Episode 143

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17th Dec 2025

Prison Turned Him Into a Harvard Reformer (Full)

60% of people released from prison are back inside three years, burning $80 billion a year. Quan Wynn did 22 years for murder, walked out, went to Harvard, and now runs entrepreneurship bootcamps behind bars through Defy Ventures. He proves the system can flip lifers into CEOs—if we let it. Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley go deep on why most “reform” is theater and what actually drops recidivism hard.

Timestamps:

  • (00:00) Incarceration Nation – the stats that should piss you off
  • (01:49) Remote setup + introducing Quan Wynn
  • (02:11) Coaching female inmates on business plans
  • (02:56) Why entrepreneurship works when nothing else does
  • (04:23) The real roadblocks to prison reform
  • (05:04) Scaling programs that actually move the needle
  • (06:02) Success stories that sound fake but aren’t
  • (07:25) Quan’s 22-year murder sentence → Harvard turnaround
  • (15:00) Why America still cages people instead of rehabbing them
  • (16:37) Life after release is harder than the sentence
  • (21:21) What you can do

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Transcript
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Jerremy and Dave sit down with Quan Wynn—a man who served 22

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years for murder and walked out a Harvard-trained reformer running

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Defy Ventures in Southern California.

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Right after coaching women inside Chino prison, one inmate asked Dave

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what he’d tell friends about his day.

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He said, “Just went to another entrepreneur pitch day—same as

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I’ve done at the best startups and top business schools.”

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She stopped him cold—“You’re not gonna say it was in prison?”

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Dave told her no.

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Because the pitches he heard inside were as sharp as any he’s coached

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in Silicon Valley or New York.

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[surprised] Quan spent over two decades locked up—yet he’s the one

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proving the system can be flipped…

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What did he figure out that the other 2.3 MILLION inside still

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haven’t been given a shot at?

Jerremy Newsome:

Dave, what are we addressing and solving today?

Jerremy Newsome:

My man?

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In this week's episode of Solving America's Problems, we confront a

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system that costs 80 billion a year.

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Yet 60% of released prisoners return within three years a

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cycle that demands change.

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We're joined today by Qu Wynn, who turned 22 years in prison

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into a mission for second chances.

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As executive director of Defi Ventures, Southern California, a

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certified gang expert, and a Harvard Executive Education graduate.

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Kwan leads programs in entrepreneurship and personal growth.

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His memoir, Sparrow and the Razor Wire inspires thousands

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with power of internal change.

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And that's this week on solving America's problems from punishment

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to possibility With K Juan Win.

Jerremy:

Okay.

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On our way to an amazing Vietnamese restaurant, we just left the

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Women's Correctional Facility here in Chino, California.

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Dave, we are in a van with a very special guest.

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This is our first

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remote recording.

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Our first remote recording, which we were trying out and we

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were very excited about quality.

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Kwan is joining

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Quan tell us what experience we all just embarked on together.

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We were there for a

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business coaching day through the five ventures program There was.

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It's the halfway point of or seven month training program where

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it's career readiness, personal development, and entrepreneurship

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and it was really remarkable.

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Dave, one of the favorite things that you told me, a quick little story,

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fill me in when you were talking to the one individual lady, the EIT, asking

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about the resumes and the thing that stood out in particular about how many

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times you've done this in the past.

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She asked me like,

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what my

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day.

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What was, like, what would I tell people out, when I left this an amazing event.

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And I would, I said, actually, it's boring.

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Maybe even a little funny.

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I'd say I went to an entrepreneur event.

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We did pitch coaching, we did resumes, we some business models

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around ideas and that's about it.

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And she stopped for a She said, you're not gonna say it was in a prison.

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And I said, no, I've done this all over the world.

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I've done this at.

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The highest level at the best business schools in the world.

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The biggest startups the everywhere.

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I've done this hundreds and hundreds of times in New York and DC and

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LA and San Francisco and overseas.

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And this is exactly what.

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We do, and you all are entrepreneurs.

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I, this is e exactly it.

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And she stopped really?

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And I'm like, really?

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Like I, I didn't hear any that the fact that it's in a prison was

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irrelevant and Right.

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That's one of the hardest things about entrepreneurship is.

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Is just having somebody listen.

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And I think it was extra special in this environment because you're seeing

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And once you get that a across that that it's the same that you're

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not being treated any different.

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You're not being, like this isn't, this isn't dumbed down.

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This isn't, this is this is business.

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It.

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It really clicked and it elevated the

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Right.

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Because in this series we are working on focusing on and solving the

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problem and the challenge that faces America, which is prison reform.

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And one of the main, one of those main topics is what goes on inside of a

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prison and the different aspects of that.

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And that's why we have Quan here, because Quan happens to be a specialist in that

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he has studied it, he's been a part of it.

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He has not only been reformed, but has had reformed so many other people.

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Quan is this something that can be done in any prison or any jail in America?

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This

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educational Environment where people are pouring into their future best

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self?

Quan:

Yes.

Quan:

I think that's the great thing about our program is it's very scalable.

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It's a 2000 page curriculum.

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We're in the process actually of piloting a digital

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format of.

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The, our program onto the,

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porting it onto the tablets that are inside California's prisons.

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'cause every person incarcerated has the access to the tablets.

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So that's what we are in the process of piloting right now.

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But even if they don't have access to tablets, it's a

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curriculum that we put on books.

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And then we have a model where it's a facilitator goes into the prison and

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teaches the curriculum, and it has the coaching day at the halfway point.

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And it culminates in a business pitch competition that's judged

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Shark Tank style by volunteers

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Shark Tank style.

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That's cool.

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Yes.

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That's really cool.

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What does the winner receive?

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The top five winners receive IOU.

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First place gets 500, second place gets 400, 300, 200, 100.

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So they receive those when they come home.

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Yep.

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One of our EITs

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I remember in San Diego, he had pitched

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a honeybee business.

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He had this huge fascination with honeybees, and I remember he came

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down home during the pandemic, his.

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$500 that he won for first place, helped him buy his first colony and he sent

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us some honey during the pandemic.

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That was the best honey I've ever tasted.

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I had the honeycombs in it and everything with the colonies, he was

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able to make several other colonies.

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And the last I heard from him, he was, he said he was coming up with some new

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stuff, with some certain wax and all this.

Quan:

Wow.

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So he everything.

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Yeah, he did everything honeybees.

Jerremy:

That's really cool.

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So why isn't.

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This program or programs like it in every prison across the

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country?

Quan:

I think the main thing is the, there's the narrative of lock

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someone up and throw away the key.

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Or also another narrative of what does it really mean for rehabilitation?

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Or perhaps the narrative or

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the belief.

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Do we believe in second chances?

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Do we believe that once a criminal, always a criminal?

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So I think there's.

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There's different narratives that prevent us from even thinking of the possibilities

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of why if given opportunities, given options during incarceration, there

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could be ways for people to step into better versions of themselves.

Dave:

And Quan, can you,

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You're such a model of this.

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Can you give us just a bit of your background

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and your story and.

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Like what

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this journey has been

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like for you?

Quan:

Yeah.

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High level I'm formerly incarcerated myself.

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I've served 22 years of my life in correctional facilities,

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and I ultimately went.

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To prison with a 15 year to life sentence.

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For secondary murder.

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I shot and killed a man by the name of Minu in Los Angeles.

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At the time I told myself it was a gang related crime, that things

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happened because I was in the gang, that it was during my prison journey

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when I started to think about like, how did I end up this way?

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Am I meant to die in here?

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Because to give you context.

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Although it was a 15 year to life sentence, the state of California

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had not paroled one single lifetime prisoner since 1977.

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And it wasn't until a woman

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that was incarcerated that fought it all the way to Supreme Court, her name was

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Sandra Lawrence, and that was when the first ruling came out in, I think 2007.

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So 30 years later, they had 30 years of data where she was able to argue

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what's the difference between a life without possibility sentence.

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And a life sentence because California was not paring anybody.

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And that kind of opened the MOG door where then the courts came

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back and said, okay, there has to be some type of nexus to the crime.

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And they gave this list what they called the factors of suitability

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as never been arrested, had higher education never been arrested, had

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higher education didn't get in trouble.

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No.

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No violent offenses.

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And then they had on the other side of the list factors of un suitability

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where it says multiple arrests write-ups during incarceration,

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violence during incarceration.

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And I fell on that other list.

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So I go, this does, these factors don't apply to me.

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Or 98% of us in here anyway.

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But then men started to litigate it and the door started opening

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and I think governor Brown in

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2012 released one of the first.

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Or 2013 released one of the first prisoners after they were found suitable.

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But then the governor continued to take the dates.

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I'm sorry he didn't release 'em.

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The governor continued to take people's dates.

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'cause it's almost a political thing.

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'cause it became where if the governor signs off, then that

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makes him look soft on crime.

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So that under politics the governor doesn't wanna look soft in crime, so

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he has to continue to pull the date.

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Yeah.

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Send it back.

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And the guy goes back to the parole board or the woman

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goes back to the parole board.

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And this continues to happen until Sandra Lawrence was ordered.

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Leased from the courts and then that started to happen to other men and women.

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And that kind I, that was the backdrop for when right around I

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I at the time was on a different set, was always been a bookworm, so I was

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just read a whole bunch of books.

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I love entrepreneurship while I was incarcerated and I have this

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tendency of going down rabbit trails when I'm reading a book.

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Like I go now, acknowledgements, see who wrote it.

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And then who influenced them?

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And then I read up on that.

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So right around that time, I remember I became very fascinated on books

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around stories around the saints and in particular stories about saints that had

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failed in their lives, but had gone on to create these legacies and these orders.

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And it just became this other rabbit trail.

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And I started reading books on spirituality, personal development,

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mindfulness, and then all of this, I would have to say, became like a perfect storm

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in my head where I. One day he was just on a prison yard and just said like, why do

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I have to view like prison as punishment?

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Why can't this be a place where I can begin to remake myself even

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if I'm supposed to die in here?

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And of course, the answer from the universe come back and said, yeah you can.

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And I wanna say that's where I, my awakening began.

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Like I remember I was on the yard that day and the sun was

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barely coming over the hills.

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I could feel the warmth on my skin, on the blades of.

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Grass, I could see the individual drops a dew.

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And up above me in the razor wire I heard a sparrow chirping.

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And I say the sparrows have probably been chirping my whole prison term.

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I did not hear it, but that day I heard it, and from that

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day is where my journey began.

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And I saw men that perhaps not, some not even awakened some of them much further

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along, but then suddenly I was like, oh, these are human beings that I'm here

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to connect with and here to learn from.

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And.

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Began to

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change the fabric of my existence in prison.

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One of the first things I did was I checked into therapy 'cause

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my father passed away when I was 13 years old from leukemia.

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I never was able to grieve properly, grieve him,

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and that's the first thing I did.

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I checked into therapy,

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began the grief and loss process, but then also became fascinated with

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Elizabeth k Ross's model on grief and loss and, then being the rat the bookworm.

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I read a bunch of hers writings and read other things, and I realized there's

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a lot of men that were incarcerated that could not process their grief.

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There's a lot of mourning, whether that's losing their loved ones or

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being separated or even something seemingly normal in prison as being

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transferred from one prison to another.

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But these are, that means these are friendships and relationships

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that you're getting removed from, and you have to form new.

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Ones and they're unable to process it.

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So I saw this need of, hey, how do we give a space for men

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to begin the grieving process?

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And I submitted a syllabus to the prison psychologist, and we started

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the prisons first ever grief and loss group, which I remember being in that

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first group and seeing men be able to shed tears or be able to just speak

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about like a some loss in their life.

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And, that's where I think I would've say, like that's where I felt fulfilled

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and I felt there was meaning in my life.

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And that's where it just began this hunger for, and thirst for wait, what

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else can I do to make impact in the world?

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And then being the bookworm once again, I get books on group psychodynamics,

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childhood development, and we start building other curriculum.

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And the next thing I know I'm able to inform and help build curriculum

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inside the prisons for per.

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Like for self-help and get involved with a bunch of them.

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And then, yeah, it just began this whole process where I realized here I am

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in some forgotten corner of the world, but I am able to do God's work and

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I'm doing impactful work and nobody knows about it, but that's okay.

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'cause I know the impact I'm able to make while

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I'm in here.

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And that's just how I lived for the last three, four years of my

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existence inside Solano State Prison.

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and then I went in front of the parole.

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It and I just share with them like

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my own understanding, self understanding of why I, I

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joined a gang, of why I thought

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it was okay to shoot and

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kill somebody.

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Why I thought it was okay to still inflict acts of violence

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on others while incarcerated.

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And they said that they felt I was no longer a danger and they

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paroled me and I got out in 2015.

Jerremy:

Amazing.

Jerremy:

That's incredible, man.

Jerremy:

Thank you for sharing that story.

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And I heard you say the word impact.

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A few times.

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So in this short interview, and thank you for

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doing this on the road, we'll definitely do another one as well.

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What impact do you feel this

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country could make in prison reform?

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If you had to

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choose one thing that would create that MO the most impact, what would it be?

Quan:

These are our community members.

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These are our fellow human beings coming home.

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So if we invest in them while they have been removed from society, I

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think the question we have to ask ourselves, what are we doing with people

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that have made poor choices in life?

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We're removing them from our communities, but now what?

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What are we gonna do?

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Are we just gonna lock 'em up or we're not going to, we're going.

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To deprive them of any type of way to come, become better versions

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of themselves, or should we let 'em know Hey, we're removing you

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from this community, but these are the things that we want to do.

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Let's address what made you go down this path in the first place?

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What, let's address, what made you think it's okay to

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break our social norms?

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Or and what are the issues around it?

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And get some type of, help them develop some type of self

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understanding and some type of.

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Of personal responsibility for their choices and everything that's happened.

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And

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yeah then suddenly there's people inside that yes, they did, made terrible choices.

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They may have done terrible

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things, but inherently if we invest in them and we tell 'em that

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yes, we Can believe in them, that I'd say the potential for them

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coming home and doing work, impactful work in the world is pretty exponential.

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I see it in our man.

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And women that are graduates.

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Like for them it's all about how do I give back, how now I know the harm that I've

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caused, how do I give back to society?

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So you would be able to have people that

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I think would really come out and continue to help change the

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fabric of the world out here.

Jerremy:

Why do you feel recidivism is so high?

Jerremy:

I.

Dave:

Can I tag onto that?

Dave:

Is anything working

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about the prison system?

Dave:

Is there.

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Like why is this recidivism so high?

Dave:

Is anything working?

Quan:

I would have to say

Quan:

no.

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There's, our nonprofit is in existence because there is

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no budget for rehabilitative programs in California's prisons.

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So that's why we're in existence.

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There's no,

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the prison system was the California system.

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It's built to.

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Punished and it's built to put people, lock people away.

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And while they're away, if there's no resources to help

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them become better people, if there's no resources to help them

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develop some type of understanding in themselves.

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There's no resources for them to not only come to some type of

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self-acceptance and self-forgiveness, but then come to a place where they can

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believe in a brighter future for themselves because of believe,

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like there's a way for them even after they're incarcerated.

Quan:

Because think of all the systemic barriers.

Quan:

Yes.

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Now, once they come home, they have they're considered a convicted

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felon once they come home.

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Then when they apply for certain jobs.

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They'll be barred from getting certain licenses.

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They're when they're trying to rent out a home, the background check comes

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back and then they get turned down.

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So

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there's all these systemic barriers that continue to hold them

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accountable for something they've already served their time for.

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And then there's, so there's not too many options for them.

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And then if they're unable to be employed and if they're unable to make

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a living and they're unable to raise a family, then unfortunately some of them

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will have to turn back to what they only know unless of we had given them

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opportunities while they're incarcerated.

Quan:

Hey, let's dream of a different world in which you could have existed or a

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different you that could have lived in the world that you don't see right now.

Jerremy:

Do you mind sharing with our listeners one of those moments

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for you when you filled out a

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form and

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you had to check that box and what kind of happened?

Quan:

Yeah.

Quan:

I remember during the Pandemic, 'cause after I came home I launched

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my first company six months after a commercial cleaning company.

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And during the pandemic I had about seven employees, no eight

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employees at the time, and.

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Alright, then the country got shut down overnight.

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70% of our contracts were canceled because all the country was on

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lockdown, so they didn't need

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Janitorial services at commercial buildings.

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And so then I filed for relief under the paycheck protection program.

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But when I got to question f. Five

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came up that question again.

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Have you ever been convicted of a felony?

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And Right when I clicked, yes.

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The platform grayed out and it wouldn't let me continue

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because I had answered yes.

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And I remember, I was like I felt sorry for myself about 45 minutes.

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And I was like, this is unfair.

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Like why this is great that we have this program this is to give relief

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to small business owners and I'm a tax paying citizen and why am right?

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Me and like my team being punished for something I did like over 25 years ago.

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But so

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I don't know how

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CBS Money Watch found out and.

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CNN and they started calling me.

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And the next thing I know, the A CLU had contacted me.

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And then the Five Ventures did a class action lawsuit with

Quan:

the A CLU and we sued the SBA.

Quan:

So we successfully changed that language in it where I think they had to show.

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Before there was no nexus to oh, anybody that's convicted

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of a crime did not qualify.

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But then they changed it to only if someone in that was convicted of financial

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crimes couldn't apply for the paycheck

Quan:

protection program.

Jerremy:

Wow.

Jerremy:

Thanks for doing that.

Jerremy:

Thanks for not only.

Jerremy:

Facing an opposition, but finding a way to push through it because that's

Jerremy:

really, that's what makes America

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great.

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Same energy, the same drive, the same focus of, just because

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I have an opposition doesn't mean that has to be the only

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answer.

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And to your point, if the question is there,

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maybe we can either phrase it or realize that

Jerremy:

if someone has faced some.

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A

Jerremy:

massive challenge and opposition in their life, but they didn't let that

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stop them and they did rehabilitate, and they did come back into this

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country and they're, they are a citizen.

Jerremy:

They are a tax paying citizen.

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They're someone who's really putting in their time and energy, having

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employees and creating employment and helping other individuals.

Jerremy:

Why couldn't they also get assistance as well?

Jerremy:

So really remarkable story, man.

Jerremy:

Thank you for sharing.

Jerremy:

Dave.

Jerremy:

Any final questions for our man Kwan here while we have him?

Dave:

Would people who haven't been incarcerated be surprised about

Dave:

inside the system?

Quan:

God.

Quan:

That's where can I go with that?

Quan:

They would be surprised inside the system, but we're talking about

Quan:

the human element, that there is

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a lot, of.

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Are good souls in there

Quan:

that they would be surprised that there are not many

Quan:

opportunities for people that are incarcerated.

Quan:

They would be surprised that there's not much investment like there.

Quan:

It's, it feels almost

Quan:

shortsighted because these are people that are coming home to

Quan:

our communities and there's.

Quan:

No, there's no way to make, continue to make our community safer if we're not

Quan:

investing in them while they're inside.

Jerremy:

Yeah.

Jerremy:

Again, back to your point and a word you've used a few times as well invest.

Jerremy:

And it doesn't have to be just financial.

Jerremy:

A lot of people probably do think that the word investing is only tied to financial

Jerremy:

aspects, but in real, in reality, we can invest into relationships, we can invest

Jerremy:

into humans, we can invest into education, we can invest into education reform.

Jerremy:

We can invest and spend money or time or

Jerremy:

energy into the rehabilitation and the betterment of just humans.

Jerremy:

'cause that's really what I'm hearing you say as I'm hearing you say that.

Jerremy:

Yeah.

Jerremy:

Just because someone is incarcerated, they do not lose their humanity.

Jerremy:

They simply did something that probably potentially other people have also done

Jerremy:

that they simply had not got caught for.

Jerremy:

And that's something that I experienced today in in our

Jerremy:

exercise or empathy exercise where that there were definitely a few

Jerremy:

instances and a few questions that were posed that simply show that.

Jerremy:

A lot of times it very well could be for maybe less serious offenses.

Jerremy:

The luck of the draw of who and who does and does not get caught,

Jerremy:

who does and does not seek and find themselves in a punishable event.

Jerremy:

And for someone to face dehumanizing

Jerremy:

and unfortunate judgment from other people related to how they have once interacted

Jerremy:

in the past with something I think is a. extremely un fortuitous and something

Jerremy:

that we can at least create and bring light to that awareness and light to

Jerremy:

that just the recognition that it exists and that we can do something about it.

Jerremy:

And I'm very happy to know that you are doing

Jerremy:

something about it and we are doing something about

Jerremy:

it.

Jerremy:

Just even having this discussion and bringing it to people's awareness

Dave:

I, also heard.

Dave:

That the $80 billion that the United

Dave:

States spends on locking people up every year, that's a

Dave:

hundred percent wasted money.

Dave:

It does not work.

Jerremy:

Yeah.

Jerremy:

I would probably agree with you on that.

Jerremy:

I think that's there's something that's really dramatically, drastically

Jerremy:

wrong here, and I think the more that we go into this, Dave, and the

Jerremy:

more that we have incredible guests.

Jerremy:

Yeah, remarkable questions and really peer and get more insight and also

Jerremy:

collaborate and collect more evidence.

Jerremy:

We'll also come up with more solutions to this problem that's facing this

Jerremy:

country\ that we are gonna solve together on solving America's problems.

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Solving America's Problems
Solving America’s Problems isn’t just a podcast—it’s a journey. Co-host Jerremy Newsome, a successful entrepreneur and educator, is pursuing his lifelong dream of running for president. Along the way, he and co-host Dave Conley bring together experts, advocates, and everyday Americans to explore the real, actionable solutions our country needs.

With dynamic formats—one-on-one interviews, panel discussions, and more—we cut through the noise of divisive rhetoric to uncover practical ideas that unite instead of divide. If you’re ready to think differently, act boldly, and join a movement for meaningful change, subscribe now.