
Jerremy Newsome:They teach that particular subject.
Jerremy Newsome:The teachers are there learning with the kids.
Jerremy Newsome:They're there understanding and helping and being a guidance and being a control.
Jerremy Newsome:And after the taping or the giant class exercises over, then they all
Jerremy Newsome:come together and have conversations about what went right, what was cool,
Jerremy Newsome:what was unique, what stood out.
Jerremy Newsome:What I'm saying is there are shifts that can easily be made where you put the best
Jerremy Newsome:of the best in front of our children.
Jerremy Newsome:We allow our teachers to do an incredible job, to have more space, to
Jerremy Newsome:have more flexibility, to have time to think, to plan to create, to schedule.
Jerremy Newsome:And when you make these prioritizations.
Jerremy Newsome:That also does allow the community to become more involved because if the
Jerremy Newsome:teachers are able to plan more and give a lot more notice to parents and
Jerremy Newsome:really plan and dictate and create and prioritize, that's how that community
Jerremy Newsome:can easily become more involved, especially in communities that presently
Jerremy Newsome:don't have much of an involvement.
Dave Conley:I love that.
Dave Conley:let me also I'm sure we've had people who've listened to the series and
Dave Conley:they might be freaked out, they might be inspired, whatever it is.
Dave Conley:Based on what we learned, as we sat through all of these with amazing people,
Dave Conley:What are steps that our audience can take today, or this week, or this month,
Dave Conley:or this year, that you think will move the bar for safety in school shootings?
Jerremy Newsome:I think one of the big steps is get on
Jerremy Newsome:podcasts and talk about it.
Jerremy Newsome:The mainstream media, mainstream news I heard a statistic last night.
Jerremy Newsome:the average news station has a hundred thousand views weekly, which is small.
Jerremy Newsome:the people that are now being viewed the most are influencers, social
Jerremy Newsome:media influencers, podcasters, people with voices, people that
Jerremy Newsome:spend time to do the research.
Jerremy Newsome:As parents, as teachers, as community members, go get on those shows.
Jerremy Newsome:Get on this show right here, Solving America's Problems.
Jerremy Newsome:Come on and voice your ideas, your beliefs, what you believe the changes that
Jerremy Newsome:could or should easily be implemented.
Jerremy Newsome:Bring those to people that are making waves in the solution arena.
Jerremy Newsome:Also, I would think that the best thing you can do is have, Parents have
Jerremy Newsome:conversations with these teachers.
Jerremy Newsome:maybe call them on the phone, maybe schedule a sit down where you can
Jerremy Newsome:come in, be a part of the classroom for, I don't know, 17 minutes.
Jerremy Newsome:Come in early one day on your day off, spend time to really care and see
Jerremy Newsome:the struggles of the teachers, talk to them, have conversations, because
Jerremy Newsome:the conversations are what's missing.
Jerremy Newsome:The conversations between parents.
Jerremy Newsome:And the teachers, parents, and the school staff, parents, and the
Jerremy Newsome:school administration, but parents and the kids, and the teachers,
Jerremy Newsome:kids, and the school administration.
Jerremy Newsome:These are conversations that are lacking
Dave Conley:I that's the number one for me.
Dave Conley:If somebody is passionate about this topic and school safety, go talk to
Dave Conley:your kids teachers and just ask them.
Dave Conley:Hey, how do you feel about this?
Dave Conley:What do you think needs to be done?
Dave Conley:What would make this easier for you?
Dave Conley:And just listen to them.
Dave Conley:And then that will develop the action plan because I know that it's
Dave Conley:going to be different from school to school from urban, suburban or rural.
Dave Conley:I know it's going to be different from state to state and community to community.
Dave Conley:And so when you start getting curious, like me that's the moment
Dave Conley:where action leads to change.
Jerremy Newsome:yeah, absolutely.
Jerremy Newsome:And to that point, if you are a listener, thank you so much.
Jerremy Newsome:If you've worked in policy or advocacy.
Jerremy Newsome:Come tell us what barriers you have faced from getting some of these solutions
Jerremy Newsome:that we've mentioned implemented.
Jerremy Newsome:we want to hear from you, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Hop on this podcast.
Jerremy Newsome:Let us use our skill sets and our technologies and our
Jerremy Newsome:networks to just come together.
Jerremy Newsome:And again, start building a really beautiful, cohesive platform over
Jerremy Newsome:the next three to seven years, as we continue to build and go forward
Jerremy Newsome:to just really understand see and feel what we truly can do because
Jerremy Newsome:we're not done solving problems.
Jerremy Newsome:There's going to be all of
Dave Conley:ever?
Jerremy Newsome:We're never going to be done.
Jerremy Newsome:There's always going to be problems.
Jerremy Newsome:There's always going to be challenges, but here's the beautiful part.
Jerremy Newsome:if you are a praying type and you ask God for strength, God
Jerremy Newsome:doesn't give you more strength.
Jerremy Newsome:It gives you bigger rocks to push challenges to overcome hurdles to climb
Jerremy Newsome:over so that you can become Stronger on your own the beautiful part of
Jerremy Newsome:all this is As we have challenges, we just simply have to sit down and
Jerremy Newsome:go, we know that there's problems.
Jerremy Newsome:We know that there are solutions.
Jerremy Newsome:Let's begin to tackle them.
Jerremy Newsome:Let's begin to chip away at them.
Jerremy Newsome:And I truly believe in my heart of hearts, the core change that will
Jerremy Newsome:alleviate so many of the burdens of this country is education.
Jerremy Newsome:And as you unravel, tweak, adjust, grow and expand the version of how we can
Jerremy Newsome:impact our Children closer and more.
Jerremy Newsome:We want to really focus on what we can do going forward.
Jerremy Newsome:So speaking of one of those, as I briefly mentioned in this episode, we
Jerremy Newsome:got some big things to talk about next.
Jerremy Newsome:One of them being This giant deficit that we're in, right?
Jerremy Newsome:The financial consequences of the country.
Jerremy Newsome:That's something that's not going to go away.
Jerremy Newsome:We really need to focus on that.
Jerremy Newsome:So we are diving next into college, going again into education and talking about,
Jerremy Newsome:all right, as part of this giant national looming debt that we're in, none of you.
Jerremy Newsome:Are prepared or ready for how much of that debt is being burdened
Jerremy Newsome:by people going to college.
Jerremy Newsome:So it's going to challenge us in ways that Dave and I did not expect.
Jerremy Newsome:Every single one of you are going to get absolutely just thrashed by what
Jerremy Newsome:you think is going on in colleges.
Jerremy Newsome:We have so much discussion on that topic.
Jerremy Newsome:After the kids are in school, where do they go?
Jerremy Newsome:Next is college still worth it so much discussions and topics on that day of
Jerremy Newsome:our listeners are going to be pumped
Dave Conley:thank you all for listening to this wrap up episode of Solving
Dave Conley:America's Problems with your co hosts, Dave and Jeremy, and we're looking
Dave Conley:forward to seeing you next time.
Jerremy Newsome:Yep.
Jerremy Newsome:See you family
