Episode 142

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16th Dec 2025

Big Pharma Wins When You Skip the Kitchen (Full)

You wanted cheap calories and magic pills, so the food and pharma giants built exactly that trap. Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley finish the health series exposing why cooking skills vanished, how “healthy” eating got priced like a luxury, and why the real fix isn’t another reform—it’s you in the kitchen and the community. Personal responsibility, small habits, and zero excuses. The most practical episode we’ve dropped.

Timestamps:

  • (00:00) WDWL Health – what we’re wrapping up
  • (00:31) Why this series even happened
  • (01:24) Looking back at the big takeaways
  • (02:00) Holistic healing vs Big Pharma showdown
  • (06:22) The real cost of eating healthy (and why it feels insane)
  • (09:32) Jerremy and Dave’s own transformation stories
  • (17:25) Why education is the cheat code nobody teaches
  • (27:30) Alternative health paths that actually work
  • (29:18) How your choices screw (or save) your kids
  • (29:47) The systemic mess in healthcare right now
  • (30:36) Personal choices still trump everything
  • (31:59) Insurance insanity and sky-high bills
  • (34:09) ER bottlenecks and scary misdiagnoses
  • (40:56) Personal responsibility – no more coping
  • (47:36) Building community for real change
  • (51:51) Final mic-drop and what to do tomorrow


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Transcript
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In this wrap-up episode of the health series, Jerremy and Dave admit

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they walked in blaming Big Pharma, Big Food, and insurance… and walked

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out realizing the system mostly gives America exactly what it keeps demanding:

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CHEAP calories and quick fixes.

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They dig into the raw numbers on what real food actually costs, why nobody

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ever taught us to cook, and how one mom’s switch to whole foods saved her

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family six figures in medical bills.

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[leaning in] Welcome to Solving America’s Problems.

Jerremy Newsome:

Ladies and gentlemen, we are back.

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I have learned that people love this portion of solving America's problems.

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This portion, specifically being, what did we learn?

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'cause Dave, that's what we're doing, man, over the next few years, we are

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out there to really learn, understand, tweak, adjust, implement, find out what's

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working, and find out what's not working.

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It's a long list.

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Have conversations with professionals, really speak to individuals and

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just really uncover some truth.

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And for you and I learn, and for our listeners learn, it's more about.

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Knowing how to uncover and knowing how to dig deep.

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And I think we did a great job of that.

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This is really the making America healthy again.

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What did we learn?

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And it's gonna be an awesome summary and I'm really pumped for it, Dave.

Dave Conley:

Yeah, four great episodes across, how many?

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Almost 10 episodes, right?

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Maybe a little bit more.

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10 episodes just great people.

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We had Dr. Holden, Dr. Dill.

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We had Nick and his beautiful wife, Rihanna on a separate episode.

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And then Zen.

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Oh my goodness.

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What I know I started one way in this and I ended up in a different place.

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And I think that's the definition of learning, isn't it?

Jerremy Newsome:

Yeah, I think so.

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Going with a belief for mindset, getting some things shifted,

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getting some tweaks, adjustments.

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new understandings.

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One of the big ones, I think, and again, I'm very excited to go back

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through so many of our episodes as we continue to adapt and to grow.

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But one of the ones that does stand out to me in a big way was the

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distinctions in the difference probably between the holistic healing, which

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I would define probably as food and going that route versus what a lot of

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individuals, especially front runners like Mary Williamson for presidency,

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they're stating it's big pharma.

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It's only big pharma.

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They're doing it.

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Take 'em down.

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They're making us sick.

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

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then we blended a lot of the healthcare and the

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insurance aspect as well together.

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But for me, building a bridge between both of those and realizing for you and

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I to truly solve a lot of these problems.

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And do it from a campaign advocacy approach as well.

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Doing this from a, what I'm going to be doing as president, it seems extremely

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clear to me that without question, helping understand change, shift and adapt

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different food ideologies, different food beliefs, and different adaptations of

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food, like how we can eat, where we're eating, how we're eating, how much we're

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eating, when we're eating, these things can be very quickly implemented for

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the most part, without even trying to attack the quote unquote huge behemoth

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of a problem that a lot of people feel would never, ever truly change.

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The big pharma, the big sick care system as it was called, and rather than

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attacking that saying, okay, listen.

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How about we educate and inform and update, and we all tweak and

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adjust our habits, our eating practices, what we know to be true,

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and start focusing on a lot of that.

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That was really a big summation for me from bringing all these together,

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making me feel like there's actually a better solution there than feeling

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hopeless and feeling worried and feeling like we never have a shot.

Dave Conley:

It a hundred percent.

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I think you're right on with that.

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I came in this thinking big bad insurance or big pharma or big food,

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like they're the ones keeping us sick.

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They're the ones keeping us down.

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And

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what I know now is that we are getting exactly what we want.

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We want cheap food.

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So it's going to be GMO, it's going to be full of pesticides because

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that's how you get cheap food.

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Want.

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Healthcare that, basically doesn't work in a lot of ways, and it

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has a lot of perverse incentives because we want it that way.

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we need it to be in a way that is incomprehensible and you don't know

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what to do and you don't know because you're not spending any time on it.

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What I know for sure is that our food and our insurance and our healthcare, they're

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all tied together, and if we solve for one, the other ones are gonna follow.

Jerremy Newsome:

Yep.

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Precisely.

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And I think that was really addressed in all the conversations.

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And yes, of course there's very minute and very individual policies

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and practices that we can change and should change and would like to change.

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It will make things better, easier, faster, quicker, more efficient.

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But get down to the brass tacks, you've mentioned it a couple times

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and we've talked about throughout the episode, throughout the podcast.

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The price of things, you're gonna get what you pay for.

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And a lot of Americans both want and need really inexpensive.

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So they might therefore just be receiving just that if you do not pay

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a lot of money for food, it's probably not gonna be extremely good for you.

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And knowing that not only is that gonna be what's more available, more abundant

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is the cheaper, more processed, more GMO food because the companies wanna make

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money and we're in a capitalist society and we're not gonna take it away from

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them having the opportunity to make money.

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ultimately, we as consumers are deciding what we eat and what we don't eat.

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And we're also gonna decide how much money they make and don't make.

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If we spend a lot less with them as consumers and start focusing more on

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the organic and the individual, and the farmers and the local, we can help

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increase the awareness and decrease the cost through more supply and more demand.

Dave Conley:

So let, I wanna really explore that cost side with you and

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so that I understand it, which is

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when I hear organic, I hear expensive.

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And what I'm also hearing is you're either paying for it now or later.

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And then I did the math on my breakfast.

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I have this most mornings.

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I have some rolled oats.

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I have it with some almond milk and I throw in some chia seeds and a little

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bit of honey and I let it go overnight.

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These overnight oats, and I'm obsessed with them.

Jerremy Newsome:

So good.

Dave Conley:

I didn't know anything actually.

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I was this year old.

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when I found out about these things, like the whole world of overnight

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oats completely miss my radar.

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But now I'm making up for 50 years of not knowing about it.

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'cause I'm having it just about every day now.

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it's incredibly filling.

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And I did all the math on it and every single one of my breakfasts, and I

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throw some blueberries on top of it costs me exactly $4 and 30 cents.

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Now most of that is that organic almond milk that I use, and it

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just occurred to me if you just use whole milk on it, you could probably

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get this down to $2 and 50 cents.

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there's a certain aspect of this of wondering what you're paying

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for and where you're paying for it.

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And I think it was Zen who said that, she ended up saving like a hundred

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thousand dollars in medical bills because her son started eating whole food.

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Which is wild to think about.

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The truth is to me, if we spend more.

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On food.

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As a nation, this is gonna be a crazy concept, but if you spend

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more on food and the food is higher quality, you actually eat less.

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And if you eat less, you will be healthier.

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Now, this doesn't mean like you don't eat at all.

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This just simply means eating less.

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Instead of four to five meals a day, snacking, eating three to 4,000

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calories, which I looked it up in a random study on Twitter the other day.

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I think the average American eats 3,400 calories a day.

Dave Conley:

Wow.

Jerremy Newsome:

So eats and drinks like consumes three, 400 calories a day.

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And so that's why if you always look at the back of a box, whatever,

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they always kinda give their ingredients and they're like, this

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is based on a 3000 calorie, diet.

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3000 calories a lot.

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If I'm doing legitimate, actual, full on training for a competition, I'm

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eating 35 to 4,000 calories a day.

Dave Conley:

And, yeah.

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and so that means like I'm gonna be doing

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some type of very long distance.

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Now, if I'm trying for speed, strength, size and getting really

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beefy and meaty, then I might need to do 4,500 or 5,000 calories.

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It's like that day, right?

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That's a lot.

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But for me, most individuals are eating that and they're

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not running 45 miles that week.

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That's a huge difference because it is science in science out math in

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math, out calories in, calories out.

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If you eat less than you burn, you lose weight.

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End of story.

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Thanks for playing.

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And you have a personal story of this too Dave?

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Tell the world.

Dave Conley:

Wow.

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I think I just turned 40 years old and I was in a job that I hated as a senior

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executive, I smoked a pack of cigarettes a day, and I weighed 330 pounds.

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And it's not like I didn't have the education.

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It's not like I didn't know what I was doing.

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It had been like a lifelong thing.

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I had always been I had always been heavy and, a lot of it was psychological.

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And at some point in my life, I just gave up saying I'm just going to always

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be this way and this is who I am.

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At that same time my wife of 13 years unexpectedly got ill, and a few days

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later she passed away out of the blue.

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She was fine one day and then she was gone.

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And I don't wish that kind of pain on anybody.

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And I would never say that was my moment that, that was the

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big change because it wasn't.

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But what I realized then at that moment, and what started this

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journey of losing 150 pounds, like an entire human, was learning to love

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myself as much as Carol loved me.

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and it was small choices.

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I think it was Sean that said Dr. Dill, Dr. Sean Dill, he said,

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sunlight and exercise and water.

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These are the basic things of life and they're free.

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And it was just that it was a little bit of water every day and

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making sure that's what I was doing.

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And it was a little bit of movement, making sure I was moving and the

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eating better was coming along.

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And it was the small changes that made a big difference.

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And over the course of four years, I lost 150 pounds.

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And that was with the benefit of knowing all of these things, right?

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I think a lot of people are trapped in these, they're on their treadmills, right?

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A hundred percent of their time is already taken up and they

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have their kids to worry about.

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They have their job to worry about, or they don't have a job

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and they're worried about that.

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Or, like they have a million different things and they just need a little bit

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of time to themselves to like decompress.

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And so it's not about not knowing it is making simple, small changes every

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day, taking personal responsibility in it, that changes the whole system.

Jerremy Newsome:

Small steps.

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You have to, in order to do a marathon, you have to take a lot of steps and

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there is no other formula for it.

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There's a lot of steps to be taken and they can be big steps,

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they could be small steps.

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You gotta take a lot of steps, but if you keep doing enough steps,

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there is a finish line at the end.

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And for you, man, I just wanna say congrats on that.

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But you brought up a great point that we did talk about in this series and right

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in this kind of like recap as we talked about, like Sean brought up the six

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best doctors being sleep, water, breath, sunshine, good food, meditation, right?

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or meditation slash nature.

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Doing things that probably ultimately do not cost that much money.

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if any money, but ultimately can revitalize your life and change so much

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and create such a big impact for you.

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What I heard also is the big shift is just drinking more water.

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lot of times as Americans, we feel tired 'cause man, dude,

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freaking life is hard, right?

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You have so much weight and pressure and the cost of living

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is skyrocketing everywhere in the United States of America.

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And we all feel that pressure.

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Every one of us does.

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However, when we gotta keep going and we get energetically

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drained and we get tired.

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And so what do we do?

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We slam our face with a bunch of energy drinks and caffeine and

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coffee over and over and over.

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And while that can work, absolutely.

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And there's even better medical grade available, caffeine and other

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supplements that work even more efficiently than a Monster energy

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drink or a Celsius energy drink.

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There are healthier alternatives out there.

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If you start drinking a bunch of water, you know what happens?

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You don't get as tired.

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It's wild.

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If you drink a bunch of water and you eat a bunch of apples, you don't get tired.

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You have more energy.

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And yeah, you're peeing a lot.

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You are, that's gonna happen.

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But you gotta piece so much you're always moving and your energy's gonna be up,

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and so you, you just have more energy.

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And so the tweaks, the simplicity.

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The thing that I'm so excited about ultimately, and I hope all of our

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listeners hear this, my really incredible big vision and dream is to simply be

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a president that pours in light, love, happiness, and positivity into the world.

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Imagine if there was a voice for the people, of the people that was the

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people, and was able to come on every single day and instead of battling China.

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Or discussing immigrants or talking about all the negative in the world.

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If we just had someone who is championing the vision of the

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people saying, Hey everyone, today's gonna be an incredible day.

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I'm excited for you.

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I'm excited about your work.

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I'm excited about your job.

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I'm excited about your family.

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I hope you have the most incredible day.

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Smile and go.

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Make an incredible impact.

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Imagine if we had someone every day that just poured into the people of this

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country, using to your point, positivity.

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And secondly, easy small steps of change.

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The change does not have to be radical.

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You move more and drink more water.

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Boom, life started changing.

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You gave up cigarettes.

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Bang, life started changing.

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Now you give up cigarettes, you breathe better, you move better, you

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smell better, like your nose smells better and you physically as a person

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smell better, but you also fun.

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Fact, spend less money.

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You do, you spend less money 'cause you no longer are smoking cigarettes

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and cigarettes are There's like a legitimate cost to them and your cost

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of living goes up across the board because of rental cars and hotels.

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If you ever traveling and you smoke, now it's a whole process because

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you have to pay different deposits, healthcare increases if you use tobacco.

Jerremy Newsome:

There's so many random costs to those lifestyles.

Jerremy Newsome:

But the lifestyle that you mentioned, Dave is the majority of people, right?

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There's more than of this country that's gonna face that exact challenge of the

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obesity of, you mentioned the hamster wheel, the treadmill of life, where

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there's just no singular individual that's really pouring in grace and

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care and attention and wisdom and words of affirmation and positivity,

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and I can't wait to be that person.

Dave Conley:

one thing that I don't know if is talked about is the

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amount of prejudice that people get when they're really heavy.

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Like you sense it all the time.

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the world is not built for you.

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The chairs aren't built.

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The planes aren't built the cars, like nothing works.

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And I had risen to a very high level in my field and I had to be exceptionally

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good at it because fortunately I was mostly in, merit It was that much harder

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as somebody who was an overweight smoker.

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when somebody is overweight and they're a smoker, they're like, oh if they're not

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taking care of themselves, how could they possibly be taking care of my company?

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there is so much broken when you're so overweight and knowing that it is

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actually just a slow suicide is one of those things that needs to be brought up.

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you are overweight and it is only you putting the food in your mouth.

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You are the one that's in control.

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oh, also would we say that this week's solving America's

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problems brought to you by water.

Jerremy Newsome:

brought to you by Dave used to be fat and he drink more water and

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move more, and now he's in great shape.

Dave Conley:

Hey, let me ask you a question though.

Jerremy Newsome:

Yeah.

Dave Conley:

Is it, the world here is education.

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Education and there is a lot of responsibility that was built into this.

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Were you ever taught to cook?

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Were you taught to eat well?

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was there ever a high school class of, what is it called?

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Home Act, was there like, if we're not teaching people how to eat or what

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to eat, or if we give them like food pyramids and say, Hey, have all the corn.

Jerremy Newsome:

to talk about that good old food pyramid, like that was, that's

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still in my mind I'll tell you the moment that my food practices started shifting

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dramatically, but more importantly than that, to answer your question, I did have

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one class and I believe it was called.

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LMS life management skills.

Dave Conley:

okay.

Jerremy Newsome:

Best part, it was one semester, so this was in high school.

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And so when I say like a semester's at that time it was an elective.

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so you get to choose an elective twice a year and it's six months long or

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whatever it was, four or five months long.

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And you had two electives a year that you shifted out of.

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So I went to LMS first time I ever saw anyone else have a condom the teacher

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told us how to put a condom on a banana.

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And then there was other things I learned.

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We learned about goal settings and writing down goals, and

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Learn about cooking.

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But to your point, it was very basic, extremely rigid.

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There wasn't a lot in that particular class, they still were putting

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together this overall agenda of here's what you need to do in life.

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Go get a job, go get to college.

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Here's how you achieve in college and here's how you get into college.

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That was probably 85% of the program

Dave Conley:

Wow.

Jerremy Newsome:

was just really understanding and adapting.

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And again, granted I'm, I'm ancient as well.

Jerremy Newsome:

Me and you were both ancient, right?

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You are higher in the sedimentary, you're whatever.

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We're both ancient.

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So we're talking 20 years ago that I'm in high school and I'm sure it's different.

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Hashtag it's not, I have someone in high school now, my kid, and

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it's the same exact thing, right?

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Gabriel's going through the exact same stuff it's all about just how to get

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into college and how to prepare for college and how to beat the college

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system, how to get the SATs and so they can get a good job and whatever.

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in an LMS class, I did a personality assessment.

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And so you do the personality assessment and then the teacher,

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this was like a three week process.

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You do this big test and then at the end you get the results back.

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And then in the test it teaches you what your best job and

Dave Conley:

Alexa, stop thermostat.

Jerremy Newsome:

then they give you a path of,

Dave Conley:

Alexa, turn off thermostat.

Jerremy Newsome:

Sorry, go ahead.

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So you go through this life assessment, like who you are, personality assessment.

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These jobs are gonna be based on, your personality and here's

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what you should do as a job.

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Here's what you should do as a career.

Jerremy Newsome:

Here's the best school path in order to get there.

Dave Conley:

oof.

Jerremy Newsome:

I'm gonna give you two guesses.

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What do you think my, like pers per my personality, what job should I be

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Off the cuff?

Jerremy Newsome:

So I'm just excited to see what you say.

Dave Conley:

oh.

Dave Conley:

I, preacher,

Jerremy Newsome:

Ooh,

Dave Conley:

I would say I don't know.

Dave Conley:

If you were taking that in that era, I would say like I would've

Dave Conley:

slotted you in sales in business, in that world, you're very social

Dave Conley:

and you like talking with people.

Dave Conley:

it's like you would kill it in sales.

Jerremy Newsome:

Yep.

Jerremy Newsome:

That was exactly it.

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

Jerremy Newsome:

literally did my high school personality assessment for me.

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So the very number one career choice was life insurance salesman.

Dave Conley:

Wow.

Jerremy Newsome:

and number two was salesman.

Dave Conley:

and sales.

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I had never really knew what life insurance was until I started

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looking it up and I found that Nationwide Insurance wasn't very far from my house.

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And so I put that on my radar and I did end up eventually working for them,

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which is all fascinating and interesting.

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So circling back to all of this, to your point, no, I wasn't taught cooking, right?

Jerremy Newsome:

Yes.

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There are some high schools that have home ec, which is

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referred to like home economics,

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

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very dryly and basically we'll teach kids like the

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things in life that you need to do, how money works, how income works, how

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your family's balance sheet will look, revenue expenses, credit cards, food,

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how to sew, how to do certain things.

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Yes, all those are very accurate.

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And there are high schools that will teach that.

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But very rarely.

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And again, you ready for this tape?

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It's an elective, which means kids get to choose, oh, Do I do home ec?

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Do I do LMS?

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Do I do pe, do I do art?

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Do I do Spanish?

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They get to pick.

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And that should be, again, the maj, you should pick.

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Do you wanna do reading or math do LMS for sure do home ec for sure.

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There are some people who are more adapted and just, they like

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science more than, they like math.

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They like history more than they like science.

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They enjoy social studies more than they like theater.

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There's people that are like in high school and middle school that are gonna

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be more adapted to doing certain things and they know that at an early age.

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But to your point, I didn't really understand food until 20 18, 20 19.

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And probably 2020, those three years is when I really got it.

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And the reason is because I put down $5,500 in 2018 to do an event called

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the 2 9 0 2 9 Everything event.

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And that's where you climb a mountain.

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This was the snow base in Utah Mountain, and you climb it

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13 times from bottom to top.

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take the gondola down, and overall that's 32 ish miles and

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29,000, 29 feet of elevation gain.

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AKA you have 36 hours to climb Everest, right?

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The equivalent.

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and in order to train for it, I had to look up nutrition and I was asking

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myself like, what do athletes do?

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And this is what I learned about.

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order to perform better, you have to eat better and you actually have to eat more.

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And you have to come up with this cycle and this process.

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And if you're going to really work out and get strong and go, here's how fats work.

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Here's how glucose works, here's how fat storage works.

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Here's how sugar works.

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A lot of people think if you eat sugar, you get energy.

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That's not entirely true.

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In fact, that's very rarely the case.

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You have to train your body use sugar as energy.

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That has to be a trained system, which means your body has to start learning the

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difference between burning fat and burning sugar or burning different types of

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sugar, glucose, fructose, to name a few.

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So ultimately it's really interesting.

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That's when I started learning, 'cause I had to put up a bunch of money to enter

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into an event that was an endurance event.

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It was extremely hard.

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I had to learn all about this stuff.

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All that to say, to finally answer your question.

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No, dude I didn't learn any of this and my mom didn't teach me and she

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really tried, although she probably didn't think I was that interested.

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And truthfully, I probably wasn't.

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I'm sure she said, Hey, Jerremy, would you like to help me learn how to cook this?

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And I probably said no.

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And I just blocked that out in my mind.

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I'm sure that happened.

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But as parents, instead of asking force your 15-year-old

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

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My 15-year-old son wants to play video games every

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single day, every hour of the day.

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That's what he wants to do.

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And that's cool.

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can play some games.

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there are gonna be requirements that I'm gonna give them.

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One of the greatest gifts any parents can give their children

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is adversity they can handle.

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So you have to give them adversity.

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You have to give them a challenge.

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Just yesterday we went to the zoo and I rented these bikes,

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which was a great workout.

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I was really happy to see a lot of other people do these

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bikes, but it was like a bike.

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That was made for four people.

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So you sit on this big bike and every single person can pedal and there's

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Of seats and people can ride it.

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And so it was me, Gabe my wife and the two boys, Jason and me, and we were on

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this bike and it was me and Gabe doing the primarily pedaling and everyone

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was just hanging out, which is cool.

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But I gave him the steering position because you had to steer this bike

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and this bike didn't steer the way you would think it should.

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It was very loosey goosey.

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So it was fun for him to kinda learn steering.

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'cause again, he's 15, he's gonna start driving soon.

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And saying all that to say I forcefully put him in that position where he didn't

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wanna drive it and he wasn't comfortable.

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He was scared about it.

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But we went around this whole park, probably five or six miles, dodging kids,

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dodging soccer balls, dodging frisbees.

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And him learning how to drive in a relatively adverse environment.

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A little fear, a little trepidation, a little hesitation.

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But you give that adversity 'cause I'm right there, able to pull

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the brake at any time to protect her, to help him or whatever.

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And he had a lot of good learning lessons

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I know you all do this, but dads, moms, your kids need

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to see you fail at something.

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They need to see you.

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Put yourself into a thing where you don't know if you are going to win.

Jerremy Newsome:

Most of our listeners are incredibly intelligent, smart, talented people.

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And if you have children, ask yourself, what is one of the

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best gifts you can give them?

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And I'm telling you, it is adversity that they can handle and they need to see you.

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In adversity.

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They need to see how you interact with potential failure or losing or attempting

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or studying or not knowing something.

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They wanna see how you study and how you learn.

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Because when you can impart those gifts into our kids the

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answer is always education.

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We're gonna come back to that as the basic boiler point answer for

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pretty much almost any problem that we encounter is it will be education.

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I was terrified of chiropractic for a long time until I, I jumped off,

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I was doing like a ropes course and jumped off the ropes course and ended

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up hitting my neck or something on something and gave myself whiplash.

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And so I went to a chiropractor.

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I didn't know what else to do 'cause the pain was excruciating

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and within a week whiplash was gone.

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I was totally fine.

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Everything was great.

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And so when we had Dr. Sean Dale come on the podcast and when we

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were interviewing him and talking to him and getting people's take

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on chiropractic, it's like that.

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Of itself, just the embracing this of, Hey, you don't have to go to a

Jerremy Newsome:

specialized doctor if you can't smell.

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There are like me, I can't physically smell.

Jerremy Newsome:

I'm currently starting to go through different routes just to see if

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I can go in and have invasive surgery, have your nose and sinuses

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peeled apart and ripped apart.

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It's go in and have acupuncture, go in and have chiropractic adjustments.

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Go in and start figuring out other methods that are not necessarily more healthy.

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However, they're simply possibly more approachable.

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They're more accessible.

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They're easier and faster, and most likely a lot less expensive.

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Back to the healthcare piece.

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And so really bringing this whole thing full circle to just go into what I'm

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really passionate about is the more people become aware and the more you have.

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These people like Zen who are going out and getting a platform where they're like,

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listen, I don't know the answers either.

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I am here to study, I'm here to learn.

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There are tons and tons of individuals, millions of Americans

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who do not have these answers.

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Let's go find 'em together.

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Let's learn together.

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Let's adapt, grow, change, and evolve.

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And as you evolve, you're gonna start understanding how to learn how to

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study, because you're gonna realize for sure and very quickly that most

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of the things that you do know aren't actually accurate scientifically.

Jerremy Newsome:

And you've been taught them 35 years ago, and they're still holding as

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strong as they ever were because you just never challenged those beliefs.

Dave Conley:

I couldn't agree more.

Dave Conley:

we spend half of our lives sleeping and eating and dealing with

Dave Conley:

bureaucracies and in relationships.

Dave Conley:

And none of it is taught.

Dave Conley:

You have to get, half-assed information, maybe online, but you don't know,

Dave Conley:

And so you end up talking to your friends.

Dave Conley:

Maybe you get a little bit from your parents, but they didn't

Dave Conley:

get the right information.

Dave Conley:

So all of that is just up to you.

Dave Conley:

And the simplicity of just coming back to movement and water and meditation

Dave Conley:

and all these things are free, right?

Dave Conley:

Sunlight.

Dave Conley:

And then, to your point.

Dave Conley:

Being the example for your kids.

Dave Conley:

And it's like when they see you moving and like they, if you're sitting in

Dave Conley:

front of the TV and you're just, that's what you're doing and you're smoking

Dave Conley:

the Marble Reds and you're eating the chips, then that's what they're seeing

Dave Conley:

and that's what they're going to do.

Dave Conley:

And so at some point there is a choice Saying that, like every

Dave Conley:

system is built against you.

Dave Conley:

Every single one, we had the doctors on and they pointed at

Dave Conley:

insurance and being like, oh my God, we had the insurance people on.

Dave Conley:

They were like, Hey, you gotta, how could you possibly spend $12,000 on

Dave Conley:

anything and not know what you're doing?

Dave Conley:

I'm like, okay fair point.

Dave Conley:

And then we have Zen who's oh, like it's not labeled,

Dave Conley:

it's actually inside the food.

Dave Conley:

And hers, her story was one about, whoa, what I really liked

Dave Conley:

was it was about community.

Dave Conley:

Hers was like, damnit, I'm just gonna get moms and we're gonna go March.

Dave Conley:

And I'm like, damn, that.

Dave Conley:

What a great idea.

Jerremy Newsome:

Yeah.

Dave Conley:

Every system is set up against you.

Dave Conley:

And that's I guess that still frustrates me a bit.

Dave Conley:

But on the other hand, we just started this with saying, Hey, what

Dave Conley:

do you actually have control over?

Jerremy Newsome:

you said the word choice

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

Jerremy Newsome:

said, we have the power to heal ourselves

Jerremy Newsome:

with the choices we make.

Jerremy Newsome:

So listen to that very carefully.

Jerremy Newsome:

And that could be on like a t-shirt, and this is probably one of our main

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slogans, but we can heal ourselves, meaning we do not need the agencies and

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the companies and the aspects of this that are designed to make this difficult.

Jerremy Newsome:

We do not need them as individuals.

Jerremy Newsome:

We do not need them to heal.

Jerremy Newsome:

We do not need them to be the best, most vibrant versions of ourselves.

Jerremy Newsome:

And yes, a lot of cards are stacked against us.

Jerremy Newsome:

And ultimately knowing that we again, have the choices.

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It's all choices.

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It's all perspectives.

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world is created by the words you use and the beliefs that you hold.

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Your beliefs are gonna create everything.

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And if you believe that every single thing is going to be created to crush

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you, to stop you from expanding, to keep you poor, broken, fat, and ugly,

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that's exactly what's gonna happen.

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If you also believe that there's a lot of things that are created or

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built or made to give you a certain level of struggle because struggle

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simply makes you stronger, then that's even more of a fun perspective.

Jerremy Newsome:

Ultimately though, I think when you brought up, Hey

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man, you're paying $10,000.

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You don't even know what you're buying.

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You haven't even read it.

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You haven't even tried.

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You haven't even cared.

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I did think that was a gut punch that took us for a storm.

Jerremy Newsome:

'cause me and you were like, we're gonna make fun of the insurance agency.

Dave Conley:

There.

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about how awful it is, and we're coming for you insurance.

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then both of these insurance agents are like, yeah, homie.

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But here's the problem is you don't even care.

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You don't even know what you have.

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And then I thought to myself, you're right.

Jerremy Newsome:

I don't, I haven't studied it for a moment.

Dave Conley:

That was the best and worst feeling out of this whole

Dave Conley:

thing because I totally rolled in, be like, ah, damn you insurance.

Dave Conley:

And they're like, have you ever read it?

Dave Conley:

And I'm like, oh no, I can't even comment on it.

Dave Conley:

No.

Jerremy Newsome:

Yeah, that was fascinating.

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And then to circle back, let's just keep having fun with Dave.

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When we're talking about the term that I think a lot of people are very aware

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of, and again, man I do think that there's a big challenge here, but we do

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truly probably see that the challenge as you race early from the adaptation

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and adoption and education on health, but the sick care system as Amanda and

Jerremy Newsome:

Sean were mentioning, the big change there is all focused on profits,

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

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The healthcare system profiting off of sickness because although

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prevention is the alternative, if you do not get sick and everyone in America

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suddenly becomes a lot healthier moves a lot more and eats a lot better, and gets

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more sunlight and spends more time outside and smokes less and drinks less alcohol.

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probably visit substantially less in the medical system and there

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becomes a lot less of a strain on it.

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And then most importantly, there's gonna be massive changes there

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because then the profits dwindle.

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the best way to get someone to change companies to changed

Jerremy Newsome:

corporations have changed.

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And you start attacking that bottom line, you start creating pain.

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'cause pain's a great motivator.

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Pain is a great mover.

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So for Amanda to guide us through a lot of the bottlenecks that happen

Jerremy Newsome:

in emergency rooms, that would be a really fascinating topic or episode

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just to even dive into that more.

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A lot of the misdiagnoses that happen the one that really probably stood out to me

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ultimately was I think she said, KPI care is like these doctors and these patients,

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the relationship is a patient is a number.

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A lot of times, and it's get in this emergency room, let's get you suited.

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And off you go.

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not really a right?

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It's a, all right, this is a profit center.

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The hospitals have this particular number.

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We need to see this amount of patients and prescribe this and

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do this and create this, and this can very check, check oriented.

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And that, to me, I did not know.

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I did not know it worked that way

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A little scary.

Dave Conley:

I've learned two things since then, and this is why I want to,

Dave Conley:

when we swing back around this, I want to talk to some more people in this.

Dave Conley:

One, is that.

Dave Conley:

If a doctor doesn't put one of those codes in, that was Rihanna was talking

Dave Conley:

about, then they don't get paid.

Dave Conley:

And so they slot a lot of people into codes because they'll get paid not

Dave Conley:

because of what the diagnosis actually is.

Dave Conley:

Not to say that they're wrong or off.

Dave Conley:

They're like, just close enough.

Dave Conley:

But, like it's an art.

Dave Conley:

We're human beings.

Dave Conley:

Like it's being a doctor is, you're an art, you're in an

Dave Conley:

art as much as a science.

Dave Conley:

And a large number of medical issues or misdiagnosis or being treated

Dave Conley:

for something wrong happens early on in a process where somebody is

Dave Conley:

slotted into something and it's never changed later on because the doctor

Dave Conley:

was managing to a number and was, wherever in the process it was stuck

Dave Conley:

on the number and it wasn't stuck on the human and what was going on there.

Dave Conley:

The other thing is those KPIs often have like a satisfaction score.

Dave Conley:

And so if the doctor doesn't give somebody what they want,

Dave Conley:

then they'll get a bad review.

Dave Conley:

And it doesn't necessarily mean that, the doctor, it's not a Yelp

Dave Conley:

review for a doctor, it's, sometimes doctors have to do tough things.

Dave Conley:

I love that people are coming in more knowledgeable, like my doctor

Dave Conley:

said, he expects somebody to come in with I heard this on a podcast, or

Dave Conley:

I Googled this, or whatever, right?

Dave Conley:

And he gets to have actually much better conversations with his patients.

Dave Conley:

So there's, on top of that, Amanda was talking about you only get

Dave Conley:

15 minutes and you're in and out.

Dave Conley:

And so the one thing you can do is give him a pill.

Dave Conley:

So again, every piece of that is ah, like that's when you're

Dave Conley:

just wanna throw it all out.

Dave Conley:

And now you're back at let me ask you this.

Dave Conley:

What did we learn?

Dave Conley:

If you do get sick, most people are right?

Dave Conley:

the day before I met you.

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no.

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I'm gonna pause this.

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You're gonna tell your story, but when he says the day.

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does mean an actual 24 hour period.

Jerremy Newsome:

Keep going.

Dave Conley:

I called him from the hospital and he said, okay.

Dave Conley:

I said, okay.

Dave Conley:

I don't know what's gonna happen, but I think I'm still gonna come.

Dave Conley:

I won't know until I'm outta surgery.

Dave Conley:

And you're like, what?

Dave Conley:

And I'm like it's my appendix, right?

Dave Conley:

And they do have to rush me to emergency surgery and we'll

Dave Conley:

know more once I'm up and out.

Dave Conley:

And yeah, I was up and out like a few hours later, like I had to go overnight.

Dave Conley:

and then I got on the plane that day because I was like I can.

Dave Conley:

I can either sit around and be like, feeling sorry for myself

Dave Conley:

or I can get on a plane and that, that actually taught me some grace.

Dave Conley:

'cause I had to ask for help for everybody.

Dave Conley:

I couldn't lift anything.

Dave Conley:

So I had to ask every single person, it's like, Hey, I got a bag.

Dave Conley:

Would you mind lifting it up on the security and would you mind lifting

Dave Conley:

it and putting it in the bin overhead?

Dave Conley:

So what did we learn about what happens when you get sick?

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Or even needing massive medical attention.

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

Jerremy Newsome:

And I think the answer is our system right now it's both good

Jerremy Newsome:

and bad because it works 85% of the time

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

Jerremy Newsome:

But here's the challenge.

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That's a b plus.

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And when you're talking about hundreds of millions of people, that 15% is

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an astronomically horrible number.

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You're dealing with millions that are negatively impacted.

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And yes, that is a problem, but I do not feel that there

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is an authority, especially a governmental authority right now.

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Also, that's.

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Extremely well geared towards making our country run extremely

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efficiently through a care system.

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A care system of actually pouring into the patients.

Jerremy Newsome:

And to your point, I'll ask you this question 'cause we did talk about it a

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lot in conjunction with the insurance.

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How did your insurance help you getting your appendix taken out?

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Was it a massive financial strain?

Jerremy Newsome:

And what did you end up paying, if you remember?

Dave Conley:

I do, I know exactly what it's, and I kept on putting

Dave Conley:

it off because I didn't want to get into the medical industrial complex.

Dave Conley:

And finally I actually called my doctor and he said, look, man, you might be.

Dave Conley:

Hey, you're going in for surgery now.

Dave Conley:

I learned subsequently that I didn't necessarily need surgery

Dave Conley:

that actually for an appendix.

Dave Conley:

If you do a heavy antibiotic for five days, it tends to

Dave Conley:

have the exact same result.

Dave Conley:

But that's neither here nor there.

Dave Conley:

I ended up talking to a surgeon before I talked to my doctor, but what surprised me

Dave Conley:

the most was the bill I got, it was zero.

Dave Conley:

Because I went to a hospital that happened to be completely

Dave Conley:

affiliated with my insurance company.

Dave Conley:

I had actually checked, with my insurance company to be

Dave Conley:

like, okay, where should I go?

Dave Conley:

And they said, this hospital turned out to be great.

Dave Conley:

And that was the lesson that I heard both from Rihanna and from Nick, is

Dave Conley:

even if you can't make sure somebody is there and they're asking questions

Dave Conley:

like, how much does this cost?

Dave Conley:

Give me the bill.

Dave Conley:

And you're not guiding the care.

Dave Conley:

You're saying, okay, what's necessary, what's not?

Dave Conley:

Let's put it in the realm of choices, rather than saying, I need an $80 Tylenol.

Jerremy Newsome:

Yep.

Jerremy Newsome:

Two of my favorite quotes and you always help me in my presentations and

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speaking, but one of them is you can either be a victim or you can be a victor.

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Then the other one of course is you can be a warrior or you can be a warrior.

Dave Conley:

Say that again?

Dave Conley:

your accent aid into the, it's warrior.

Dave Conley:

Warrior or worrier.

Dave Conley:

Wow.

Dave Conley:

I like that

Jerremy Newsome:

Thanks man.

Jerremy Newsome:

Thank you.

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accent does get in the way of it a little bit, so I try, like warrior or

Dave Conley:

Warrior.

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Do you worry or do you go to war?

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Here it is, the big one, the big shift.

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The reason I'm mentioning those two statements, it is our personal

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responsibility, Americans.

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That's what I'm telling you.

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We have to take personal responsibility.

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All these other aspects are here for us as supplements, meaning supplementally.

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We can do this in addition to, but we have to focus on our health,

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our finances, and our life.

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No one is coming to save us.

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we do this through diet, through exercise.

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We do this with sleep, with savvy choices, working with professionals,

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but not leaning on them.

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This is gonna unlock a lot of the broken systems.

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So if I, talk about Zen, who was on episode 11,

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

Jerremy Newsome:

Choosing organic.

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Over Gmail laden food.

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Boom, that's a choice.

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It's gonna be more expensive.

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Yes, it will.

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Which now is gonna make you focus more on your finances.

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And that's one of the reasons that you came up to me after 16 hours of

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getting your appendix removed, is I was like, Hey bro, I wanna coach

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with you, work with me, work with my wife, and we'll change your life.

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I'll help you with your money, I'll help you understand all the things.

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And then we ended up creating this together and I was like,

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oh, that's why you're in my life.

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This is awesome.

Dave Conley:

Here we are.

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Day one, you're like, you wanna run for president?

Jerremy Newsome:

I'm gonna help you and here's

Dave Conley:

I am

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it.

Dave Conley:

number one in

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and you went all the way in.

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So I'll take a quick second and say, thank you man.

Jerremy Newsome:

Thanks for being all the way in.

Jerremy Newsome:

Thanks for loving on me and for pouring in 300 hours in the last few months,

Dave Conley:

it is maybe this last week.

Jerremy Newsome:

making this mission happen.

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It's very appreciative

Dave Conley:

Wouldn't do it if I didn't believe in it.

Dave Conley:

And you, and what we're doing because this is about solving America's problems.

Dave Conley:

And I don't know if there's anything more important than bringing, a better world,

Jerremy Newsome:

This is a very rare podcast.

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You know this 'cause you consume podcasts all the time.

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But usually most political podcasts are very one-sided.

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They're not really specifically bipartisan.

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You and I have openly mentioned that we don't agree on all policies,

Dave Conley:

Oh, no.

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nor should we.

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And it's a fun discussion when we get to have our chats and we get to go see

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things from different lenses and also bring in guests that are well more

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versed in certain things than we are.

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

Jerremy Newsome:

again, man, when we were chatting with Zen,

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when she was like, guys, eating well isn't just health, right?

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It's defiance against a toxic food supply.

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These personal choices that you're making, they're gonna shape your

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outcomes that you have in life.

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to me, as consumers, if we start making this choice that's gonna impact the

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profits of these companies and that's gonna naturally create a change to occur.

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Right?

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And then again, having the discussions about the health, what kept coming up

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over and over and over again is we are in control more than we think we are.

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Knowing and spending time to read the fine print on your medical policy, read

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the fine print on the back of your food label, that was like 25 minutes of what

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Zen was referring to and talking about.

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Sitting down

Dave Conley:

it was.

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conversations with these ER doctors, maybe even ahead of time.

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Ha.

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Have you ever heard of prehab?

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Instead of going to rehab, you do everything preliminary before it

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actually begins, before it starts These are, again, personal choices

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that we can all make ahead of time.

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We can have conversations with people now, before we get sick determine,

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the patterns of decisions and choices that we can make that allow us to not

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necessarily always interact with a system that we might feel is broken.

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We don't even have to be a part of it.

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We can only lean on it when we have to Has it really ever led

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us or caused us to go astray?

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I've had tonsil surgery, I've had ear, nose and throat surgery.

Jerremy Newsome:

I had a deviated septum.

Jerremy Newsome:

I've had my wisdom teeth taken out and I had malaria once when I was 18.

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

Dave Conley:

Wow.

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sucked.

Dave Conley:

Oof.

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Don't get malaria and all in those situations, right?

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

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with little or no insurance and everything

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ended up becoming fine.

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This is how I know about the plans, and this is how I know about when

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we were asking the conversations with Nick and Rhiannon's Hey, can

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you have conversations with people?

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Can you talk to these people?

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Like how do you, what questions you ask.

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I know about that 'cause I went through it and I'm fully aware of this.

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Listen, this is an educational component and there's that word again.

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it all is everything that we do, everything that we know.

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It's always a choice.

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It's always an opportunity.

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It's an opportunity to grow, educate, shift, learn, and understand.

Dave Conley:

I think if there's one thing that we can.

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Leave our listeners, and it's, I think it was the wisdom of

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Zen that really sat with me.

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And I've been thinking about it.

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And actually, I was talking to a doctor friend of mine yesterday,

Dave Conley:

this is a scientist, right?

Dave Conley:

Like years and years of training.

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And she's completely changed her practice and her practice is much more holistic.

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And if I described it to you, I think for the vast majority of people it

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would sound like voodoo and woo, right?

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what I heard from Zen because there is going to be a segment of people who

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are like stuck in what institutions and what mainstream and what, what

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you hear and what is accepted science.

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And they'll be like that's what it is.

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And anything that questions that.

Dave Conley:

Cathedral is wrong and those people are bad.

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And like we bump and you bump into it with getting people like RFKJ,

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being told anti-vaxxer and having to describe to people while he's not right.

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Like he's just pro safety and let's set that aside, what I heard from

Dave Conley:

Zen because, she can dip into those areas too with all sorts of things

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I. That people are like, no, these things are safe and they're fine.

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And I don't know if we're going to reach those people, but she left

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us with one very powerful thing that I think everybody can do.

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And she's look, just Stay curious.

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And if you try organic food for 30 days and you feel better, then

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that's all you really need to know.

Dave Conley:

If you just try something for 30 days, anything, more water, more movement, some

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sunlight, some meditation, some whatever it is, eating GMO for one meal, right?

Dave Conley:

Or not, meaning not eating GMO, eating organic for one meal, stay if you can't

Dave Conley:

pronounce it, don't put it in your mouth, so it's there is a simplicity to this

Dave Conley:

and it'll keep you outta the hospitals.

Dave Conley:

It'll keep you out of the doctor's offices.

Dave Conley:

It will keep you healthier than that.

Jerremy Newsome:

Yeah, so if I had to say, Dave, like at the heart of what you

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believe we found in the very first time that we address together as a podcast and

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as a team, making America healthy again?

Jerremy Newsome:

How do we solve the problem that exists right now as what we now know?

Dave Conley:

I know how difficult it is to do it by yourself.

Dave Conley:

I was 330 pounds overweight.

Dave Conley:

I had a beautiful, lovely wife and yet, like I was choosing

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differently for most of my life.

Dave Conley:

And I think, all of our guests in one way or another, kept on coming

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back to community, and that's very empowering, that allows people to

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ask for and demand different things.

Dave Conley:

How about learning how to garden and getting things like farmer's markets

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and demanding that the stores near you have different choices and saying

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that there's going to be demand for these things because one person by

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themselves can make a difference.

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But as soon as you get your neighbor involved, then you have two voices

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and those two voices become four and those four become eight, and

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then you have a movement, and that's when change really happens.

Dave Conley:

So I think there's a personal responsibility aspect of this, and

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we also learned that like 42% of births, that's 1.5 million kids a

Dave Conley:

year get born into Medicaid, right?

Dave Conley:

That means, Medicaid is the insurance you have when you can't afford anything else.

Dave Conley:

And so it's going to be community standing up and saying, Hey,

Dave Conley:

this needs to be different.

Jerremy Newsome:

Yep,

Dave Conley:

What about you?

Jerremy Newsome:

yep.

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That's a community take.

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It's the communities.

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And I still man, forcefully, vehemently agree and believe that a lot of this

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change is Gonna start from the top of being a voice for the voiceless.

Jerremy Newsome:

Being someone that knows the challenges, knows the struggle, didn't grow up.

Jerremy Newsome:

As a billionaire, hashtag our current president didn't

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grow up in the entire system.

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Hashtag most of every single president has come before us.

Jerremy Newsome:

Not having a lens of this political, systematic approach

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where I take money bribes.

Dave Conley:

Yeah.

Jerremy Newsome:

instead of creating a system that has been infiltrated by again,

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to the point any big company that has tons of profits is wanting more money.

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You have someone like myself and like many other candidates have

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bought into the American dream.

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We bought into it, we financed it, we grew it.

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And that dream allowed other people to be positively impacted other people to learn.

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change, grow, become inspired, become motivated, then go

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out and make that change.

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That's the process, that's the cycle.

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And I truly believe if we have someone who is focused on that, on the revitalization

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of America's mental health, pouring into the mental awareness, the positive

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vibrational frequency, the shift from negative to positive, that in of itself is

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gonna be a humongous impact on our health.

Jerremy Newsome:

My man, I fully believe that.

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'cause if you are drinking poison and you're thinking negative thoughts for

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our listeners, I'm sure you know this, but if you said to me, The things

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that you say to yourself every day?

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Would we be friends?

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Would we even have conversations with each other?

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Would we ever talk?

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The answer's?

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Probably not, because we beat ourselves up.

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We say so many negative things to ourselves, and we very rarely have

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someone else who's cheering us on.

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That's gonna be the person I'm gonna be.

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I'm gonna be that cheerleader.

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I'm gonna be the focus.

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I'm gonna help understand and learn together as we continue to

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grow and really truly track down.

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What are some of the biggest challenges, the biggest hurdles, the biggest problems,

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and the easiest, advantageous, implemental solutions that we can start at right now.

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But this will come with every single one of you who are listening to

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We are self-funding this because we are Americans who bought the American dream.

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We have built it ourselves and we are here now to pour into every

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About the Podcast

Solving America's Problems
Solving America’s Problems isn’t just a podcast—it’s a journey. Co-host Jerremy Newsome, a successful entrepreneur and educator, is pursuing his lifelong dream of running for president. Along the way, he and co-host Dave Conley bring together experts, advocates, and everyday Americans to explore the real, actionable solutions our country needs.

With dynamic formats—one-on-one interviews, panel discussions, and more—we cut through the noise of divisive rhetoric to uncover practical ideas that unite instead of divide. If you’re ready to think differently, act boldly, and join a movement for meaningful change, subscribe now.