Parkland Mom Fights Back: Real School Safety Fixes (Full)
Every 48 hours, another American school faces a shooting threat. Lori Alhadeff buried her 14-year-old daughter Alyssa after Parkland—then refused to let it happen again. Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley go deep with Lori on silent panic buttons, rapid-response training, and why funding actually matters. No politics, no excuses—just what works when seconds count and kids’ lives are on the line.
Timestamps:
- (00:00) School shootings – the stat nobody wants to hear
- (03:09) Lori’s story – losing Alyssa at Parkland
- (05:37) Founding Make Our Schools Safe
- (07:17) Alyssa’s Law – silent panic alarms that save lives
- (09:57) Real challenges schools still face
- (14:01) How Alyssa’s Law actually gets passed and installed
- (18:19) Community involvement and spotting mental health red flags
- (31:58) Tech that cuts response time
- (36:21) Final push – what parents and students can demand right now
- (38:40) What we walked away knowing
Connect:
- Make Our Schools Safe – https://makeourschoolssafe.org
- Lori Alhadeff on X – https://twitter.com/LoriAlhadeff
Transcript
Another full, uncut show from this year
Sarah:-- Alex: Welcome to Solving America’s Problems…
Sarah:A Parkland mom who buried her 14-year-old daughter after the 2018 shooting
Sarah:just forced an entire county—one of the biggest in America—to roll out
Sarah:metal detectors in every single high school in a matter of months, even
Sarah:when the plan was only a tiny pilot.
Sarah:She then looked at the panic buttons that already exist in every bank and
Sarah:most government buildings and made seven states put the exact same tech
Sarah:in schools—so a teacher can silently scream for help and cops get live eyes
Sarah:on cameras before they even roll up.
Sarah:Tonight Jerremy and Dave sit down with Lori Alhadeff, the woman who turned
Sarah:unthinkable loss into legislation that’s already moving state by
Sarah:state, and she’s nowhere near done.
Jerremy Newsome:Dave, what are we addressing and solving today?
Dave Conley:In this episode of solving America's problems, we're
Dave Conley:confronting one of our nation's most heartbreaking challenges.
Dave Conley:School shootings with someone who's transformed personal tragedy
Dave Conley:into national movement for change.
Dave Conley:We're joined by Lori Aldehoff, a co founder of Make Our Schools Safe and a
Dave Conley:powerful voice of school safety reform.
Dave Conley:After losing her daughter, Alyssa, in the Parkland shooting, Lori
Dave Conley:channeled her grief into action, successfully championing Alyssa's Law
Dave Conley:across multiple states and creating a model for safer schools nationwide.
Dave Conley:Today, she'll share practical, proven solutions.
Dave Conley:That are already saving lives and that's this week on solving America's problems,
Dave Conley:school shootings with Laurie Aldaef.
Jerremy Newsome:Every two days in America, another school
Jerremy Newsome:shooting shatters a community.
Jerremy Newsome:In just the past five years, over 1200 school shootings have left more than
Jerremy Newsome:a thousand people wounded or killed.
Jerremy Newsome:Behind each of these statistics is a story and a family that has forever changed.
Jerremy Newsome:Our guest today knows this reality all too well.
Jerremy Newsome:Lori Alhadeff was a K through 12 teacher and soccer mom to three
Jerremy Newsome:children until February 14, 2018.
Jerremy Newsome:When her 14 year old daughter, Alyssa was killed in the Parkland shooting.
Jerremy Newsome:At Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
Jerremy Newsome:in the face of unimaginable loss, Laurie chose action.
Jerremy Newsome:She co founded make our schools safe, a national nonprofit dedicated to
Jerremy Newsome:protecting students and teachers.
Jerremy Newsome:She has successfully championed Alyssa's law requiring panic alarms in schools.
Jerremy Newsome:Which is now passed in seven states.
Jerremy Newsome:She also serves on the school board of the Broward County, fighting to ensure
Jerremy Newsome:no other parent experiences her pain.
Jerremy Newsome:Lori before we dive into solutions Could you share what inspired you
Jerremy Newsome:to create Make Our Schools Safe, and what's the organization's core mission?
Lori Alhadeff:So first of all, thank you so much for having me here today.
Lori Alhadeff:So my story begins on February 14th, 2018.
Lori Alhadeff:It was Valentine's Day, day that was supposed to be filled
Lori Alhadeff:with chocolate and love.
Lori Alhadeff:And I drove my daughter, Alyssa, to Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
Lori Alhadeff:I dropped Alyssa off at school.
Lori Alhadeff:She was wearing a black and white dress.
Lori Alhadeff:She was just so beautiful.
Lori Alhadeff:I told Alyssa that I loved her.
Lori Alhadeff:And sadly, that would be the last time that I would see Alyssa alive.
Lori Alhadeff:Later that day, I got a text message saying, shots fired at
Lori Alhadeff:Stoneman Douglas High School, kids running and jumping the fence.
Lori Alhadeff:And I immediately had this sense of loss that came over my body.
Lori Alhadeff:And I knew something was drastically wrong.
Lori Alhadeff:I drove my car as fast as I could to Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
Lori Alhadeff:And there were so many people around, nobody really knew what was going on.
Lori Alhadeff:And I found out from Abby, Alyssa's best friend, that Alyssa was shot
Lori Alhadeff:and I fell down and I blocked that moment out in my life for months.
Lori Alhadeff:That most horrific moment in my life that I find out that my daughter
Lori Alhadeff:was shot, but I still had hope.
Lori Alhadeff:I thought Alyssa was still alive.
Lori Alhadeff:And I went with a police officer to the hospital, tried to find Alyssa.
Lori Alhadeff:As a mother, you give birth to your child, you raise your child, and the
Lori Alhadeff:worst possible thing in the world is that your child is killed, murdered.
Lori Alhadeff:And my daughter, Alyssa, was murdered in her English classroom.
Lori Alhadeff:Alyssa was in the direct line of fire for the shooter shot
Lori Alhadeff:into her room, raided Alyssa.
Lori Alhadeff:Alyssa was still alive and she ran to the back of the classroom
Lori Alhadeff:and he went down the hallway.
Lori Alhadeff:He came back and shot again and killed Alyssa and two other
Lori Alhadeff:students in her classroom.
Lori Alhadeff:Later, after the trials were over this year, I went into Alyssa's
Lori Alhadeff:classroom and it was horrific.
Lori Alhadeff:Blood was still on the floor.
Lori Alhadeff:The glass was still on the floor.
Lori Alhadeff:And I could see exactly where my daughter was murdered.
Lori Alhadeff:She wasn't able to make it behind the teacher's desk that
Lori Alhadeff:possibly could have saved her.
Lori Alhadeff:And so after this tragedy, my husband and I started make our school safe
Lori Alhadeff:and make our school safe is focused on protecting kids in schools.
Lori Alhadeff:It's, a fundamental thing that our kids go to school.
Lori Alhadeff:And as parents, we pack our kids lunches, we make sure they do their homework, and
Lori Alhadeff:we send them off to school thinking that it's the safest place for them to be.
Lori Alhadeff:But unfortunately, that's where my daughter and 16 others were murdered.
Jerremy Newsome:And I, just first and foremost, the ability for you to go, we're
Jerremy Newsome:not going to let this dictate the rest of our lives and live in a place where
Jerremy Newsome:we have no choice, we have no voice, we have no say, so we have no power.
Jerremy Newsome:Thank you for your time.
Jerremy Newsome:Thank you for doing just that, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Working on making other schools safe because you are not only a
Jerremy Newsome:former teacher, but you're also now a current school board member.
Jerremy Newsome:So from that perspective, and as the portion of this real, The
Jerremy Newsome:mission of this podcast is actually solving America's problems.
Jerremy Newsome:And I think media would both agree that this is one of the most ostentatious,
Jerremy Newsome:outrageous problems that very few people are actually talking about openly often.
Jerremy Newsome:And there are probably some very tangible solutions that
Jerremy Newsome:you will also have awareness of.
Jerremy Newsome:It's going to be very, probably easier to implement than many people think.
Jerremy Newsome:I'm very excited for our listeners to hear.
Jerremy Newsome:What those are.
Jerremy Newsome:So I'll circle back to my main question for you, which will be you being
Jerremy Newsome:right now, right on that school board.
Jerremy Newsome:What are some of the things that you know, that are being implemented into
Jerremy Newsome:schools that are making them more safe?
Lori Alhadeff:So after the shooting in 2018, I know I knew that in order for
Lori Alhadeff:me to make an impact and make change that I need to have a seat at the table.
Lori Alhadeff:So I ran for the school board and I won and I've been on the school
Lori Alhadeff:board for the last seven years.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah, you did.
Jerremy Newsome:Good job, Lori.
Lori Alhadeff:currently I'm the chair of the school board.
Lori Alhadeff:I've been the chair for the last two years.
Lori Alhadeff:And so this is me going on my seventh year as a school board member.
Lori Alhadeff:And so I think the best way to look at it is you need to look at as creating
Lori Alhadeff:layers of school safety protection.
Lori Alhadeff:And the most basic layer is locking classroom doors, making sure
Lori Alhadeff:that classroom door is locked.
Lori Alhadeff:And we are still not learning from this because we just had a school
Lori Alhadeff:shooting and the door was unlocked.
Lori Alhadeff:So it really Upsets me that here we are in 2024.
Lori Alhadeff:We've had so many school shootings and we still have schools around the country
Lori Alhadeff:that are not learning from the mistakes that were made and our school shooting.
Lori Alhadeff:So fundamentally those basic layers of protection, like single point
Lori Alhadeff:of entry, fencing, locking all the doors so nobody can just get in don't
Lori Alhadeff:prop open the door with a pencil.
Lori Alhadeff:You have that human error and you want to make sure that doors are being locked.
Lori Alhadeff:So here in Florida, I believe that we have implemented a plethora of school safety
Lori Alhadeff:bills in the last six and a half years.
Lori Alhadeff:Where we have created the those layers like behavioral threat assessments, if
Lori Alhadeff:there is someone that says they're going to shoot up a school, they do a behavioral
Lori Alhadeff:threat assessment on that student to deem where that school that child is
Lori Alhadeff:a low, medium or high level threat.
Lori Alhadeff:And then based on.
Lori Alhadeff:There's a safety plan for that student, so that student will lose
Lori Alhadeff:the ability to bring a backpack to school or their backpack is going
Lori Alhadeff:to need to be checked every day.
Lori Alhadeff:So there's a lot that we have done.
Lori Alhadeff:We still obviously need to improve.
Lori Alhadeff:And the one thing I would to just say is that safety It's so vitally
Lori Alhadeff:important that there's training, so that there's not human error.
Lori Alhadeff:And in an emergency situation, the body goes into fight or flight.
Lori Alhadeff:So we then fall back on our training.
Lori Alhadeff:So that is why it's so vitally important that our schools are training and what
Lori Alhadeff:to do in these emergency situations.
Dave Conley:We we, this is our third interview on school
Dave Conley:safety and school shootings.
Dave Conley:And we spoke first to people who have companies on threat
Dave Conley:assessment and technology.
Dave Conley:My, my feeling on it, on the, on one side of it, after we talked to them
Dave Conley:was, wow, that sounds really expensive.
Dave Conley:And then we spoke to teachers.
Dave Conley:And they're, and one of them was in panic mode because she realized
Dave Conley:that she hadn't been trained, that she didn't know what the threat was.
Dave Conley:The what the protocols were and she was going to be going the next day to speak
Dave Conley:to her administration and to her school board saying, Hey, What's the deal here?
Dave Conley:So I, as being a mother, as being a former teacher, as being a part of the
Dave Conley:school board, where do the friction points show up for you for funding, for
Dave Conley:making sure that this is a priority, making sure that students understand
Dave Conley:where are the parts where either parents can help or listeners can help you
Dave Conley:make sure that our school stays safe.
Lori Alhadeff:So Broward County Public Schools, we're the sixth
Lori Alhadeff:largest school district in the country.
Lori Alhadeff:So funding is obviously going to be a really difficult part.
Lori Alhadeff:And we want to make sure that if we're going to implement, so for
Lori Alhadeff:example, this year we implemented metal detectors in all of our high schools.
Lori Alhadeff:I was actually the school board member that made the motion
Lori Alhadeff:because they want to pilot.
Lori Alhadeff:Putting the metal detectors in three to four schools.
Lori Alhadeff:And I was like, hold on guys.
Lori Alhadeff:If we're going to do that, we should do it for all of our high schools because
Lori Alhadeff:every school is just as important.
Lori Alhadeff:Every student is just vitally important.
Lori Alhadeff:And we want to make sure that they're all safe.
Lori Alhadeff:And guess what?
Lori Alhadeff:They got it done.
Lori Alhadeff:And we got the funding, we, and we implemented the metal detectors.
Lori Alhadeff:The first day was a little rough, but after that we, we figured it out
Lori Alhadeff:and everyone's trained, the students know what to do and we've prevented
Lori Alhadeff:things from getting into our schools.
Lori Alhadeff:One thing I would say is that yes, funding is an issue, but there's
Lori Alhadeff:resources out there like schoolsafety.
Lori Alhadeff:gov. Matthew McConaughey.
Lori Alhadeff:He has an amazing site where schools can apply for grants.
Lori Alhadeff:They'll help them apply for grants.
Lori Alhadeff:And then there's nonprofit organizations like Make Our Schools Safe.
Lori Alhadeff:We've given back over 400, 000 to schools to implement layers of safety protection.
Lori Alhadeff:So as parents, I think that if you see a vulnerability and that's the other part.
Lori Alhadeff:Just a circle back to one of those layers.
Lori Alhadeff:That risk assessment for the school is so vitally important that a safety
Lori Alhadeff:expert person they do a risk assessment for their school so they know what
Lori Alhadeff:those vulnerabilities are and then they know what to what they need to fix.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:That's congrats by the way, again, for pushing that to
Jerremy Newsome:get that's happened so quick.
Jerremy Newsome:What was the timeline on that from the.
Jerremy Newsome:You really making that request known to the installation of all metal detectors.
Lori Alhadeff:It was only like a few months.
Lori Alhadeff:We did it over the summer, the school board passed it, and then the start
Lori Alhadeff:of this school year they they did it at three schools over the summer
Lori Alhadeff:to pilot it, to work out, any of the kinks, to get messaging in place.
Lori Alhadeff:And then the day one of this school year, we implemented the metal
Lori Alhadeff:detectors in all of our high schools.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Awesome and who runs and operates those metal detectors?
Jerremy Newsome:Is it the the security guards there?
Lori Alhadeff:Yeah, so we have a security team that will help
Lori Alhadeff:to run the metal detectors.
Lori Alhadeff:There's also teachers that will be there and everyone is trained so they know
Lori Alhadeff:what to do and then the process and it flows and they've prevented vapes from
Lori Alhadeff:getting in, we have a big vaping problem in our high schools and it acts as a
Lori Alhadeff:deterrent and, at the end of the day.
Lori Alhadeff:We have to do everything possible to prevent guns from
Lori Alhadeff:getting into our schools.
Jerremy Newsome:Yes, 100 percent agree.
Jerremy Newsome:Absolutely.
Jerremy Newsome:So in addition to that which again, that is a direct impact And also again
Jerremy Newsome:to your point helpful and just keeping out Probably some of the ancillary
Jerremy Newsome:things we'd also want in schools vaping pens Maybe marijuana pens and
Jerremy Newsome:all the things of that nature But if you could make one change overnight
Jerremy Newsome:to improve school safety, no questions asked What would it be ultimately
Lori Alhadeff:So I would want to pass Alyssa's law nationwide.
Lori Alhadeff:I believe that every school needs to have their panic button so that if in
Lori Alhadeff:a life threatening emergency situation, whether it's a medical emergency, which
Lori Alhadeff:we have 99 percent of the time in our schools, or an active shooter situation,
Lori Alhadeff:every teacher should have their panic button like we have in our banks.
Lori Alhadeff:And they should be able to press that.
Lori Alhadeff:It's directly linked to law enforcement, mass notification in this life threatening
Lori Alhadeff:emergency situation, and we can get help on the scene as quickly as possible.
Lori Alhadeff:They could pull up the cameras in the schools, get eyes on the
Lori Alhadeff:scene, better direct their school resource officer where to go.
Lori Alhadeff:And what to do and get help there.
Lori Alhadeff:On February 14th, I texted my daughter, Alyssa.
Lori Alhadeff:I told Alyssa to run and hide that help was on the way, but unfortunately
Lori Alhadeff:help didn't not get there fast enough.
Lori Alhadeff:So
Jerremy Newsome:having that law?
Jerremy Newsome:having The implementation of that to me It does seem so easy, right?
Jerremy Newsome:It's essentially You To your point, an app on the phone that all teachers
Jerremy Newsome:should or could have access to.
Jerremy Newsome:What do you feel like is the barrier that's holding us back from just
Jerremy Newsome:making that implementation happen?
Lori Alhadeff:we passed Alyssa's law now in seven States, New
Lori Alhadeff:Jersey, New York, Texas, Tennessee, Utah, Oklahoma, and Florida.
Lori Alhadeff:And we're working to pass Alyssa's law in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
Lori Alhadeff:By hopefully the end of this year and more and more states are getting on
Lori Alhadeff:board with implementing Alyssa's law, passing it as a law in their state.
Lori Alhadeff:And then obviously the funding is the barrier.
Lori Alhadeff:How are we going to fund this?
Lori Alhadeff:And state budgets are huge and it can be an app on the teacher's
Lori Alhadeff:phone, an app on their computer.
Lori Alhadeff:It could be a wearable panic button.
Lori Alhadeff:Like they had an Appalachian shooting.
Lori Alhadeff:They had that wearable panic button.
Lori Alhadeff:And at the end of the day, we have to set up priorities.
Lori Alhadeff:Every bank has a panic button where governmental offices, elected
Lori Alhadeff:officials, they all have a panic button.
Lori Alhadeff:So why are we not protecting our kids and our schools?
Jerremy Newsome:I know Lori.
Jerremy Newsome:Like, why?
Jerremy Newsome:That's what we need to figure out.
Jerremy Newsome:Why?
Lori Alhadeff:And we need to evolve faster because unfortunately when AR
Lori Alhadeff:15s get into our schools and they start shooting, those bullets are coming
Lori Alhadeff:out so quickly and we have to have a good guy with a gun go in and take
Lori Alhadeff:down the threat as quickly as possible to mitigate risk and loss of life.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Again,
Lori Alhadeff:and
Jerremy Newsome:I was gonna say, just congrats on having
Jerremy Newsome:it passed in seven states.
Jerremy Newsome:Thank you for listening to those.
Jerremy Newsome:And that's, again, an exciting implementation of not only
Jerremy Newsome:legacy, but actual change.
Jerremy Newsome:Seeing it really take place now in huge states, such as New York and Florida.
Jerremy Newsome:I think that's awesome.
Jerremy Newsome:What has the feedback been from the schools that have
Jerremy Newsome:implemented these systems?
Lori Alhadeff:so they feel safer and I think it's important
Lori Alhadeff:as, we are terrifying our kids.
Lori Alhadeff:It's they're the lockdown generation and we need to make sure that they feel safe.
Lori Alhadeff:And they know that if their teacher has their panic button that if they need to
Lori Alhadeff:get help, they're going to get help there as quickly as possible to save them.
Lori Alhadeff:And that's so vitally important because our kids need to not
Lori Alhadeff:only feel physically be safe.
Lori Alhadeff:Mentally, they need to be safe and know that help can get there to protect
Lori Alhadeff:them as quickly as possible because their teacher has their panic button.
Jerremy Newsome:Yep.
Jerremy Newsome:You use the word mental and so I'll pivot for a moment because
Jerremy Newsome:you said mental safety and that is definitely a peace of mind, right?
Jerremy Newsome:That's a calmness.
Jerremy Newsome:That's an awareness piece.
Jerremy Newsome:But you've also heard this a thousand times, the very aware debate between
Jerremy Newsome:hardening schools with security measures.
Jerremy Newsome:and focusing on mental health and provision for children through the
Jerremy Newsome:actual, just the educational component of making all of our children or
Jerremy Newsome:as many of our children feel safe, but provide that mental health
Jerremy Newsome:aspect to stop school shootings.
Jerremy Newsome:How do you see these two different approaches working together?
Lori Alhadeff:So sadly, we have so many kids every day that are Doing self
Lori Alhadeff:harm that are being Baker acted and we need to do more to provide those
Lori Alhadeff:mental health services for our students.
Lori Alhadeff:Give our kids somebody to talk to because they are crying out
Lori Alhadeff:for help by hurting themselves.
Lori Alhadeff:And it breaks my heart that we're not doing more to, to help these kids.
Lori Alhadeff:And so I believe a couple things are in play here.
Lori Alhadeff:One is, so we've developed Moss Clubs, make our school
Lori Alhadeff:safe clubs and high schools.
Lori Alhadeff:It's a free program and where students that are in these clubs,
Lori Alhadeff:they feel empowered to do more for the safety at their school.
Lori Alhadeff:If they raise money to put a stop the bleed kit in every classroom
Lori Alhadeff:in the school, they feel like they're doing something that they
Lori Alhadeff:are not a victim to the school shootings, to the fear of these.
Lori Alhadeff:They're empowered to make it cool, see something, say something and
Lori Alhadeff:report these threats, whether it's on the app or to their teacher or
Lori Alhadeff:to their school resource officer.
Lori Alhadeff:And so I think there's just so much that the schools can do.
Lori Alhadeff:Can do and that doesn't really cost much money But our students need to have
Lori Alhadeff:those resiliency skills to be empowered to take control of their education
Dave Conley:Are you so for the make our school safe club programs, what are
Dave Conley:you hearing back from like the students?
Dave Conley:Are they coming up with creative ideas?
Dave Conley:It's their environment to
Lori Alhadeff:yeah, so Absolutely.
Lori Alhadeff:We have our moss clubs are on instagram and you can actually go and you
Lori Alhadeff:can See what these kids are doing.
Lori Alhadeff:They, some of them have purchased I made a make our school safe coloring
Lori Alhadeff:book and so it would warm my heart.
Lori Alhadeff:One of the clubs they were coloring in the different Alyssa's law pages.
Lori Alhadeff:And one of the things that I always say is, your voice is your power.
Lori Alhadeff:So we have a coloring book page that says your voice is your power.
Lori Alhadeff:And so they were coloring that in.
Lori Alhadeff:And again, I think it's empowering our.
Lori Alhadeff:So I think it's really important that we provide our students with those
Lori Alhadeff:resiliency skills to be able to say no to drugs, say no to alcohol, do the
Lori Alhadeff:right thing, if you have someone that's sitting alone at lunchtime, to go up
Lori Alhadeff:to them and just start a conversation and be a friend, we teach kindness
Lori Alhadeff:and people to be accepting of others.
Lori Alhadeff:And so I think the actions that these students are taking in
Lori Alhadeff:the mosque clubs are actually.
Lori Alhadeff:doing that.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah, so looking to the future, are there new
Jerremy Newsome:initiatives or partnerships in the works for make our schools safe?
Lori Alhadeff:So we have a very specific mission.
Lori Alhadeff:One is passing Alyssa's law nationwide, two is our mosque clubs, and three,
Lori Alhadeff:we raise money with our different fundraisers to give back to schools
Lori Alhadeff:for different school safety projects.
Lori Alhadeff:So that's a lot of work.
Lori Alhadeff:And we but I will continue to go out, tell my story and speak at conferences
Lori Alhadeff:or to, to schools to try to get people to realize that They are not in a bubble.
Lori Alhadeff:We, I was in the Parkland bubble.
Lori Alhadeff:I thought that this was never going to happen to us here.
Lori Alhadeff:I never imagined in a gazillion years that my oldest daughter,
Lori Alhadeff:Alyssa, would be murdered at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
Lori Alhadeff:We live in a very affluent area.
Lori Alhadeff:My biggest concern was taking Alyssa to soccer practice.
Lori Alhadeff:Making sure she did her homework.
Lori Alhadeff:I never thought that we would be affected by a school shooting here.
Lori Alhadeff:I want people to realize that Don't live in a bubble, be prepared, you
Lori Alhadeff:cannot be complacent, don't sit back and never think that this is
Lori Alhadeff:never gonna happen where you live.
Lori Alhadeff:And it's sad, it breaks my heart to, to say that, to be honest, because
Lori Alhadeff:it's unfortunately our reality.
Jerremy Newsome:Yep.
Jerremy Newsome:Miss Lori, about 6 minutes ago, you mentioned the see something, say
Jerremy Newsome:something reporting system just in regards to not only the teachers,
Jerremy Newsome:but most importantly, the students.
Jerremy Newsome:How do you encourage students to overcome, if they have one, maybe
Jerremy Newsome:like the code of silence that kids will have among themselves, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Us versus the teachers, the perspective.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Lori Alhadeff:name.
Lori Alhadeff:And so whether it's a student reporting it or a parent reporting it.
Lori Alhadeff:It can be anonymous.
Lori Alhadeff:So I think that takes away that you're ratting someone out
Lori Alhadeff:or you're telling on someone.
Lori Alhadeff:But, at the end of the day, I think it's just, we have to get over that.
Lori Alhadeff:Concept that I don't know we're not we're hurting someone else's feelings
Lori Alhadeff:because know who the problem kids are and or situations that are happening Or
Lori Alhadeff:somebody that might be so depressed that they might think about killing themselves
Lori Alhadeff:We have to report it so we can get help for those kids that need the help.
Lori Alhadeff:And I always look at it as an additional layer, right?
Lori Alhadeff:Even though the school might have done a behavioral threat assessment,
Lori Alhadeff:now law enforcement's looking at it.
Lori Alhadeff:And that's another, layer that is gonna go and vet out whether that person
Lori Alhadeff:is a threat to themselves or others.
Dave Conley:Laurie for the work that you do the panic button,
Dave Conley:the programs, have you seen differences between urban schools,
Dave Conley:suburban schools and rural schools?
Lori Alhadeff:No I really haven't.
Lori Alhadeff:I, Alyssa's law has been passed unanimously in our seven states,
Lori Alhadeff:and it's been passed unanimously Republican or Democrat.
Lori Alhadeff:And as far as different areas, the Moss Clubs are, accepted or, in every area.
Lori Alhadeff:So kids are kids and, kids want to just be safe in school and they
Lori Alhadeff:want to interact with adults, be in a positive, healthy environment.
Lori Alhadeff:We did a skate for school safety event a couple weeks ago and we had 75 kids
Lori Alhadeff:on a Friday come out and ice skate.
Lori Alhadeff:And these are things that parents can do where they live.
Lori Alhadeff:We're starting something called Moss Moms and Moss Dads, where parents can be safety
Lori Alhadeff:advocates for their school in their area.
Lori Alhadeff:They could be advocates for Alyssa's law.
Lori Alhadeff:And we now have on our website where you can take action, send an email
Lori Alhadeff:to your legislator in your area and try to get Alyssa's law passed there.
Jerremy Newsome:Which is actually what the answer is my questions.
Jerremy Newsome:And That's so heartwarming to know that's it's growing and evolving to
Jerremy Newsome:not only more of a community piece, but just to have the parents interact and
Jerremy Newsome:have them really care about this and the way that they absolutely should.
Jerremy Newsome:Semi fun question, maybe, but what's the most creative school safety idea that
Jerremy Newsome:you've heard or seen from a student?
Lori Alhadeff:I think one of the things that just getting a simple shoe box, the
Lori Alhadeff:kids got where kids can report something.
Lori Alhadeff:They might feel unsafe about or something that's going on and they can anonymously
Lori Alhadeff:put that, write it down on a piece of paper and put it in that safety box.
Lori Alhadeff:And then, the administration would look at the what's on written on that piece
Lori Alhadeff:of paper and then do something about it.
Lori Alhadeff:Our kids know what's going on, whether it's on their phone, Snapchat,
Lori Alhadeff:texting, they know what is, happening.
Lori Alhadeff:So it's just a simple creative way.
Lori Alhadeff:Doesn't cost anything and they can take action.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah, totally.
Jerremy Newsome:And that's, you've been, you said that phrase a few times, it doesn't cost
Jerremy Newsome:anything or cost very little because we're screaming out to the government.
Jerremy Newsome:It's come on, let's use some more, let's use some more of our money to implement
Jerremy Newsome:correct, proper, and, more productive budgeting pieces for just the safety.
Jerremy Newsome:I think that's something that's so obvious to me.
Jerremy Newsome:That's just being, I guess you just use improperly.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah that's awesome.
Jerremy Newsome:All another quick, fun question for you then.
Jerremy Newsome:So I hear that you're still actively involved in the Parkland soccer club.
Jerremy Newsome:What's your favorite part about staying connected to the youth sports, Ms. Laurie?
Lori Alhadeff:So a couple of things.
Lori Alhadeff:I used to be a health and physical education teacher,
Lori Alhadeff:but I also played soccer and my daughter, Alyssa played soccer.
Lori Alhadeff:And on February 13th, Alyssa played in her last soccer game in Parkland on
Lori Alhadeff:field eight and Alyssa played amazing.
Lori Alhadeff:I remember when she got into the car, I turned around and I was like, Alyssa, you
Lori Alhadeff:just played the best game of your life.
Lori Alhadeff:She's I know mom.
Lori Alhadeff:And so obviously I have a love for the Parkland soccer club.
Lori Alhadeff:Field eight was named after Alyssa.
Lori Alhadeff:It's the Alyssa Alodef soccer field.
Lori Alhadeff:And the number eight was Alyssa's number on the back of her Jersey.
Lori Alhadeff:And then when you turn the eight sideways.
Lori Alhadeff:It's the infinity symbol, which
Jerremy Newsome:let's go.
Jerremy Newsome:That makes so much sense now.
Lori Alhadeff:Yeah.
Lori Alhadeff:And forever, I remember Alyssa and I live for Alyssa and do everything for
Lori Alhadeff:Alyssa and I feel Alyssa Lives inside me, Alyssa's always here with me, and so
Lori Alhadeff:we've also created the Bigs and Little program at the Parkland Soccer Club,
Lori Alhadeff:where one of the older soccer players will match up with the younger soccer
Lori Alhadeff:player, and then they mentor each other.
Lori Alhadeff:And support each other in their games.
Lori Alhadeff:And then we do a juggle for school safety events where they get a special
Lori Alhadeff:t shirt and they do a juggle contest and then help raise money for make our
Lori Alhadeff:school safe in the Parkland soccer club.
Jerremy Newsome:got it.
Jerremy Newsome:That's heartwarming for our listeners that the number eight.
Jerremy Newsome:So in her logo maker school safe, the two O's in schools are an
Jerremy Newsome:eight infinity symbol, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Which that is one of my favorite symbols, the infinity symbol.
Jerremy Newsome:And I love the tattoo on your arm too.
Jerremy Newsome:That's that part of that logo.
Jerremy Newsome:It's just beautiful.
Jerremy Newsome:Very heartwarming.
Jerremy Newsome:So Miss Laurie, what advice would you give specifically being such a
Jerremy Newsome:powerful advocate for this to parents and or educators in states that haven't
Jerremy Newsome:adopted most of these measures yet?
Jerremy Newsome:Most specifically, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Alyssa's law.
Lori Alhadeff:So I would speak up, go to school board
Lori Alhadeff:meetings, be a public speaker.
Lori Alhadeff:If there's something that you don't feel safe about in your child's
Lori Alhadeff:school, say something about it.
Lori Alhadeff:Talk to elected officials, talk to your school board members, talk
Lori Alhadeff:to your commissioners, your state representatives and ask them, why don't
Lori Alhadeff:we have our panic button in our schools?
Lori Alhadeff:This is a common sense layer of school safety protection.
Lori Alhadeff:We need this.
Lori Alhadeff:What are you doing about it?
Lori Alhadeff:And put it on them as elected officials to take action.
Lori Alhadeff:That's their job.
Lori Alhadeff:Their job is to make sure that your kid is safe in school.
Lori Alhadeff:And make sure, and I think it's vitally important as a parent to ask
Lori Alhadeff:those questions and demand action.
Jerremy Newsome:Yep.
Jerremy Newsome:Are there resources or networks that they could connect with outside
Jerremy Newsome:of the school board meetings?
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Lori Alhadeff:So you can go to MakeOurSchoolSafe.
Lori Alhadeff:org.
Lori Alhadeff:We have resources on our website, but also SchoolSafety.
Lori Alhadeff:gov is an excellent resource where you can learn more about where you can get
Lori Alhadeff:grants for funding for school safety.
Lori Alhadeff:That, that's the question I continue to ask, as a school board member,
Lori Alhadeff:what grants have we applied for?
Lori Alhadeff:Because we get the grants, We get the funding, we can implement another layer
Lori Alhadeff:of safety protection in our schools.
Lori Alhadeff:Whether it's now putting AI technology in our cameras, that if, a, someone
Lori Alhadeff:takes out a gun, it will immediately box it and send an alert to law enforcement
Lori Alhadeff:that there is a gun in the school.
Jerremy Newsome:Ooh.
Jerremy Newsome:So they can.
Jerremy Newsome:Wow.
Jerremy Newsome:I didn't even know that.
Jerremy Newsome:So you're talking about AI technology, like in the camera
Jerremy Newsome:representation of certain images.
Lori Alhadeff:So if someone takes out a knife or a gun, the AI technology will
Lori Alhadeff:recognize that, box it, alert, and send an immediate alert to law enforcement.
Lori Alhadeff:Someone jumps a fence.
Lori Alhadeff:That AI technology will recognize that and alert that.
Dave Conley:That was our actually our first interview was with companies that
Dave Conley:do exactly that using AI technology.
Dave Conley:They also talked about drones and robots.
Dave Conley:And that was a little creepy to me, but I, wherever, whatever works,
Lori Alhadeff:apparently Trump has the dog robot
Dave Conley:saw that.
Lori Alhadeff:Musk put out, gave him, protecting the grounds.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Dave Conley:I don't want one.
Dave Conley:And they're creepy.
Dave Conley:I know.
Dave Conley:Hey, so Lori, I'm, I'm old enough.
Dave Conley:I know neither of you two are, but I'm old enough to know and remember a time
Dave Conley:when that was before Evaldi, before Aurora, before Parkland, before Columbine
Dave Conley:like these didn't seem to happen at all.
Dave Conley:And now we are getting a school shooting every single day.
Dave Conley:Not just the headline grabbers, but also the the ones that are arguments
Dave Conley:that happen outside the schools that are happening, just every single
Dave Conley:day where a child is getting shot.
Dave Conley:Like what and other internet, and it doesn't happen internationally, even in
Dave Conley:countries that have lots and lots of guns.
Dave Conley:I'm.
Dave Conley:I'm trying to understand, I'm trying to figure out like what's happened
Dave Conley:in the last 25 years where, what, systemically, like what's going on,
Dave Conley:like what's in the water is my question.
Dave Conley:And I haven't yet heard anybody say this is what happened.
Dave Conley:Do you have a feel for what, what's going on?
Dave Conley:Why is this getting worse?
Dave Conley:Not better.
Lori Alhadeff:I think maybe With the internet with kids having playing the
Lori Alhadeff:video games with the guns and they're spending hours and hours playing these
Lori Alhadeff:shooting games mentally it's getting in their head and then they're getting
Lori Alhadeff:access to weapons whether it's their parents giving them a gun for christmas
Lori Alhadeff:as I guess the apalachee shooter got or just Parents not locking up their
Lori Alhadeff:guns and then kids getting access to these guns, I, I don't know, and I never
Lori Alhadeff:lived in this world of gun violence.
Lori Alhadeff:My life has been very vanilla.
Lori Alhadeff:I grew up in country, where we had cows walking around.
Lori Alhadeff:I lived in New Jersey and always lived in a very affluent area.
Lori Alhadeff:And didn't come across gun violence, but I hear you.
Lori Alhadeff:I, it scares me because there are shootings happening everywhere
Lori Alhadeff:and it's like, where are you safe?
Lori Alhadeff:I remember after the shooting, I wanted to have a bulletproof vest.
Lori Alhadeff:Because I didn't feel safe going outside my house.
Lori Alhadeff:I demanded that my kids have a bulletproof backpack to go to school
Lori Alhadeff:after Alyssa was murdered in school.
Lori Alhadeff:So my kids have a bulletproof backpack because I felt like if everything
Lori Alhadeff:fails, if all those layers fail, they would at least have something
Lori Alhadeff:to possibly protect themselves.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Which is wild that we even have to have that discussion and ask
Jerremy Newsome:nine that even has to be a thing.
Jerremy Newsome:Bulletproof backpacks.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:But it is there.
Jerremy Newsome:And again, at least that is a step in the right direction of instead of just
Jerremy Newsome:sweeping this under the rugs and no one having any conversations about it to at
Jerremy Newsome:least addressing the problem again, just thank you for your bravery on that front.
Jerremy Newsome:And I would love for our listeners to know, Laurie, like, how can they, our
Jerremy Newsome:listeners support make our schools safe.
Jerremy Newsome:org.
Lori Alhadeff:So they can go to our website, MakeOurSchoolSafe.
Lori Alhadeff:org.
Lori Alhadeff:They can sign up for our email list.
Lori Alhadeff:And we send out weekly emails, how they can get involved.
Lori Alhadeff:You can follow us on Facebook, make our school safe 17, Instagram,
Lori Alhadeff:make our school safe, Twitter at Lori Alhadeff or ex Lori Alhadeff.
Lori Alhadeff:Be a volunteer.
Lori Alhadeff:You could start a Moss Club at your high school.
Lori Alhadeff:We have a Moss Club director, Lexi.
Lori Alhadeff:She's amazing.
Lori Alhadeff:She'll help the students start their Moss Club.
Lori Alhadeff:It's a free program.
Lori Alhadeff:And you can we have a volunteer guidebook.
Lori Alhadeff:You could check that out.
Lori Alhadeff:And I think it's just taking Any step you can to be involved, and it just
Lori Alhadeff:means following us on social media.
Lori Alhadeff:Great.
Lori Alhadeff:But you can make a donation to make our school safe.
Lori Alhadeff:You can become a Moss mom or Moss dad, and just be engaged, be involved
Lori Alhadeff:and be a part of the conversation.
Lori Alhadeff:Because together we will make our school safe.
Jerremy Newsome:We will.
Jerremy Newsome:Thank you.
Jerremy Newsome:And I'll be making a donation as well.
Jerremy Newsome:Laurie personally.
Jerremy Newsome:But I think there's just the awareness of this started with you and just
Jerremy Newsome:say thank you for your bravery.
Jerremy Newsome:Thank you for your courage.
Jerremy Newsome:Thank you for not stopping where a lot of people will.
Jerremy Newsome:And Understandably but you took the badge of honor to say, I think other people need
Jerremy Newsome:to know that there can be solutions and you are bringing those to the forefront
Jerremy Newsome:and thank you for creating Alyssa's Law and creating a very easy, very simple,
Jerremy Newsome:very seemingly effective and quite safe implementation tactic and tool and system
Jerremy Newsome:so that we can do just that, right?
Jerremy Newsome:Make our school safe, create an amazing learning experience for children,
Jerremy Newsome:create a place that is beautiful, that is simple, It's luxurious,
Jerremy Newsome:it is fun, it is entertaining.
Jerremy Newsome:And most importantly safe for the parents so that we have peace of
Jerremy Newsome:mind, that we have joy, that we have love and safe for our kids as well.
Jerremy Newsome:Lori, thank you for being with us here today.
Lori Alhadeff:Absolutely.
Dave Conley:Wow.
Dave Conley:What did you learn?
Jerremy Newsome:What did I learn on that, Dave?
Jerremy Newsome:Here's the thing, man.
Jerremy Newsome:I am tragically upset that we had to have an interview with
Jerremy Newsome:someone who actually lost.
Jerremy Newsome:Their child to such a tragedy, just such a stupid asinine situation
Jerremy Newsome:for anyone to ever go through, but Lori stepped up to the plate.
Jerremy Newsome:She did not let this stop her and other parents.
Jerremy Newsome:In creating solutions for this problem and the ELISA law to me is
Jerremy Newsome:so far the seemingly most simple solution that I think, and I feel
Jerremy Newsome:could be very quickly implemented in every school across the nation.
Jerremy Newsome:And not only implemented, but at very small cost, without question, would
Jerremy Newsome:at least increase, as Lori mentioned the safety and the feeling of safety
Jerremy Newsome:for teachers and for students, knowing that they have this panic alarm that,
Jerremy Newsome:Lori mentioned is in banks, is in most financial institutions here in the U.
Jerremy Newsome:S., but is not in our schools, which is one more reason and
Jerremy Newsome:rationale Why we really do need to care for our schools more and I
Jerremy Newsome:think this is a great start to that
Dave Conley:Yeah, I completely agree.
Dave Conley:We've now talked with teachers, we've talked with security specialists, and now
Dave Conley:we've talked with Lori, who's channeled her grief And what struck me about this
Dave Conley:is that it really, it solved immediately in my mind, some of the friction points
Dave Conley:that both the teachers and some of the.
Dave Conley:Executives in, in this world have been saying, which is this is expensive.
Dave Conley:I, an app on a phone doesn't seem that expensive if it's, letting
Dave Conley:the local law enforcement say, Hey, there's something going on here.
Dave Conley:That seems really straightforward.
Dave Conley:And the teacher saying, Hey, we don't have time for this while it's an app, right?
Dave Conley:And we already know that there's training and those things that are necessary.
Dave Conley:And that's one thing that she's frustrated by, but it took, it's elegant and it's
Dave Conley:inexpensive and this doesn't, this takes only prioritization, nothing else.
Jerremy Newsome:Love that word.
Jerremy Newsome:Yeah.
Jerremy Newsome:Prioritization awareness, a group of individuals coming together and saying
Jerremy Newsome:this needs to be a minimum requirement.
Jerremy Newsome:So then it will be very simple.
Jerremy Newsome:Something that probably could happen in weeks.
Jerremy Newsome:If some mandatory government institution provided such a, to use
Jerremy Newsome:your word, prioritization of impact.
Jerremy Newsome:Right.
Dave Conley:Absolutely.
Dave Conley:I think, I learned one other thing and it's I'm, I think it's my white
Dave Conley:whale right now because I believe I've asked this three times now, is that
Dave Conley:there was this time before Columbine, before Parkland, before Aurora, before
Dave Conley:Ivaldi, there was this time before.
Dave Conley:That this wasn't happening and I've asked everyone and I've, I've done a
Dave Conley:little bit of digging on the internet and there's no good answers to
Dave Conley:okay, what happened and what's going on and why is this getting worse?
Dave Conley:And I think it's an easy question and a really hard answer.
Dave Conley:I don't think there's any one thing, it's not going to be, Oh, it's social
Dave Conley:media or it's games or it's, social structure, or it's this, that, or
Dave Conley:the other, it's the food we eat or the medicalization of our kids.
Dave Conley:It might be some or all or something that, that we don't know yet.
Dave Conley:And what frustrates me is that we don't have the the company, the organization,
Dave Conley:the government the, anything that's.
Dave Conley:Standing up, it seems and saying, okay, we're going to find out what that is,
Dave Conley:because once we solve that, we don't have to have schools that are fortresses.
Dave Conley:They can be just cathedrals.
Dave Conley:They don't need to, we don't need to spend money on that if we solve that first.
Jerremy Newsome:Listeners, I hope you also learn something
Jerremy Newsome:today and are reinvigorated that there are people out there.
Jerremy Newsome:There are podcasts out there.
Jerremy Newsome:There are individuals out there that are working on truly creating solutions.
Jerremy Newsome:It's one thing to always discuss and talk about the problems, but it's an entirely
Jerremy Newsome:different energy and appreciation to actually spend time on those solutions.
Jerremy Newsome:And that is exactly what we did in this episode of solving America's problems.
