Special Guest Host: Robyn Ivy - Mastering Money's Energy for Abundance and Wholeness
In this transformative episode of Solving America’s Problems, guest host Robyn Ivy—a life coach, medium, and intuitive guide—interviews Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley on the profound link between money, relationships, and spiritual growth. They explore Jerremy’s journey from poverty to wealth building through stock market investing, overcoming financial fears and shame, balancing masculine and feminine energies, and urgent calls for educational reform and creativity in schools amid AI’s rise. Emphasizing gratitude and positive thinking, they reveal how aligning with money’s energy fosters prosperity, healing, and societal solutions.
Timestamps:
- (00:00) Introduction and Host Takeover
- (00:34) Robyn Ivy's Background
- (01:14) The Relationship Between Money and Everything
- (03:14) Jerremy's Journey with Money and Relationships
- (05:19) Jerremy's Backstory
- (05:55) Early Influences and Stock Market Fascination
- (07:45) The Importance of Consistency in Wealth Building
- (17:22) Overcoming Financial Fears
- (22:01) The Energetics of Money and Speed
- (27:58) Balancing Rigidity and Flexibility
- (29:29) The Two Wolves: Light and Dark
- (30:26) Men, Healing, and Leadership
- (33:51) The Persistent Problem of Hunger
- (35:27) Rethinking the Educational System
- (36:05) The Importance of Creativity in Schools
- (38:11) Preparing for the Future with AI
- (41:24) Financial Wisdom and Investing
- (55:12) The Power of Positive Thinking and Gratitude
- (59:11) Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Transcript
Hi.
Robyn Ivy:Welcome back to Solving America's Problems.
Robyn Ivy:I'm your guest host, Robyn Ivy.
Robyn Ivy:Today we're doing something different.
Robyn Ivy:I get to interview one of my favorite people of all time, and kind of like
Robyn Ivy:a brother to me, Dave Conley, who's living in a support role of Jerremy.
Robyn Ivy:And I couldn't be happier to meet you Jerremy and
Jerremy:Likewise.
Robyn Ivy:I sort of take over your podcast.
Robyn Ivy:Thanks
Jerremy:is.
Jerremy:It's, yeah, it's gonna be so fun.
Jerremy:So fun.
Jerremy:I love interacting with new people.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah, this is great.
Robyn Ivy:It's great to do a little bit of a, um, friendly takeover
Robyn Ivy:of somebody else's space.
Jerremy:Yeah, likewise.
Robyn Ivy:So for your listeners who don't know who I am, my name's Robin Ivy.
Robyn Ivy:I'm a life coach.
Robyn Ivy:I live here in Rhode Island, but travel around the world teaching and presenting.
Robyn Ivy:And um, I'm a medium and intuitive guide and I host the Robin Ivy podcast
Robyn Ivy:where we talk about navigating change and creating the life you want while
Robyn Ivy:you navigate the one you actually have.
Robyn Ivy:Uh, we dive deep in all sorts of spiritual conversations.
Robyn Ivy:I talk about thought leadership and really how to change your
Robyn Ivy:life from the inside out.
Robyn Ivy:So this felt like a pretty cool place to talk about solving problems and
Robyn Ivy:all the things you guys talk about.
Jerremy:Yeah, absolutely.
Jerremy:I think blending and co-creating both worlds will be, uh, very magical.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Cool.
Robyn Ivy:So, Jerremy, when I was in Miami, um, a couple weeks ago
Robyn Ivy:with Dave, he said something that's like really stuck with me.
Robyn Ivy:He said, of all the things that he's learned from hanging out with you, that
Robyn Ivy:you sang to him, that your relationship to money is essentially the same
Robyn Ivy:as your relationship to everything.
Robyn Ivy:And that if you figure out your relationship to relationship, then
Robyn Ivy:your to money will completely change.
Robyn Ivy:How true is that?
Robyn Ivy:And tell me about that.
Jerremy:Radically true.
Jerremy:Uh, in my opinion, I, I feel like money is a relationship, energy.
Jerremy:And one thing that I've noticed for some people, not everyone, but a lot
Jerremy:of people have commitment problems.
Jerremy:We have commitment issues, so,
Robyn Ivy:I can't relate.
Dave:me either.
Jerremy:so, you know, picking something and sticking to it like, all right, cool.
Jerremy:I guess me and you for a long, long, long time is really, really challenging.
Jerremy:And.
Robyn Ivy:uh.
Jerremy:For money that oftentimes can feel the same as well, where you
Jerremy:get some, but you never feel like it's enough and it doesn't stay with you
Jerremy:very long because as soon as you get it, you pay all the bills, you pay off
Jerremy:your debts, you pay all the things.
Jerremy:And it's like, well, yeah, that's what some I'm supposed to do.
Jerremy:But then the money doesn't really stay there, just like a relationship might not.
Jerremy:And you always feel like you're in this circle of the perpetual ness of not ever
Jerremy:having enough, or the individuals that do actually have plenty of money, not
Jerremy:recognizing and realizing that they have enough, not feeling like they have enough.
Jerremy:So it's very much one thing to be rich.
Jerremy:It's another thing to feel rich.
Jerremy:It's one thing to have prosperity.
Jerremy:It's another thing to perpetually create prosperity and to scale it
Jerremy:and to grow it and to have more of it just like in a relationship, right?
Jerremy:Having more love and having love expand versus picking someone and
Jerremy:just dealing with all of their problems again, big, big shifts there.
Robyn Ivy:Mm-hmm.
Robyn Ivy:Tell me how you know this.
Jerremy:Well, I've studied both relationships and money in depth, uh,
Jerremy:very closely for a long period of time.
Jerremy:Um, the relationship piece, more from the study of energy, masculine and feminine
Jerremy:energy and just kind of understanding to the best of my ability, what, what
Jerremy:embodies an individual, what they carry with them from a day-to-day basis, what
Jerremy:they actually do, what they say, what they use, and what type of energy that
Jerremy:is holding within themselves and what the purpose of it is and why they're doing it.
Jerremy:And then also the money piece kind of happened to me and for me, and then
Jerremy:ultimately through me and the money.
Jerremy:Uh, understanding money, understanding how it moves was
Jerremy:just always fascinating to me.
Jerremy:I love the stock market since a very little kid and seeing how both
Jerremy:of them connected was really as I got closer and closer to my wife.
Jerremy:We got married five years ago in February.
Jerremy:As that relationship started coming together, it made it a lot more clear.
Jerremy:'cause she's very much more in your world.
Jerremy:So she has her doctorate in metaphysics, so she's very, very, uh, she's
Jerremy:the queen of the Woo, like, as you know, far as you can go into ville.
Jerremy:My wife is the mayor of, of
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Jerremy:and
Robyn Ivy:Uhhuh.
Jerremy:learning about her world and, oh, you two will have a blast.
Jerremy:You two will have a blast.
Jerremy:So she, she loves it.
Jerremy:But, and then, and then seeing her, her unique struggle when we met about
Jerremy:charging money for her services.
Jerremy:Keeping money, how she did it, how she thought about it, and then just having
Jerremy:really in depth conversations from someone who's way smarter than I am in everything.
Jerremy:Uh, and then having this back and forth dialogue of why was she struggling
Jerremy:with growing her business or making a lot more money, or keeping a lot
Jerremy:of money or feeling safe around money or feeling safe around men.
Jerremy:And just having this really cool back and forth and just relaying
Jerremy:it and tying it all to money.
Jerremy:Yeah, it's been an awesome, awesome journey for the last five or six years.
Robyn Ivy:So for my people, Jerremy, who've never heard of you and are
Robyn Ivy:excited to be meeting you like I am, can you give us a little bit of the
Robyn Ivy:backstory to put yourself in context?
Jerremy:Yeah, totally.
Jerremy:I'll do it.
Jerremy:And three minutes.
Jerremy:I grew up in Georgia.
Jerremy:I lived in a very impoverished place.
Jerremy:Uh, so about as poor as you can grow up in the United States of America.
Jerremy:I grew up in a single wide trailer tree house.
Jerremy:With no running water, with no air conditioning in Georgia.
Jerremy:So it was always hot, it was always sticky.
Jerremy:Mosquitoes the size of Pterodactyls would
Robyn Ivy:Uhhuh.
Jerremy:be my constant companion.
Jerremy:And I watched a movie for the very first time that changed my life.
Jerremy:In 1994.
Jerremy:It was me, my father, and my oldest brother.
Jerremy:Uh, his name is Jerry Roger.
Jerremy:And we watched the movie Forrest Gump and 80% of the movie Forrest starts
Jerremy:recounting the story about how he and Lieutenant Dan are investing.
Jerremy:So he says, Lieutenant Dan invested into some kind of fruit company and said, we
Jerremy:don't have to worry about money no more.
Jerremy:So I said, good, one less thing.
Jerremy:And that just baffled me at that exact moment, that moment in time.
Jerremy:It was a beautiful paradigm shift.
Jerremy:'cause I had never ever heard someone say, you do not have to worry about money.
Jerremy:So I asked my dad, what is a fruit company?
Jerremy:Like what's he talking about?
Jerremy:I have no idea these words.
Jerremy:And obviously Forrest was talking about Apple.
Jerremy:They invest into Apple computers.
Jerremy:And my dad started to the best of his ability explaining what Apple is and what
Jerremy:the stock market is and what investing is.
Jerremy:And he told me the a strategy that still works to this day.
Jerremy:It's in fact probably the easiest way to explain the stock market,
Jerremy:buy companies that you use.
Jerremy:Do you understand their products?
Jerremy:You interact with their money every day or every week.
Jerremy:And if you continue to like those companies, you keep buying those
Jerremy:companies, the stock will probably go up.
Jerremy:And so that advice I kind of carried with me forever.
Jerremy:So since the age of six, uh, I begged my dad to invest in the stock market
Jerremy:and he gave me the very, very common answers that most people give when
Jerremy:we talk about the stock market.
Jerremy:I don't have enough money.
Jerremy:I don't have enough time.
Jerremy:I'm not smart enough.
Jerremy:Those are the three main ones, right?
Jerremy:A lot of times it's.
Jerremy:I just, I don't have any knowledge.
Jerremy:Like I can't watch the news for 45 hours a day.
Jerremy:Like, I don't know what you're doing.
Jerremy:I don't know how to do this.
Jerremy:And my answer is always, well, it's very easy, right?
Jerremy:Wealth is second grade math repeated consistently and
Robyn Ivy:That's good news.
Jerremy:It is.
Jerremy:And so once you, but the word is consistent, right?
Jerremy:It's, it's a repetition.
Jerremy:It's a repetition.
Jerremy:So we're all smart enough because Robin, you got an A in second grade math.
Jerremy:Dave got an A in second grade math when we took, uh, in 1912.
Jerremy:Uh, I got a, I got an A in second grade math.
Jerremy:Um, we all got A's in second grade math.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:So
Dave:Ro Robin, we're not gonna,
Jerremy:me, me and
Dave:here.
Robyn Ivy:are you gonna do?
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Dave:a year apart.
Jerremy:no, me, me and Dave.
Jerremy:I'd always make fun of Dave.
Robyn Ivy:was born in 1912.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Dave:Ah,
Jerremy:boy.
Jerremy:Oh boy.
Dave:God.
Dave:All right.
Dave:I'm going everybody.
Dave:Thanks.
Jerremy:but Dave's off, Dave's off the podcast.
Jerremy:He's leaving.
Robyn Ivy:This is how, this is how you know we're family.
Jerremy:Yeah, no, I love Dave.
Jerremy:Um, and so we, we, yeah, I just love the stock market.
Jerremy:I asked my, like I begged him and begged him and begged him and begged
Jerremy:him and he eventually caved and said, BR buddy, if you bring me some
Jerremy:money on match at dollar for dollar.
Jerremy:And so I went, I picked, uh, blackberries and sold them door to door
Robyn Ivy:Yeah,
Jerremy:a dollar a bag and made $1,500 in the summer of 1995.
Jerremy:And my dad borrowed, matched it, uh, borrowed $1,500 from my uncle Billy.
Jerremy:We bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in 1995, and ever since then, I have been
Jerremy:immersed and I've read book, every book I've been to, every class, every webinar.
Jerremy:I've spent seven hours of my life, probably every day since the age of 12,
Jerremy:studying and learning the stock market and diving into it and, and trading it
Jerremy:every day and interacting with it every day, and helping people from all over
Jerremy:the world understand it and interact with it, and then grow their wealth from it.
Robyn Ivy:I think it's so fascinating.
Robyn Ivy:So like I just said, I'm 51, so five decades on the planet.
Robyn Ivy:It's so interesting to me how one of us is somehow hardwired
Robyn Ivy:to turn towards something.
Robyn Ivy:With great intensity and curiosity that might be a thing that other people
Robyn Ivy:spend their entire life turning away
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Robyn Ivy:or
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Robyn Ivy:You know?
Robyn Ivy:And when it comes to things like money or metaphysics or politics or solving
Robyn Ivy:hard problems that feel beyond our own agency, we can either really see that as
Robyn Ivy:this great opportunity to learn something and to get into that arena with it.
Robyn Ivy:Or it can be totally the opposite.
Robyn Ivy:And I love that.
Robyn Ivy:Now.
Robyn Ivy:I recognize like nobody has the time to do all of that in every category.
Robyn Ivy:So thanks for being somebody that does it in that one.
Robyn Ivy:Because if we all just share those resources with each other, then like none
Robyn Ivy:of us have to do it at that full throttle unless it's the thing we really wanna do.
Jerremy:Yeah, totally.
Jerremy:And to your point, uh, I grew up in a cult.
Jerremy:I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness for
Robyn Ivy:Mm-hmm.
Jerremy:far, the vast majority of my life.
Jerremy:And I would be terrified to talk to you, you know, 15 years ago,
Jerremy:um, to talk to anyone that's a medium or anyone that works in the
Jerremy:energies of something that's not.
Jerremy:The Bible.
Jerremy:Right.
Jerremy:And it was, uh, to, to your point, like we all have things that we
Jerremy:love and that we focus on, that we energetically align with.
Jerremy:And the more that we share that gift through the world, the
Jerremy:more prosperous we will be.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Well, and it's interesting 'cause my dad was a Methodist minister and there was
Robyn Ivy:something about kind of being born behind what I call like that curtain of Oz and
Robyn Ivy:seeing that discrepancy between being a, a human being who's here to preach about
Robyn Ivy:God and but also not be God himself.
Robyn Ivy:And that immediate question of like, huh, well you don't seem to be kind
Robyn Ivy:of living up to the expectations that you're preaching about.
Robyn Ivy:As no one could, right?
Robyn Ivy:But at
Jerremy:Yeah, of course.
Robyn Ivy:I was like, I'm seeing some gap here in this thing.
Jerremy:Hmm.
Robyn Ivy:and it really opened up a lot of exploration around metaphysical things.
Robyn Ivy:at the deepest part of that, I really felt catapulted back into like
Robyn Ivy:Christianity at a very deep place because it's all the same thing really.
Robyn Ivy:You know, it's all the same thing at the end of the road.
Robyn Ivy:In my
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:uh,
Jerremy:It,
Robyn Ivy:of love that about that.
Robyn Ivy:Whether it's the energy of money or the energy of God or whatever
Robyn Ivy:denominational perspective you hold the holier you get, the truer we get
Robyn Ivy:with the thing, the pure, the energy, it seems like the better it all goes.
Jerremy:yes, yes, yes, yes.
Jerremy:Yep.
Jerremy:Yeah, well that's, uh, I'll bring it up Robin, just so that you
Jerremy:have more of the context as well.
Jerremy:And for your listeners.
Jerremy:The whole reason that I feel compelled and moved and guided and
Jerremy:pushed towards running for president is because of all of this, right?
Jerremy:Growing up, Joe's witness, that was a big no-no.
Jerremy:In fact, they keep away from all politics.
Jerremy:So one of their biggest, I, I guess, core tenets of belief is
Robyn Ivy:Hmm.
Jerremy:be separate from the world as much as possible and only interact
Jerremy:with it like when you're working.
Jerremy:So it's very, very, very small.
Jerremy:And I would be asked all the time at 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, what
Jerremy:are you gonna do with your life?
Jerremy:And I would have to make up something.
Jerremy:Because I already knew the answer like since I was a kid.
Jerremy:Like, why, just like you, oh, you're gonna go play baseball and become a
Jerremy:professional baseball, or a firefighter or a movie star or actress or whatever.
Jerremy:I've always knew that the whole purpose of my life, the ultimate
Jerremy:goal is to serve at that capacity, to be a leader in that capacity.
Jerremy:And I was always terrified of that.
Jerremy:So as after I, I was terrified of the distinction and the separation.
Jerremy:'cause there couldn't be both in that particular religion.
Jerremy:So once I left the religion and I realized what a great gift it was for me,
Jerremy:it kept me safe, it kept me protected, it kept me, uh, from doing really,
Jerremy:really dumb things because that's how I learned, I learned through mistakes.
Jerremy:So I was really mistake free.
Jerremy:For a vast portion of my life, and I don't really have any skeletons in the closet.
Jerremy:I don't really have anything to be afraid of or ashamed of.
Jerremy:There's nothing, I didn't do anything.
Jerremy:I just played basketball with a bunch of witnesses my whole life, you know?
Jerremy:So I didn't have any, I didn't have any negatives, uh uh, and I started doing
Jerremy:a lot of the joda spina meditation work, and that's where I met my higher
Jerremy:self, or the best version of me, or the most disciplined version of me.
Jerremy:And every time I interact with that beingness, that meanness, uh, I've noticed
Jerremy:that that's what I'm supposed to do is at least really make an extremely valiant
Jerremy:effort to live the reason I was created, which is to, again, to serve as the
Jerremy:president of the United States of America.
Jerremy:And I thought, just my funny belief that every male.
Jerremy:That was born, had that desire.
Jerremy:And I was like, man, I gotta compete against everybody.
Jerremy:Like this is gonna be hard.
Jerremy:And the more I start talking to people, the more people I realize
Jerremy:that nobody wants that job.
Jerremy:It's like seven dumb dudes, uh, generally want that.
Jerremy:So that's, that's why I'm here.
Jerremy:That's why we're here.
Jerremy:That's why Dave and I are being putting in so much time and energy and effort
Jerremy:into creating something incredible.
Robyn Ivy:Well, and it's interesting when you think about serving at scale, like at
Robyn Ivy:whatever your definition of the highest level is, kind of the fundamentals and
Robyn Ivy:the foundational things that it's helpful to really understand whether you are in
Robyn Ivy:full agreement with them or completely not kind of understanding, the, understanding
Robyn Ivy:the energetics of money and the pain of money and the joy of money and the
Robyn Ivy:relationality of money or being able to do that in terms of religious experience.
Robyn Ivy:Whether you agree with things that are more dogmatic or more rigid or you open
Robyn Ivy:up to something far more, uh, unbounded.
Robyn Ivy:I think it sets you up well, especially if you're exploring masculine energy
Robyn Ivy:and feminine energy, because the more we understand about leadership, the
Robyn Ivy:more we're talking about wholeness.
Robyn Ivy:And we're talking about being able to access these different parts
Robyn Ivy:of our own humanity, which we see historically was not the case,
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:much hiding who they were in hopes that nobody would
Robyn Ivy:ever find them out, and the level of pressure of imposter syndrome.
Robyn Ivy:then you play that out at scale in the Congress and the Senate and like
Jerremy:Uh huh
Robyn Ivy:who's ever run, who never wants to admit they smoked weed
Jerremy:Uhhuh.
Robyn Ivy:something stupid or learned by any misstep of any kind, like, do they
Robyn Ivy:really think that we don't know that they had to have missed steps somewhere in
Jerremy:Yep.
Robyn Ivy:learn something?
Robyn Ivy:Or are we meant to think they're just buffoons having clearly no experience
Robyn Ivy:other than something positive?
Robyn Ivy:You know, the, I think the veil's ready to drop, so,
Jerremy:I love that.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:That's beautiful.
Jerremy:Yep.
Jerremy:I agree.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah, I, I think there's so much, there's so much liberation
Robyn Ivy:in the things that at one point maybe feel like they tie us down,
Robyn Ivy:and I think that's, I don't know.
Robyn Ivy:I often think like it was only because I grew up as a preacher's kid, that I
Robyn Ivy:gave myself the permission to go all the way to the edge of the Woo, which
Robyn Ivy:I ironically gave me permission to like pray a rosary as a Protestant kid.
Robyn Ivy:You know, like, I don't, I, I will hope, I will probably pray this rosary every
Robyn Ivy:day till I die, and who'd have thought?
Robyn Ivy:But if we're not open to this stuff, whether it's the possibility of becoming
Robyn Ivy:president or the possibility of leading a family in a different capacity or just
Robyn Ivy:leading ourself through the world or trying to invest in, in something that we
Robyn Ivy:don't understand it, what we're here for.
Robyn Ivy:Right?
Jerremy:Yeah, I agree.
Jerremy:Well, let, let's have, I'd like to ask this question, Rob.
Jerremy:I think it would just be fun,
Robyn Ivy:Sure.
Jerremy:uh, as it regards to the stock market.
Jerremy:Tell me what your beliefs are around it, what fears you may or may not have.
Jerremy:Uh, just in, in regards to investing in stocks and trading in the markets.
Robyn Ivy:I tend to, um, go like this and pretend there's
Robyn Ivy:no such thing as any of this.
Robyn Ivy:That's been my relationship to all things financial and all things
Robyn Ivy:relative to financial at all.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Um.
Robyn Ivy:Yep.
Robyn Ivy:I, I
Jerremy:That's fair.
Robyn Ivy:nothing to do with it.
Robyn Ivy:It terrifies me, but I've learned it, it terrifies me from a place
Robyn Ivy:of not trusting myself, right?
Robyn Ivy:Like the, the same, the same fear as an A DHD kid of like,
Robyn Ivy:I'm not gonna figure it out.
Robyn Ivy:I'm gonna have to know more than I know I'm gonna have to be a
Robyn Ivy:different person to deal with.
Robyn Ivy:It took me a long time of working through a lot of that fear and I think
Robyn Ivy:I still have a long way to go with it.
Robyn Ivy:Um, but I did get smart enough to get a financial advisor and a bookkeeper and
Robyn Ivy:offload it, but then it left me feeling like I'm not in relationship with it.
Robyn Ivy:else is in a healthy relationship with it, which is better than no one being in a
Jerremy:Sure.
Robyn Ivy:it.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:like, progress.
Robyn Ivy:Someone is in relationship with this, but it also gets to be me one day
Robyn Ivy:not hoping they're doing a great job.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:I agree.
Jerremy:Well, that's, I, I, I appreciate you sharing that with us, and I think
Jerremy:truthfully, that's probably most people's.
Jerremy:Interaction with it, and it's just scary.
Jerremy:Uh, I love your awareness of your like, oh wait, I'm scared of it, because
Jerremy:it's probably gonna be a me thing.
Jerremy:And that really is.
Jerremy:I, I think beau.
Robyn Ivy:percent gonna be a me thing.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:Well, that's beautiful awareness though.
Robyn Ivy:more potently.
Robyn Ivy:It's not only gonna be a me thing, it's gonna be a shame thing.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:It's not.
Robyn Ivy:It's like, oh no.
Robyn Ivy:The only thing I'm ever turning my back on is when it's gonna be a
Robyn Ivy:shame thing that then is gonna also potentially be compounded with an
Robyn Ivy:action of consistency thing about a thing I don't feel that much self-trust
Jerremy:Mm. Love that.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Most
Jerremy:that.
Robyn Ivy:I'm like, let's go Buffalo towards a storm I'm in.
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:Well, I hope to have more in depth conversations with you about it because
Jerremy:I, I believe that there's a lot of healing that goes into that journey
Jerremy:because the more we understand that world, the more we'll understand about
Jerremy:ourselves, we start removing and working on and healing that shame a little bit.
Jerremy:Because really a lot of times it's, uh, it'll be linked to the shame of pleasure.
Jerremy:Um, 'cause that's what, that's one of the things that money brings into our lives.
Jerremy:It brings a lot of pleasure.
Jerremy:Uh, it doesn't have to,
Robyn Ivy:Oh
Jerremy:it can bring a,
Robyn Ivy:me that he, um, he has to spend like, that you, that he has to send, spend
Robyn Ivy:a certain amount of money just for fun.
Jerremy:yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Like one of your rules.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:Well, I mean, WW when people say money that
Robyn Ivy:that part, by the way.
Jerremy:No.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:There's no evidence so far to suggest that I am not good
Robyn Ivy:at spending it for fun, actually.
Jerremy:Yes.
Jerremy:Yes.
Jerremy:Well, uh, and, and those, those are both interesting words, right.
Jerremy:Spending and fun.
Jerremy:Um.
Jerremy:Because, yeah, I, I, fun can be pleasurable, but giving
Jerremy:money away can be pleasurable.
Jerremy:Um, building, building churches, building schools, building hospitals,
Jerremy:figuring out ways to circulate it.
Jerremy:Um, spit out ways to not spend it, but just earn more of it.
Jerremy:'cause if you give more, you're gonna get more.
Jerremy:That's the other beautiful law, right?
Jerremy:Scriptural law in all text is like, you're gonna be provided for the more you give
Jerremy:and the more you provide for others.
Jerremy:And that's just also a beautiful recognition.
Jerremy:So I think that, uh, it's just a beautifully interwoven
Jerremy:aspect of our lives.
Jerremy:'cause everyone needs money, right?
Jerremy:It's not as important as oxygen, but it's right up there.
Jerremy:It is really, really close, uh, oxygen and currency.
Jerremy:And when you start playing in both of those worlds, you will start opening
Jerremy:yourself up for a lot of opportunity, for healing, for expansion, for growth.
Jerremy:Because yes, to, to make a lot of money and to keep a lot of money, we have to
Jerremy:become really, really unique containers.
Jerremy:We have to be a container of someone that can hold all other
Jerremy:things as well in our life.
Jerremy:Uh, not only relationships, but also, um, a assets, right?
Jerremy:Other, other assets.
Jerremy:Not necessarily only physical assets, right?
Jerremy:Intangible assets, things that we really step out into the world
Jerremy:and we're ready to be a big, bold beacon and say, Hey, look at me.
Jerremy:'cause again, that's what money does, is it amplifies, it amplifies
Jerremy:everything that it touches.
Robyn Ivy:Totally.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:Heck yeah.
Robyn Ivy:a lot of folks in the financial world talk about how money loves speed,
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Robyn Ivy:something about money and, and quickness and I, I, my
Robyn Ivy:coaching practice, when people are bumping up against self-trust.
Robyn Ivy:That tends to be where they then wanna slow down the speed.
Robyn Ivy:'cause they're like, I don't feel like I can move quick at a place of not trust.
Robyn Ivy:And I was like, well then that's gonna be a real setup when
Robyn Ivy:it comes to money for people.
Robyn Ivy:If money loves speed, but not trusting ourselves creates a, uh, this, this
Robyn Ivy:natural inclination to slow down or stop altogether, then we're also
Robyn Ivy:financially then energetically putting ourselves in a bit of a pickle.
Jerremy:Yeah, I love that.
Jerremy:So true.
Jerremy:Yes, correct.
Jerremy:Speed is really what, what speed means, is velocity, and then velocity
Jerremy:generally also means volatility.
Jerremy:And so you've heard that phrase before, right?
Jerremy:The stock market, that's a tons of volatility and people are
Jerremy:like, oh, it's too volatile.
Jerremy:Don't put me in it.
Jerremy:Volatility is incredible.
Jerremy:If you know where you're going.
Jerremy:Most people don't know where they're going.
Jerremy:They don't have the clarity, they don't have the intention to sit down and
Jerremy:go, okay, this is where I wanna go.
Jerremy:You live in Rhode Island, so if you're gonna come out here to
Jerremy:Las Vegas and visit me, you're probably gonna be in an airplane
Jerremy:that's volatile because it's fast.
Jerremy:But you're gonna choose that overriding a bicycle.
Jerremy:And it's because one is extremely efficient and the other one's not.
Jerremy:I think the, the speed of money is also characterized by the speed of ideas, the
Jerremy:speed of intention, the speed of creation.
Jerremy:I do secretly judge people when I take them out to a dinner or, or a
Jerremy:lunch on how fast they can order food.
Jerremy:You know, how, how long they take to just interact with the world,
Jerremy:how long they take to interact with the decisions to move.
Jerremy:Because having speed of clarity and speed of intention and speed of thought
Jerremy:does mean that you are, and you have the capacity to create a lot more income,
Jerremy:money, current to or opportunity.
Robyn Ivy:is there any cost to that that you've noticed?
Jerremy:Yes, absolutely.
Jerremy:Because most people will never make the decision.
Jerremy:They think they will and then they just go, uh, and then they don't.
Jerremy:Because I, I've heard
Robyn Ivy:No, I mean
Jerremy:ca
Robyn Ivy:fast, like is there to going quickly the opposite.
Robyn Ivy:Like is there any cost to being to, yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Is there any cost to going that quick?
Jerremy:uh, I'm sure there is.
Jerremy:Yeah, I'm sure there is.
Jerremy:I think probably the cost would be you get too wrapped up in it and you have
Jerremy:the inability to be, most individuals are extremely good at human doings, but
Jerremy:they're not very good at human beings, so that's probably ultimately the cost is
Jerremy:like they don't know how to turn it off.
Jerremy:And they're always flying.
Jerremy:They're always moving.
Jerremy:They're always perpetually just going, and they're never here,
Jerremy:and they're never in the now.
Robyn Ivy:Okay.
Robyn Ivy:So how do you manage that as somebody who's really good with the energy
Robyn Ivy:and speed and velocity of money, but also is good at the being part I.
Jerremy:The best answer I have to that question is I have to schedule it.
Jerremy:And I don't know if that's the right or the wrong way, but I have to put on, I
Jerremy:have to put on the calendar and I have to tell my brain and my body and my mind
Jerremy:this, Hey, this is where we're going this weekend or this day or these hours.
Jerremy:You're going to sit down and do X, Y, z. I go to seminars very, very often.
Jerremy:We'll ask people, Hey, who here, raise your hand if you ever, if you have
Jerremy:ever worked for 12 hours straight?
Jerremy:And everyone's like, yeah, right?
Jerremy:They like badge of on.
Jerremy:They're like, I've done that.
Jerremy:And they get all excited.
Jerremy:And then I ask, who here has ever prayed for 12 hours straight?
Jerremy:And all the hands go down and it's just this, it's just really
Jerremy:this idea of, Hey man, you know, what are you working so hard for?
Jerremy:Why?
Jerremy:Why are you spending all this time and energy?
Jerremy:Like if you just get closer to.
Jerremy:Whatever ultimate being that you believe in, you probably will be able
Jerremy:to close the gap between time and space.
Jerremy:And if you close that gap between time and space, it's probably
Jerremy:gonna happen for you faster.
Jerremy:That's one of the things I love about Joe Dispenza.
Jerremy:When he says, uh, the, the unknown, like the closer you get to the unknown, the
Jerremy:absolute unknown, the, the nothingness.
Jerremy:When you and that nothingness become one, everything in your life will
Jerremy:manifest into reality instantly.
Jerremy:For me, that nothingness is everythingness, which is, uh, god or the
Jerremy:universe or love or ultimate perfection.
Jerremy:And I think that's just such an awesome, awesome realization where
Jerremy:the closer you get to that, the faster things will happen for you and I
Jerremy:wanna get there as much as possible.
Jerremy:So I think that's a, uh, a fun place to play in.
Robyn Ivy:I heard these, um, these two women, and I, I forget their
Robyn Ivy:names, but I, I, if I'm, if I remember correctly, they work for Harvard and
Robyn Ivy:they're organizational, psychologists, and they were talking about how, um.
Robyn Ivy:That in organizations that people, uh, they say slow it down to speed
Robyn Ivy:it up, that that was like a big business ideology for a while.
Robyn Ivy:Like slow it down to speed it up.
Robyn Ivy:And they said, no, that's not true.
Robyn Ivy:Speed it up to speed it up.
Robyn Ivy:But they said the reason that people don't speed it up in organizations
Robyn Ivy:is similar to the reason we don't speed it up in our own lives.
Robyn Ivy:Because if we don't trust the foundations of our systems, of our support networks,
Robyn Ivy:of what we have in place, she was using the analogy of like a dock pillar where
Robyn Ivy:like, you're not gonna go running out on the pilings if you don't trust that
Robyn Ivy:they're in place, but if you know they're in place, you could like haul ass down the
Robyn Ivy:piling no problem, but without believing that they're, they're trustworthy,
Robyn Ivy:you're gonna take it much slower.
Robyn Ivy:And I was like, that's such an interesting thing, especially if we're talking about
Robyn Ivy:the relationality of the money or our own trust that like we can go fast.
Robyn Ivy:Because we've got the systems in place because we trust our financial person
Robyn Ivy:or we trust our knowledge of the stock market, or we trust our ability to
Robyn Ivy:reassure ourselves if we make a bad move that day and lose money like that,
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:just abandon ourselves.
Robyn Ivy:Right.
Robyn Ivy:I thought that
Jerremy:Yeah,
Robyn Ivy:an interesting parallel.
Jerremy:yeah.
Jerremy:I love that.
Jerremy:I do.
Robyn Ivy:How do you set yourself up for the kind of, uh, balance of rigidity
Robyn Ivy:and flexibility that you need to thrive?
Jerremy:Well, I think that also comes down to, for me, again,
Jerremy:again, just being extremely clear.
Jerremy:I think the person that's most clear and the most intentional will win the
Jerremy:fastest or the most, or the most often.
Jerremy:Perfect example.
Jerremy:If someone says, Hey, I want more money all, all the time, like
Jerremy:that's their perpetual daily mantra.
Jerremy:I would love to have more money.
Jerremy:I would love to have more money If you get a dollar that is more.
Jerremy:And, but they're not satisfied with a dollar.
Jerremy:So now they're upset.
Jerremy:And then they get this anger of not being grateful or not being in gratitude.
Jerremy:And the way I structure rigidity and also flexibility is one of my mantras,
Jerremy:I think, is follow my rules like an engineer, and know when to break them.
Jerremy:Like an artist, there's always these ebbs and flows, right where you have to be,
Jerremy:you don't wanna be the most dangerous.
Jerremy:Uh.
Jerremy:Gardener in a war, you wanna be the most dangerous warrior in a garden like it.
Jerremy:There needs to be this balance.
Jerremy:I mean, that's what it all always is.
Jerremy:There has to be some level of equilibrium.
Jerremy:Uh, another incredible, for me, just parallel that really shifts in my
Jerremy:life in a huge way, just if not that long ago, three or four years ago.
Jerremy:I heard the story differently for the very first time.
Jerremy:The story about the two wolves.
Jerremy:The, there's this Chinese father, or, you know, speaking to his younger son
Jerremy:and his younger son's asking about life and death and good and bad.
Jerremy:And the dad says that every man, every person has two wolves inside of them.
Jerremy:The light wolf and the dark wolf.
Jerremy:And the dark wolf is there for destruction and terror and creating.
Jerremy:Anger and making things happen through force.
Jerremy:And then the light wolf is happy and joyful and prosperous, and
Jerremy:they're always battling each other.
Jerremy:These two wolves are always fighting each other, and the young boy looks
Jerremy:at his dad and says, which wolf wins?
Jerremy:And the dad says, whichever wolf you feed the most.
Jerremy:Now, I had never heard the word the most before.
Robyn Ivy:Hmm.
Jerremy:I always heard whatever wolf you feed, but in reality,
Jerremy:we all have those two wolves.
Jerremy:We all have to feed them.
Jerremy:And so I do a lot of work with men because men, the brokenness
Jerremy:of any country is in direct proportion to the brokenness of men.
Jerremy:And if men do not have this way to internally heal, to understand and
Jerremy:to adopt, it's never women who have created this, oh, I'm gonna go start a
Jerremy:giant war for more land and more power.
Jerremy:Right?
Robyn Ivy:We know it's not us.
Jerremy:No.
Jerremy:Yeah, yeah.
Jerremy:It's, it is not women.
Jerremy:Right.
Jerremy:Like it's that internal.
Robyn Ivy:sure that wouldn't be how we do that.
Jerremy:We would figure out another way.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:We're pretty sure we could figure out another path to
Jerremy:Right.
Robyn Ivy:and resolution.
Jerremy:But, but really that, that's a gorgeous recognition that I
Jerremy:think so many people just skip over.
Jerremy:It's like, listen, it's not, it's the dudes like they're the
Jerremy:ones that are ruining everything.
Jerremy:If there's something that needs to be ruined, leave it up to a
Jerremy:really angry, egotistical guy and he'll figure out a way to do that.
Jerremy:Like, that's the big challenge.
Jerremy:And
Robyn Ivy:of two, like now grown men, I also think, boy, without
Robyn Ivy:the men, like men get a bad rap.
Robyn Ivy:And I'm always like, I always joke that I'd be the first one Vijo, like
Robyn Ivy:voted off Vagina island because I really stand for men and all that.
Jerremy:yeah, of course.
Robyn Ivy:that presence, without that, it would, we would just all be different.
Robyn Ivy:So
Jerremy:That's the balance, right?
Jerremy:That
Robyn Ivy:important parts of this.
Jerremy:agreed.
Jerremy:Agreed.
Jerremy:And that's the balance.
Jerremy:The balance is the recognition that we have to be in both places.
Jerremy:Uh, we have to know how to do both things.
Jerremy:We have to know how to live in the both worlds.
Jerremy:Men need to learn how to heal deeply and to to pull their ego
Jerremy:out and to pull it into light.
Jerremy:And also be, uh, a, a protector.
Jerremy:A protector of women, a protector of children, a protector of
Jerremy:themselves, a protector of their kingdom, the castle, and they have
Jerremy:to be totally okay to become more.
Jerremy:Grace to become more kind.
Jerremy:And I think having the balance and having the blend between all of those
Jerremy:things we're talking about, which is really the energetics of spirituality,
Jerremy:of beingness, of who individuals are.
Jerremy:And you start blending all of that and putting it into money,
Jerremy:into investing, into politics.
Jerremy:That is my four corners of like, I can talk about this stuff all day and
Jerremy:it jazzes me up and it lights me up.
Jerremy:'cause I know that there are solutions in in this box.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah, I mean, I think that I've noticed, uh, with women, a pa the
Robyn Ivy:pattern of like, there's a pattern of not feeling safe and not feeling worthy.
Robyn Ivy:And those two things then ripple out into, I mean, that becomes
Robyn Ivy:almost like a filter through which everything, like, it's not safe to
Robyn Ivy:put themselves out there in the world.
Robyn Ivy:It's not safe to start the business.
Robyn Ivy:It's not safe to ask for that amount of money.
Robyn Ivy:then on the guy side, I see a lot of, not enoughness, like it's, I'm not enough yet,
Robyn Ivy:so I can't, I don't feel good enough about myself, so I can't start the thing, do the
Robyn Ivy:thing, be humble or be compassionate or open, It's such a shame to me because if
Robyn Ivy:we could see ourselves from that position, reassure that in each other, then just
Robyn Ivy:keep going out and doing the thing, our contributions and our, what we could
Robyn Ivy:create here altogether, the problems we can overcome are, it's, it's mind blowing.
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:What, what problem would you like to overcome?
Jerremy:If you had to pick one that you could just solve tomorrow, what would it be?
Robyn Ivy:Hunger.
Robyn Ivy:Hunger to me, hunger.
Robyn Ivy:Because if you're hungry, I don't care what plans you have,
Robyn Ivy:I don't care what, I don't care.
Robyn Ivy:Everything else, if you're hungry, it's over.
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Robyn Ivy:not doing anything if you're
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Robyn Ivy:Uh, so I don't, yeah, I just, I can't fathom for me
Robyn Ivy:how it's 20, 25 and five decades later people are still hungry.
Robyn Ivy:Like, to me, this was a problem that should have been solved
Robyn Ivy:by the time I was like 12 years old or long before I got here.
Robyn Ivy:So the fact that people are still hungry, the fact that we could have this
Robyn Ivy:many billionaires and hungry people.
Robyn Ivy:Something is, something is glitchy in the matrix still
Jerremy:Y yes.
Jerremy:And not only billionaires.
Jerremy:So we have this many obese people in the us
Robyn Ivy:correct?
Jerremy:like so someone's eating a lot of food.
Robyn Ivy:have GLP if we have GLP ones and hungry people.
Robyn Ivy:It's astounding.
Jerremy:Yes.
Jerremy:Agreed.
Jerremy:Like there, like to, to that aspect.
Jerremy:Like what, how are we getting at this incorrect?
Robyn Ivy:And I also like, I looked around my house a couple months
Robyn Ivy:ago and I thought, wow, this is interesting that you can be overwhelmed.
Robyn Ivy:I could be overwhelmed by the amount of stuff I have to the point that I'm like,
Robyn Ivy:I gotta get rid of some of this stuff.
Robyn Ivy:It's so, this is a lot.
Robyn Ivy:And then simultaneously have any sense of lack in my life.
Jerremy:Mm.
Robyn Ivy:Like how interesting.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:things can sit there together.
Jerremy:Yep.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Jerremy:I love that.
Robyn Ivy:But hunger, to me, it's always hunger.
Jerremy:Okay.
Robyn Ivy:else, don't know.
Robyn Ivy:If you're hungry and you're cold, don't have somewhere to stay.
Robyn Ivy:But you can always, like, you can, you can find somewhere to stay.
Robyn Ivy:If you can't eat, if you have nothing to eat, you're, what are you figuring out?
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Robyn Ivy:How about you?
Jerremy:Love that.
Jerremy:Um.
Jerremy:Well, I think my main, I believe my main focus is going to be to radically change
Jerremy:the educational system in the US because
Robyn Ivy:system?
Jerremy:Come on Robin, let's go.
Jerremy:Be careful.
Jerremy:You're gonna enter my best friend status real quick.
Robyn Ivy:That's
Jerremy:I,
Robyn Ivy:yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Get
Jerremy:I agree.
Jerremy:It's like,
Robyn Ivy:friends.
Robyn Ivy:I can come rummage through your cabinets.
Robyn Ivy:If I need a
Jerremy:cool,
Robyn Ivy:way, I'm not,
Jerremy:cool.
Robyn Ivy:in the acquaintance level,
Jerremy:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jerremy:I want snacks.
Jerremy:I'm with you.
Jerremy:I'm with you.
Jerremy:Uh,
Robyn Ivy:get one on the Uber Eats, and we're both grabbing the same, yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Mm-hmm.
Jerremy:it.
Jerremy:Love it.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:I, I think the, the, our educational system is killing us.
Jerremy:And it's making us, uh, scared to put kids in school.
Jerremy:It's making our kids less smart.
Jerremy:It is making our generation and our populace fatter and larger
Jerremy:and bigger and more complacent and more docile and less creative.
Jerremy:And it's helping us memorize things that we never use.
Jerremy:And I believe that if we sit down and we help our children and we
Jerremy:help our teachers, and we help our staff become extremely creative
Jerremy:thinkers, I believe that a lot of our problems do slowly dissipate.
Jerremy:Just as an example, I mean, you mentioned hunger.
Jerremy:Obviously that is a component of many, many, many things.
Jerremy:But if you have enough smart people in schools, in high schools, middle
Jerremy:schools, colleges, universities sit down and go, alright, let's creatively
Jerremy:think of these solutions and let's really, really figure out how.
Jerremy:This one company, this one product, this one creation can solve that issue.
Jerremy:And we are rewarded as a community globally, but also also here in the US for
Jerremy:just extremely creative thinking often.
Jerremy:I think that that's something that really does make a huge, massive impact.
Jerremy:And we're not, we're not doing that in school, right?
Jerremy:Our schools are,
Robyn Ivy:think it's very difficult to get rid of everything that
Robyn Ivy:fosters creativity in a system, and then expect the people to
Jerremy:mm-hmm.
Robyn Ivy:side with their most creative thinking.
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Jerremy:Yeah,
Robyn Ivy:Right.
Robyn Ivy:I am like, well, if we don't support creativity anywhere, and if we don't
Robyn Ivy:cr if we don't support, um, feedback and unique perspective and socra
Robyn Ivy:conversations, opportunity for people to have various opinions and debate.
Robyn Ivy:Gosh, gosh.
Robyn Ivy:Debate, did I say debate in
Jerremy:Oh, my good.
Jerremy:Uh oh, oh, oh.
Robyn Ivy:my no Lord.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:What a dangerous concept.
Jerremy:Agreed.
Robyn Ivy:you know, how are we gonna do anything creatively?
Jerremy:Yes.
Jerremy:Yeah, I'm with you.
Jerremy:And so I, I can see it extremely clearly is we do make huge changes
Jerremy:there where we actually have that well, 'cause AI is coming, it's coming.
Jerremy:And if we don't sit down as a nation and go, alright, AI overlords,
Jerremy:'cause those, those are the people that Dave battles with every day.
Jerremy:He battles with the AI overlords.
Jerremy:If we don't, if we don't start getting ready and prepared as a, as a nation
Jerremy:and also a civilization for what is coming down the pike in 15 to 30 years,
Jerremy:people aren't gonna have, they're, they're not gonna be aware to how to
Jerremy:have jobs, to how to, to how to create.
Jerremy:They're gonna be extremely complacent.
Jerremy:And Wally, the kids show the movie that is wildly accurate and hopefully
Jerremy:never going to happen, but probably is a 200 year dystopian from now.
Jerremy:That's gonna start happening if we don't get extremely creative on making changes.
Jerremy:Now
Robyn Ivy:and Idiocracy is sad that we just watched that a couple
Robyn Ivy:weeks ago together in Miami, and I said, because I, he's like, have you
Jerremy:it's a documentary.
Robyn Ivy:no, I, what we said.
Robyn Ivy:I was like, in what universe is this actually more like how it is?
Robyn Ivy:And then it is.
Robyn Ivy:It just is.
Robyn Ivy:It is so much more like how it is, which is terrifying.
Jerremy:Terrifying.
Jerremy:Terrifying.
Jerremy:I mean, Crocs is a publicly traded company now, and that's what they're all, all
Jerremy:the people wearing Crocs in the whole movie, and they were doing it as a joke.
Robyn Ivy:on Friday night and I turned to my friend and I was like, I don't
Robyn Ivy:know, I, I don't know what drug this is.
Robyn Ivy:They're on, I don't, I cannot identify whatever substance has run through
Robyn Ivy:this place that we didn't take.
Robyn Ivy:Everybody was at a frequency I had.
Robyn Ivy:I'm like, I don't know.
Robyn Ivy:I know most of them, and I don't know what this is, but people were in some
Robyn Ivy:kind of weird of half Kensington, you know, like they were just kinda
Jerremy:Hmm.
Robyn Ivy:there.
Robyn Ivy:I'm like, this is not normal, but this is very much like that movie.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Jerremy:what was your,
Robyn Ivy:feel like it's a rally cry for people who are excited
Robyn Ivy:and still wanna make a difference.
Robyn Ivy:Like, how about now
Jerremy:yes, agreed.
Jerremy:Dave, what was your, the,
Robyn Ivy:the team now.
Jerremy:the big one that stood out to you in Idiocracy?
Jerremy:Dave,
Jerremy:was it the pro wrestling president?
Dave:I, I, I mean the, like, every piece of that thing is like, really,
Dave:really, this was 20 years ago and here we are living this thing.
Dave:So it's
Dave:there.
Dave:I mean, like, it's, it's, it's bonkers, you know,
Jerremy:Yeah.
Dave:think that this is actually happening.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:the fact that it was 20 years ago is one thing, but the
Robyn Ivy:fact that it was intended to be the most absurd thing on that would ever
Robyn Ivy:potentially, ever and ever, ever happen
Dave:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:it, and it's now more like, not this so alarming.
Jerremy:Dave, chances we could get the creator writers on the show.
Jerremy:Just have a conversation with him.
Robyn Ivy:Dax Shepherd,
Dave:And
Robyn Ivy:probably.
Dave:Mac, uh, no, it's, um,
Jerremy:It is possible.
Jerremy:I think it's possible
Dave:It's a mike
Robyn Ivy:Oh, Mike Judge.
Robyn Ivy:Got it.
Robyn Ivy:Mm-hmm.
Jerremy:do,
Dave:I'll, I'll reach out.
Robyn Ivy:Get on that, Dave.
Jerremy:Get on it, Dave.
Dave:more people say yes than not, so Yeah.
Jerremy:Yeah,
Robyn Ivy:know.
Jerremy:that's right.
Robyn Ivy:Um, Jerremy, what do, when you look at the landscape of your life
Robyn Ivy:in this financial container, what do, what do people, are people get wrong?
Robyn Ivy:Like, where's the paradigm shift in that?
Robyn Ivy:You know, like if people are, where are they so close, but getting it all wrong.
Jerremy:That is a very beautiful question.
Jerremy:Most individuals, in my opinion, have this extremely u uh, extremely bad belief about
Jerremy:the co, the combination of time and money.
Jerremy:And so here's what I mean by that.
Jerremy:They feel like there is so much time they can do it later.
Jerremy:And that is true.
Jerremy:So that that's a truth.
Jerremy:And since there is so much time and you can do it later, if you start doing
Jerremy:it now, the later becomes amazing and says you can start whatever you want.
Jerremy:You can start at 67, you can start at 72, you can start at 84.
Jerremy:The earlier you start though, the better and easier it becomes.
Jerremy:That is the truth.
Jerremy:Most people that I connect with, work with discuss, they go, uh, you
Jerremy:know, one day, one day, one day.
Jerremy:And every time I go through my calendar, I never see, one day I see a Monday, right?
Jerremy:Monday's on the calendar, some days not on the calendar, but
Jerremy:some Sunday's on the calendar.
Jerremy:It's like we gotta start doing this as soon as humanly possible.
Jerremy:'cause you said it, money loves speed.
Jerremy:Quick, fast example.
Jerremy:Tons of people will say.
Jerremy:This is a pretty, pretty open statement.
Jerremy:I'm not blowing your minds here.
Jerremy:Apple's done innovating.
Jerremy:They've created the exact same thing for years, and that company's gonna slowly die
Jerremy:well for the last two and a half years.
Jerremy:So if you go back to just July, 2023, I'm just gonna pick a really random time
Jerremy:that's, you know, relatively relevant.
Jerremy:July of 2023 on Apple, and until today's price over the last two and a half
Jerremy:years, apple's up 47% just in value.
Jerremy:47%. They make $90 million net an hour.
Jerremy:It's a lot of money.
Jerremy:It's a lot of money.
Jerremy:Uh, Google is up 85% since April of this year.
Robyn Ivy:Wow.
Jerremy:there, there are some companies that we,
Robyn Ivy:unbelievable because of the messaging that AI's taking over
Robyn Ivy:and nobody's using Google, right?
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Jerremy:I know precisely, yeah.
Jerremy:That, that messaging is just wrong.
Robyn Ivy:how it appears.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:How.
Jerremy:It's almost never how it appears.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:Um, so like, it, it's just a really, really, really wild and beautiful
Jerremy:belief and awareness process that when we start looking at and navigating
Jerremy:the process, like we need to start investing into assets now because
Jerremy:you, you do have enough money.
Jerremy:If you have a dollar, you have enough money to start investing into assets.
Jerremy:And if you start now, as in today, buying $1 worth of something and
Jerremy:you can obviously exponentially it to however much you need to
Jerremy:or want to, or have ability to.
Jerremy:But, uh, we, we just hired an incredible woman to work with myself and my wife
Jerremy:and my family to help us out with our time and to give us more leverage.
Jerremy:And she, uh, her name is Nelly.
Jerremy:She's really, really sweet.
Jerremy:And I'm getting her, I mean, she just really just started working with us like
Jerremy:days ago, and I've already given her a Robinhood account and I'm already teaching
Jerremy:her how to invest into stocks because I know her background and her background
Jerremy:is an amazing background, but it's one of, I need to work really, really hard
Jerremy:for money and I need to spend six hours a week and order to provide for my family.
Jerremy:And although that is a truth, right?
Jerremy:We can and we should.
Jerremy:And there, that's an a possibility.
Jerremy:What if instead of working 60 hours, we hired her for 40 hours and is paying
Jerremy:her the exact same amount she was making when she was making 60 hours.
Jerremy:And then I'm also gonna teach her how to make more money by investing and
Jerremy:taking some of the capital that we pay her and taking a portion of that.
Jerremy:Obviously we all have bills in life.
Jerremy:You take a portion of that and you put it into the Googles, the NVIDIAs, the apples,
Jerremy:the Teslas of the world, and guess what?
Jerremy:The value of your, your value, your net worth is going to increase because
Jerremy:those companies are gonna increase because you're betting on America.
Jerremy:And I think that's really what people don't understand is when you're buying
Jerremy:assets, you're, you're betting on the largest, most powerful, most profitable
Jerremy:country that in, in the existence.
Jerremy:And if you think that's gonna go away, that's, that's fine.
Jerremy:You're entitled to that belief.
Jerremy:I'm just telling you that you're mathematically wrong.
Jerremy:It's not gonna go away.
Jerremy:It's gonna get bigger.
Robyn Ivy:it.
Robyn Ivy:So putting your money somewhere else is like a way to make sure you're right,
Robyn Ivy:which is a terrible idea if winning that it means you don't have a country.
Jerremy:Oh my goodness.
Jerremy:The quote of the date.
Jerremy:Yeah, that's it.
Jerremy:Like, what do you like if you're like, no, I don't wanna do that, so I'm just gonna
Jerremy:put all my money into like this bunker and guns because the zombies are coming.
Robyn Ivy:Okay.
Jerremy:Well, so that means you're gonna be fighting zombies in 20 years.
Jerremy:Like, that sucks.
Jerremy:Like, that's not a great world.
Jerremy:Let's, let's, let's prevent that from happening.
Jerremy:Let's prevent, prevent the zombies from attacking.
Robyn Ivy:direct it towards everybody's wellbeing.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:There you go.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:all right, so three things that came up when you were saying that is I
Robyn Ivy:could feel my own like, oh, Lord, well, how am I gonna learn everything?
Robyn Ivy:I would have to learn about this, because this feels like, I don't
Robyn Ivy:know what it's taken to learn about parenting 24 years deep.
Robyn Ivy:My friend is a lot, and I'm like,
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Is it, do I have to that my inner Sisyphus is like, I'm gonna have
Robyn Ivy:to grab another boulder and hit the road.
Robyn Ivy:So how can you pacify that fear in me in a
Jerremy:yeah.
Robyn Ivy:I am?
Jerremy:The, the same way my dad did.
Jerremy:Where it is as easy as you want it to be, that's, that's what investing is.
Jerremy:Um, you don't have to learn everything to know something.
Jerremy:You kinda like anything in life.
Jerremy:I asked you, how can I connect with my dad who's no longer with us?
Jerremy:There's probably a easier way, a quicker way that you could guide me
Jerremy:into, and then there's a probably a more in depth way where if I
Jerremy:needed to go all the way into it.
Jerremy:So that's, that's with Juujitsu.
Jerremy:All right.
Jerremy:I'm a practitioner, juujitsu.
Jerremy:I love doing it.
Jerremy:It's an incredible martial art.
Jerremy:Uh, I'm nowhere close to good.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:I'm nowhere close to good.
Jerremy:I'm terrible.
Jerremy:I'm a 16 year white belt, but I, I love it.
Jerremy:It's awesome.
Jerremy:It's really fun.
Jerremy:And just like there's levels, I mean, there's learning, chess, picket,
Jerremy:pick anything in life, pickleball, tennis, football, basketball, soccer.
Jerremy:You can become an incredibly, incredibly proficient at it
Jerremy:and become a professional, like an immaculate professional.
Jerremy:Or you can become someone who's aware and.
Robyn Ivy:But the difference is that with money, if you get it wrong,
Robyn Ivy:people have a whole lot of ugh, about getting that wrong in a way.
Robyn Ivy:You don't care if you get the arm bar wrong in Jiujitsu, I think.
Jerremy:Yeah, they, they, they can, and I think 'cause wrong is
Jerremy:back to the whole time thing, right.
Jerremy:It's gonna, they'll, they'll be right if there's enough time.
Jerremy:Generally I would say 97%
Robyn Ivy:Ah,
Jerremy:the time they will be correct over a long enough time horizon.
Jerremy:And so when you're putting too short of a time horizon, when I first
Jerremy:started trading and doing the stuff in the stock market and day trading,
Jerremy:my family literally lit the same week.
Jerremy:We're like, alright.
Jerremy:So are you a billionaire yet?
Jerremy:Like a bi a, a billionaire?
Jerremy:No, I have started learning finance a week ago.
Jerremy:Um, and yeah.
Jerremy:Yeah, it's just, it's just this fascinating asset and it's
Jerremy:just fascinating realization.
Jerremy:I do think that really ultimately for all of us having the ability for it to, to
Jerremy:make things simple, to make it easy, um.
Jerremy:For me to you, Robin would be Yes, baby girl, something.
Jerremy:Go for it.
Jerremy:Yeah, of course.
Jerremy:Um, to make it easy would be invest into companies that you know, that
Jerremy:you use, that you understand, and it could be any, any amount of money
Jerremy:that, that's really the quick answer.
Jerremy:And if you do it repeatedly, it will grow.
Jerremy:So every time you spend, uh, a Netflix account, put the same amount
Jerremy:of money into the Netflix stock.
Jerremy:Anytime you buy an Apple iPhone.
Robyn Ivy:a great idea.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:Uh, buy some Apple stock.
Jerremy:Anytime you pull up Google to search, Google, put some money into Google stock.
Jerremy:Every time you get into it, every time you make a car payment, like
Jerremy:most people make a car payment to whoever a finance company, Ford,
Jerremy:gm, Tesla, somebody, Honda Toyota.
Jerremy:Put a little bit of money into that stock.
Robyn Ivy:Hmm.
Jerremy:If you use the realization that we can all be owners rather than
Jerremy:just consumers, your money will grow.
Jerremy:So that's a very, very powerful statement, but that's a statement of 100% accuracy.
Jerremy:You're betting on America, America's gonna win by the companies that you
Jerremy:use, interact with on a daily basis, and your money will grow over time.
Robyn Ivy:I love that idea, and I really appreciate you framing that in
Robyn Ivy:a way that's very pedestrian relatable.
Jerremy:Yeah, sure.
Robyn Ivy:makes sense.
Robyn Ivy:It makes sense why we would do that.
Robyn Ivy:I can hear the kind of, um, flags of social responsibility of where do I
Robyn Ivy:wanna, do I wanna be investing in that?
Robyn Ivy:And at the same time, I think, well, if you're using them, then
Robyn Ivy:you might wanna be checking in with yourself about that anyway.
Robyn Ivy:Like, if you don't want to be investing in Apple, then why
Robyn Ivy:do you have an Apple iPhone?
Jerremy:Come on, champion.
Robyn Ivy:want to be
Jerremy:Oh,
Robyn Ivy:in
Jerremy:oh.
Robyn Ivy:then maybe you don't want to put gas in your car.
Robyn Ivy:Like I, you know, you're accountable to your money.
Robyn Ivy:You know, you're accountable to your decisions.
Robyn Ivy:Like, this is life folks.
Jerremy:Yes, yes.
Jerremy:And yes.
Jerremy:Drink Starbucks or someone else.
Jerremy:It's up to you.
Jerremy:I mean, you're all making decisions.
Jerremy:We're all making choices.
Jerremy:And exactly what you said, we make the social determination and what's
Jerremy:responsible and what is valuable for us.
Jerremy:As an example, I do not personally invest into oil companies.
Robyn Ivy:Mm-hmm.
Jerremy:Why?
Jerremy:I, I just think it's dirty.
Jerremy:That's all.
Jerremy:That's it.
Jerremy:I just, it is physically not clean.
Jerremy:So if there's someone comes into my house and spills a bunch of oil on
Jerremy:the floor, I'm gonna notice it, right?
Jerremy:That's all.
Jerremy:I just don't think it's super, super clean.
Jerremy:So I also do invest in, uh, renewable energy systems, right?
Jerremy:So I have large investments into solar, into solar companies,
Jerremy:into solar technology, because.
Jerremy:To me in my, I have no clue how Solar Works.
Jerremy:Couldn't explain it.
Jerremy:No idea.
Jerremy:I don't know how my cell phone works really.
Jerremy:Like I just click a button and it things happen.
Jerremy:I, how are we not all using the sun?
Jerremy:I haven't learned that yet.
Jerremy:I No clue.
Jerremy:Can't figure it out.
Jerremy:It's just this free energy source that just hangs out there.
Jerremy:No one has to pay for.
Jerremy:We just boop, put on Bang energy.
Jerremy:It is kind of mind blowing to me that we don't do that.
Jerremy:Uh, and, and it's not because oil is gonna run out and there's a, there's a
Jerremy:finite supply and there's only a little bit, and that I don't even come from
Jerremy:it from that perspective, I come from the perspective of there's people that
Jerremy:have to work really, really, really hard and tirelessly to do all of those
Jerremy:things that need to be done for oil.
Jerremy:Where you have this ginormous thing.
Robyn Ivy:ways.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:Hello.
Jerremy:Like, and you could just create solar energy for everyone.
Jerremy:Go, you, you, we, Robin, we can go to the corner of, of Utah or Nevada.
Jerremy:And, and take out the whole corner of the state and, you know,
Jerremy:500,000 acres in solar field and all of America's powered by solar.
Jerremy:That's all it would take.
Robyn Ivy:I
Jerremy:I mean, that's a
Robyn Ivy:you see the level of innovation that they have, but it's, again, it kind
Robyn Ivy:of goes right back to the willingness to think creatively, to problem solve
Robyn Ivy:with a way that keeps everybody, um.
Robyn Ivy:You know, it's not a communist idea to consider everybody's wellbeing when your
Robyn Ivy:amount of land is finite, but it's, you know, it's easy to prepare it that way
Robyn Ivy:here, but it's a matter of understanding The resources are limited and
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:need is different.
Robyn Ivy:You know, like great.
Robyn Ivy:Use 'em as parking lot cover.
Robyn Ivy:Why not
Jerremy:Yes.
Robyn Ivy:wants their car to be cool anyway.
Jerremy:Agreed.
Jerremy:Yep.
Jerremy:Precisely.
Jerremy:And I think that those are just, you know, anyway, like that's things for me
Jerremy:to understand and be, be aware of is it has nothing to do with certain beliefs.
Jerremy:It has everything to do with, I want things to be easy,
Jerremy:fast, efficient, simple.
Jerremy:And the faster we get there as a society and the more we think about it and the
Jerremy:more we debate and have open discussions where I can just simply disagree with
Jerremy:you, like me and Dave don't agree on everything, although we agree on a lot
Jerremy:of things, um, we can have a beautiful, very easy commonality where it's like,
Jerremy:oh, cool, man, I think you're wrong.
Jerremy:And you think I'm wrong.
Jerremy:And high five, dude, it's love you.
Jerremy:You're awesome.
Jerremy:But that's like playing poker or playing chess or playing a sport.
Jerremy:There will be a loser.
Jerremy:It's okay.
Jerremy:It's not, doesn't mean that you're a bad person.
Jerremy:It means that you played a game over a period of time and someone
Jerremy:lost because of the result was you lost and someone else won.
Jerremy:Like, that is all right.
Jerremy:It's okay for that to happen.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:I really value multiple perspectives.
Robyn Ivy:I spent like 30 years as a commercial photographer, and the entire career is
Robyn Ivy:essentially wrapped around the idea that there is no one way to look at anything.
Robyn Ivy:And in fact, if you're only looking at it one way, you're really
Robyn Ivy:missing 99% of other possibilities of how to see something.
Robyn Ivy:it's true about ourselves.
Robyn Ivy:It's true about like what we think is possible with our money.
Robyn Ivy:Like if you are also in your fifties, like I learned when I inherited
Robyn Ivy:some money a handful of years ago, it's like you can start at any time.
Robyn Ivy:Like you, your own thinking about money or your ability to
Robyn Ivy:invest is the only limitation.
Robyn Ivy:Because if you tell yourself that, you're gonna have to pick up the
Robyn Ivy:Boulder and start going, that's also just a thought you're having.
Robyn Ivy:It's not necessarily how it has to be.
Robyn Ivy:That's just one thought you chose to have about what it would be like
Robyn Ivy:to start getting healthy with money.
Robyn Ivy:But that
Jerremy:Mm.
Robyn Ivy:to change as like, I'm gonna not have ice cream
Robyn Ivy:at 10 o'clock in the morning.
Robyn Ivy:Right.
Robyn Ivy:It's
Jerremy:Or at night.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Or whenever.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Or you
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:however.
Jerremy:Exactly.
Robyn Ivy:knowing that we're really like a few thoughts away
Robyn Ivy:from it not being a problem.
Robyn Ivy:I,
Jerremy:Yeah.
Jerremy:Precisely.
Jerremy:I, I'm, I'm gonna openly share this with all of your listeners too.
Jerremy:The, the week of like, Christmas week, I'm, I'm, I just eat cookies
Jerremy:and sugar and just get fat and just do nothing for, for a long time.
Jerremy:I like it.
Jerremy:I enjoy it.
Jerremy:But again, to the point of, I think it should be absolutely okay where we all
Jerremy:can just sit down and just relax and have a good time and, and do our thing.
Jerremy:But that's balance.
Jerremy:That's the, you can schedule it.
Jerremy:That's the creation ahead of time.
Jerremy:That's the thought process ahead of time.
Jerremy:That's what all these conversations are almost always gonna keep coming back to
Jerremy:is clarity of time, clarity of purpose, clarity of intentionality, knowing how
Jerremy:to sit down, think and grow rich, right?
Jerremy:The book is not called Work Harder to Make More Money.
Jerremy:It's called Think and Grow Rich.
Jerremy:And so we have to be able to use our thoughts and our
Jerremy:thoughts can become things.
Jerremy:And if thoughts become things, then our words create our world.
Jerremy:And that's why I think it's called Universe, right?
Jerremy:You are the verses that we speak out loud.
Jerremy:So if you start speaking to yourself, I do love money.
Jerremy:Money is incredible.
Jerremy:What an amazing tool that money is for myself and for my family.
Jerremy:I want to interact with it and grow it and expand it because it's so awesome and it's
Jerremy:incredible everything that it does for me.
Jerremy:You start speaking like that and using those words often daily,
Jerremy:guess what's gonna happen?
Jerremy:You're gonna start having a better relationship with money
Jerremy:and your wealth is going to grow.
Robyn Ivy:And noticing, I mean, no matter what your circumstances are right now,
Robyn Ivy:noticing the abundance of blessings.
Robyn Ivy:And I don't mean that in some kind of like hashtag blessed silliness.
Robyn Ivy:I mean, truly looking around on a cold day and recognizing like, you are lucky
Robyn Ivy:enough to have a warm place to be.
Robyn Ivy:You do have someone to call.
Robyn Ivy:There is something to eat in the fridge.
Robyn Ivy:There is, you know, we're so resourced in ways that we just
Robyn Ivy:don't say thank you enough.
Robyn Ivy:You know, if, if any of this were to go, we'd care about it.
Robyn Ivy:So in the moment that we have it, it's really a practice.
Robyn Ivy:I think it's a devotional practice to just say, I'm gonna be as
Robyn Ivy:consistent with my acknowledgement of this as I am of the lack of it.
Jerremy:Mm.
Robyn Ivy:know, you spent all this time being aware of what's not here.
Robyn Ivy:What about the practice of like, thank you for what is here.
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Robyn Ivy:you for what is here.
Jerremy:Yes.
Jerremy:Well, you appreciate appreciates as Oprah Winfrey said.
Jerremy:So you, you, you don't, you don't pray or ask or hope from
Jerremy:a place of want of I have less.
Jerremy:Right?
Jerremy:It's not from a place of lack.
Jerremy:It's from a place of love.
Jerremy:Thank you for what I have.
Jerremy:Uh, I would love more.
Jerremy:It's a powerful statement.
Jerremy:Like, I love what I have.
Jerremy:It's incredible.
Jerremy:I want more.
Jerremy:And it doesn't have to be for you.
Jerremy:You can have more.
Jerremy:I want more from my cell phone.
Robyn Ivy:resourced
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Robyn Ivy:we feel, the, the easier it is to give it away.
Robyn Ivy:You know,
Jerremy:Let's go.
Robyn Ivy:on what we don't have, we're not gonna be giving that much.
Jerremy:Yes.
Jerremy:Yes.
Jerremy:And that's, I love those conversations because I do get a little slack sometimes
Jerremy:when I get on stage and I say, you're selfish if you do not make enough money.
Jerremy:Because who are you really, truly, ultimately providing for?
Jerremy:If you make $40,000 a year and hey, no hate on it.
Jerremy:I've, I was there for a long time in my life, right?
Jerremy:The first 20 years of my life, 19 years of my life,
Jerremy:guess who I was helping?
Jerremy:No one.
Jerremy:I, I mean, maybe I would tip a waitress 15%, 10%, but probably not.
Jerremy:I would find ways to kind of skirt around tips, and I would do things
Jerremy:that I, I didn't have that much money, so I couldn't circulate it.
Jerremy:I didn't ever go to
Robyn Ivy:Hmm.
Jerremy:charity galas.
Jerremy:Right.
Jerremy:I never donated money ever to anyone for any reason.
Jerremy:I didn't have any, so it's okay to go.
Jerremy:I love what I have.
Jerremy:I love my $48,000 a year.
Jerremy:This is amazing.
Jerremy:Thank you.
Jerremy:God.
Jerremy:Give me more.
Jerremy:I know, I know there's some available, I know there's more available.
Jerremy:Let me figure out how.
Jerremy:Gimme the insight, gimme the wisdom, gimme the knowledge, the path,
Jerremy:the opportunities, the blessings.
Jerremy:Give me more because I know more is available.
Robyn Ivy:I love it.
Jerremy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:because otherwise what are we doing?
Jerremy:Mm-hmm.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah.
Robyn Ivy:Cool.
Robyn Ivy:Jerremy, where can people find out more about you and learn more
Robyn Ivy:about you and connect with you?
Jerremy:I have an awesome social media team.
Jerremy:Um, if anybody connects with me, they could reach out.
Jerremy:Jerremy Newsome on all platforms.
Jerremy:My name is built with two Rs, so my dad's name was Jerry
Jerremy:and stands for Jerry and me.
Jerremy:Uh, Jerremy and for my podcast solving America's Problems Anywhere that you
Jerremy:listen to podcasts and on all the socials, I would love for people to reach out and
Jerremy:connect with me on, on that podcast so we can continue grow, growing the platform,
Jerremy:helping people see, know, and understand how we can all be a part of the solution.
Jerremy:How education is going to be the root fix for almost everything that we are
Jerremy:struggling over, and that we worry over.
Jerremy:Because the more we educate, the more we are aware, the more we are aware,
Jerremy:the more we can have a an extreme clear path on where to go to how to fix it.
Jerremy:And we love having guests on the show.
Jerremy:It was an absolute honor and privilege to meet you, and I am quite confident
Jerremy:that we'll see each other when I pop up to Rhode Island in a month from now.
Robyn Ivy:Yeah, I am looking forward to it and I really appreciate the chance
Robyn Ivy:to guest, host on here and hang out with you guys and share the message.
Robyn Ivy:I think it's a really beautiful opportunity to speak into wholeness
Robyn Ivy:because it's not, uh, it's no different if it's money or if it's your faith,
Robyn Ivy:or it's your relationship or your marriage or the way you parent, or
Robyn Ivy:the way you wanna serve our community.
Robyn Ivy:If we're not all in this together, then we're really not gonna make this happen.
Jerremy:That's right.
Robyn Ivy:Hmm.
Robyn Ivy:Thank you for this.
