Episode 115

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Published on:

25th Sep 2025

From France's Riots to U.S. Borders: The Immigration Bonds Fueling Global Chaos

Dave Conley and Jerremy draw stark parallels between unrest in France and the UK and America's brewing storms, from immigration strains to economic woes and civil war risks. They debate government curbs on addictive substances, the push for productive economies over extractive ones, and Trump's volatile take on international conflicts. Crises in Ukraine, Gaza, and Somalia spotlight U.S. intervention flaws and life's sanctity, plus Mexico's cartel battles and the new $15,000 visa bond hurdle. The hosts stress open dialogue and tease future dives into gun control and the Second Amendment.

Timestamps:

  • (00:00) Clips from Current Events 1-3
  • (02:55) International Conflicts and US Policy
  • (18:35) Immigration Policies and Challenges
  • (21:38) Closing Remarks and Future Topics
Transcript
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Dave spots echoes of French and UK unrest in America's pressures,

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from immigration to economic strains.

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Jerremy sees us as a teenage

nation figuring itself out.

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But their take on civil war risks

sharpens the edge—if divisions deepen,

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what holds the country together?

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Dave: We have restrictions

on stuff now, right?

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You know, age restrictions, like

yeah, you can smoke yourself to death,

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you can drink yourself to death,

there's some restrictions in there.

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There's no real penalties on

these, these companies though.

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So in a sense it's like, look, if

you're driving people into oblivion

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you don't kick off the successful ones.

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You ensure that people who are have

a clear sickness can't get at this,

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Jerremy: yeah,

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Dave: or that they get straight

into the programs to be like,

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oh man, this is not good.

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Jerremy: yeah, I agree with you.

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Dave: Alright.

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Jerremy: with you.

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Ultimately it is if the government really

cared about this population, fun fact.

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What a way to kick off a sentence

if they actually even gave a damn,

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: figure out ways to protect the

populace from addictive substances that

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the majority of the time no positive

long-term effect to someone's life.

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Dave: There's a concept I really

like that I'm hearing more of is that

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there's extractive parts of our economy.

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There are productive parts of our

economy, for example, and I happy that

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this is gonna piss some people off

finance Wall Street, that's extractive.

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We're not creating anything.

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It's just money circulating around.

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A lot of, of, uh, Silicon Valley.

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You know, it's about, advertising and

sucking people into the algorithms.

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It's not building anything.

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So there's and there's people

who, who are building companies

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like a Tesla that is additive.

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It's not subtractive.

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So there's a real divide between

things that are a net pull

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versus a net push for humanity.

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And I think we need to start looking

at the things that we do personally,

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the things that we do in our economy

and what we pay attention to.

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As, these are the areas where government,

where politicians, where people, where

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society wants to put more energy because

these are positive and this world of

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extractive, which is a huge focus.

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We need to, we just need to, to like let

them do, you know, like you do you boo.

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And we're gonna, we're gonna go over here

and look at the positive, the net benefits

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and those kind of things, is that.

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What do you think of that?

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That's been my moral focus of light.

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I don't know, like we are in that

sort of finance Wall Street world,

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but you get what I'm saying?

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Jerremy: Absolutely, and

I subscribe to it fully.

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My brother.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: Yeah, I agree with you.

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Dave: Alright.

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International interesting stuff.

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I think we could spend a lot

of time talking about Ukraine.

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I think we could talk a

lot about Gaza Israel.

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I'm gonna say right now, this

administration has completely

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disappointed me on this.

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I firmly believe that if it was a Biden

Harris or a Harris Walsh administration,

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that it wasn't going to get better

either in Ukraine or Gaza in Israel.

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And at least the rhetoric and the

talk around what candidate Trump was

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saying seemed much more positive.

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And I was like, man, it feels like we're

on the brink of nuclear Armageddon.

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Like it goes back to that

moral thing of like, people

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are dying let's do less dying.

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And yet it's.

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Same, same, even worse like the

chain's off, the chain's off on

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Israel and Gaza, like it's, it

is getting demonstrably worse.

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Same thing with Ukraine.

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Like that's not going in a good direction.

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I went back and looked at one of

the briefs I did for you I think

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two years ago at this point.

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And I'm like, Ukraine

doesn't make any sense.

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Like the math doesn't work.

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Ukraine can't do this.

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They don't have enough people

like, you know, like you can

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pour in as much as you want.

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Like, Russia is just gonna grind

them down and the only thing that

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they can do is negotiate now 'cause

it's not gonna get any better.

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Or they have to pull in nato.

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Well, it looks like they're actually

trying to pull in NATO now, and that

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means like pulling in the United States,

and I don't think that's gonna happen.

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So I'm disappointed in

this administration.

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None of this seems to be

going in the right direction.

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It doesn't even seem like they're doing

much more, if not worse than Biden.

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I don't know.

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Do you have any other take on this?

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Do you have what's positive, if anything?

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Jerremy: I'm gonna have to agree

with you, essentially with what

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you said on like, killing bad.

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Let's figure out a way to stop

doing that as much as possible.

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And I will say that I do believe,

and again, I think everyone

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knows I'm not a huge Trump fan.

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I do believe that Trump

doesn't generally like wars.

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He wants to pull out as much as possible.

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He doesn't like violence.

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He's not a war mongering president

again, that's just my opinion.

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However, to your point, he is handling

it pretty awfully, pretty awfully.

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And would the other

administration do better?

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No.

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I think it's like that portion

of the world and that entire

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crisis, that is awful, by the way.

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Hundreds of thousands of people

are dying and being affected daily.

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It is deplorable, but it's

been that way for a long time.

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Dave: Hey, get this I don't

think anybody knows this one or

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very few people know this one.

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It shows up in my anti-war sort

of libertarian crowd that I

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love to listen to is Somalia.

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Somalia is our longest war.

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We've been in there a quarter of a

century bombing the crap out of Somalia.

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Under the Trump administration, we

have increased our presence there.

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We've increased our bombings.

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We bomb them every single week,

and we don't talk about it at all.

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We keep on killing people

there and killing people there

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and killing people there.

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And I can't find any news on it.

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Oh my God.

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It goes back to that sanctity of life.

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It's oh, if we're killing people

in the name of the United States,

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we're not making any friends.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Exactly.

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And again, that's unfortunate.

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Like I don't want that to be happening.

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Dave: yeah.

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Jerremy: the other unfortunate part is

been happening for a very long time.

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And it's not even Somalia, just really

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Dave: Everywhere.

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Jerremy: the.

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Breadbasket, the core of where the

civilization allegedly started, like

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that Middle East, middle earth area

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Dave: of middle Earth.

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Jerremy: has been in such

tumultuous, awful, argumentative,

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fighting over religion and

boundaries and borders for so long.

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have no idea what would,

could or might solve that.

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why if you're a religious person,

you probably play, pray to

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whatever religious deity that you

really believe is gonna fix it.

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And that's the only thing that

you're gonna be able to do.

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And we don't have to

turn an entire blind eye.

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But for me personally, I do think

that it's gonna be one of those

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situations where it's listen.

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Why do we have to figure

out their problem?

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That's the one thing I'm unaware of

is listen, I'm not picking any side.

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I'm gonna pick this side, the

country, us that we live in.

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I don't want to solve their issue

or we're gonna let them solve it.

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Why, like, why are we always

up in everyone else's business?

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They're gonna be fighting all the time.

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They've been doing it

for thousands of years.

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Dave: Let 'em figure it out.

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That's gonna be called isolationism and

I'm gonna say the globalism has not worked

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out, so we've gotta try something else.

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Jerremy: Correct.

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Dave: There's um, there's a number

of international things that sort

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of fall under the category of.

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Immigration pressures, economic

pressures nationalism, and I mean

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nationalism as like the lowercase

good thing of like, Hey, this is

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my country and I'm proud of it.

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France, like they've dissolved their

parliament, which basically means

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the government doesn't do anything.

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And they're gonna have to have elections.

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Again, that comes from economic pressures.

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They have a lot of money that

goes to social, uh, things

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that, that's immigration.

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A lot of that social stuff also goes to

immigration and you have to submit your

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budget to the EU in order to have it

approved, and it keeps on getting denied.

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And so the government is sort

of stalled on what to do, and

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there's a lot of, of French people

are like, Hey, this is my right.

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Like having these, these social programs,

this is what it means to be French,

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versus the reality of being able to

pay for it versus immigration causing

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some pressures on housing, which we've

talked about in other aspects, like they,

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they're running into some political stuff.

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The other one is.

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UK had this huge protest

and it was all about British

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wanting to be British people.

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They had, riots last year, and, uh,

it was painted as anti-immigration.

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And I think it it's wiser to, to

step back a little bit about that and

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stop labeling it and being like, Hey.

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Same, same.

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There's a lot of overreach and people

aren't able to protest, like people being

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locked up for memes and mean tweets.

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And when you keep boxing people in

and not addressing their issues,

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they are gonna blame immigrants for

things rather than being like, Hey, if

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everybody had a job, it's the abundance.

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If everybody had a job, everybody had

a home, everybody able to do their

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thing, they wouldn't be blaming anybody.

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They'd be like, Hey, come on in.

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So it's, it's, it's, and it's like,

Hey, we want to be proud to be British.

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And we see all this change

and being told basically, if

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you're British, then you're bad.

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So like, both of these things have a,

have a, both a, they have a, a pride,

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a French pride, a UK Pride or British

Pride, they have an economic component

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to it, and it's causing some stress.

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Um.

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I think we see that in

the United States too.

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Are they showing us our future or

are we showing them their future?

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Jerremy: I think they're showing us ours.

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My present belief is that America is

a teenager, in the scheme of countries

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we are, let's call it 16, 17 years old.

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Who am I?

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What do I believe in?

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What do I love?

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Am I gay?

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Am I straight?

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Do I like women?

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Do I like men?

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I don't know.

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Who knows what's going on?

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I don't know who I'm, like

you're figuring your stuff out.

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You're figuring out things that

probably other countries are like,

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bro, what are you talking about?

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Been there, done that long time ago.

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Got that under control, and you start

getting nuances and other things

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that are going to absolutely create,

big stirs, I think just to generally

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answer your question, I think that's

the future of where we're going

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The scarier part is with the

size of the United States.

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Dave: Right.

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Jerremy: That's probably

one of our disadvantages.

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And when I say disadvantages, it's a

disadvantage in the sense of you have a

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lot of bifurcation you do in any other,

any country, from language to dialect,

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to to belief, especially in the UK and

England, shoot England anywhere, right?

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Australia, England, India,

China, every country.

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But in the US it's one of the few

current countries that I believe

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with the right spark would not

take a lot to create a civil war.

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And there's a couple movies

on it that I have watched.

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One of them was the one with

Julia Roberts recently that Obama

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was an executive producer on

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Dave: Yeah, that was grim.

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Jerremy: Grim.

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And at the end I was like, shit

yeah, that's probably accurate.

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That feels unfortunately, really realistic

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Dave: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Jerremy: So to your point think, that's

probably our biggest downfall is you

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start poking the bear and disseminating

information media-wise different

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parts of the country differently in

getting us fighting with each other.

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America could never be

taken down from the outside.

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We're too strong, too

powerful to everything.

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But from the inside,

that's how we would fall.

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Dave: Man, I'm, huh?

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Maybe it's my optimism on this.

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I hear you.

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And I like, I could totally get on this.

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I also think that UK and France

don't necessarily do the best

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job of integrating people.

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We're a big country, and we've

done this for a long time.

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We may be teenagers, but we're also

the oldest government on the planet.

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Like no government can touch us.

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We are the oldest government

and we are the oldest democracy

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and we keep on keeping on even

with things like civil wars.

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And there's a certain aspect

of federalism where, you know,

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states, have a lot of power.

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They have a lot of capabilities and I

think people generally have very positive

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feelings about their fellow Americans.

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There's this great comedian

Bridget Acy who says, ah, we're

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too fat to have a civil war.

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I'm like, yeah I think I agree with that.

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Jerremy: That's funny.

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Dave: Nobody makes money on a

civil war, except for gun runners.

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I don't know.

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I don't think there's

actual pressures there.

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Like there can be definitely

political violence.

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We had a lot in the seventies and sixties.

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And I don't know, I don't

see it being big and bubbly.

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I don't know.

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We'll think about it.

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I'll think about it,

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Dave: I'm optimistic.

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Jerremy: I'm glad.

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No I am too.

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I'm too I'm just saying I think that's

where, that's where our biggest challenge

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will lay as a country is avoiding that.

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Dave: On the Mexico side, I thought

this was sort of interesting.

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Mexican government said, Hey us,

if you wanna run, if you wanna run

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your agents into Mexico, come on in.

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I can't even imagine any

country really doing this, but

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they're like, sure, no problem.

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Shine bomb was like, come on in

a US agent, if you wanna do raids

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across our border, Hey, come on now.

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Ah, maybe they have to, before I got

on sort of the early religion kick

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right before it, I was listening to

about the history of drug cartels.

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Um, you know, all through Central

and South America and particularly

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Mexico, and we don't talk about

how the Mexican government is

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completely intertwined with this.

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Like we, we stop at.

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Cartel, bad cartel run

by this cartel leader.

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And that is very naive.

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This is, uh, government is all through

this from the national to the local level.

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Like it is, it is completely ingrained.

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So I don't know if.

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Mexico is saying, come across the

border, it feels like window dressing.

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And I don't think that's

gonna stop anything.

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Like I, I firmly believe

that we have to make,

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making money on drugs not worth it.

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Meaning,

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Jerremy: Yes.

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Dave: meaning like, uh.

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If you get, if you sell drugs in

the United States and we are the

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biggest consumers of drugs, like,

I don't know if we can stop that.

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But you get money for that.

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How do you get that into the bank?

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How do you get that into

the international space?

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How do you use that money?

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And if a drug cartel or a government

has all of this drug money, I

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think that it should be worthless.

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They shouldn't be able to spend it.

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That it, that you turn

it into worthless money.

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I'm not exactly sure how to do that,

but it's like, okay, then they don't

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get to spend this money that they got.

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And I think that it happens

at the financial arena.

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It means tough things.

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It means sanctioning and getting at

big American companies uh, group,

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which certainly has shenanigans.

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I dunno, that's a long-winded

way of saying, Hey, Mexico's

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doing some funny stuff and

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Hey, come on over.

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So they're saying Chase,

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Dave: come right chase, chase these, Dr.

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It's it feels like window dressing to me.

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I don't know.

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Is it gonna do anything?

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Jerremy: It'd be cool if it

does, but I don't think it will.

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You would have to, again, that's

the unfortunate part, right?

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I love that your thought is like,

Hey, just get rid of the money

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and then the drugs will go away.

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Dave: No we're not gonna

get rid of the drugs.

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We are, we're always gonna have the drugs,

but make it worthless, make it worthless

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to the people who are producing it.

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Jerremy: Yeah, that'd be amazing.

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And that'd be great.

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To your point, that'd be a fun discussion.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: how to do that.

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Initially you have to make cash illegal.

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Dave: That's tough.

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Jerremy: Yeah, it's gonna be tough to do.

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Dave: Yeah,

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Jerremy: You

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Dave: I just know that the war on

drugs, we are not Chick Munk again.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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How?

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However, I don't know what we did.

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It's

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Dave: What happened?

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Jerremy: limit.

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Dave: How does that sound?

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Jerremy: go.

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We're back.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Okay.

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So that's Mexico.

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We also blew up a boat.

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That seems like a bad idea.

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We're just blowing up boats now.

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Jerremy: The cartel boat off of the

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Dave: Venezuela.

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It's we're just blowing up boats.

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I'm like, that just seems

like a dumb idea to me.

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Jerremy: The really dumb idea is

like, how did we know for sure?

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Number one there was boat and then

there was a lot of individuals that

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were like, what about due process?

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And valid point, right?

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Dave: Fair.

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Do we want to use multimillion dollar?

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Machinery and blowing stuff

outta the water when we could

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just, pull up a tugboat to the

side of it and be like, Hey,

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Jerremy: You're arrested.

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Dave: right.

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And back to Sanctity of life,

like we just ended the lives of

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a bunch of people and they might

have had nothing to do with this.

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I'm like, ugh.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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And we don't know who was on the boat.

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We don't know what they did.

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Yeah, that's JD Vance actually

posted something that's now a

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meme pretty quickly on Twitter.

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He more or less was like, good.

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Dave: Oh God.

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Jerremy: someone says yeah,

but what about due process?

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So what about like this?

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That's called, and I apologize for

not knowing the word right now, but

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someone said, it's called X, Y, Z.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: did is called X, Y, Z, and jds I

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: shit what it's called.

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Dave: Oh God.

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Jerremy: And now it's

this big, it's this big

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Dave: Oh,

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Jerremy: of I don't give a shit what

it's called, the vice president,

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Dave: president?

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Jerremy: saying yeah whatever.

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Dave: What?

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Whatevs.

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Oh, I go, oh

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Jerremy: boat.

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So now it doesn't exist anymore.

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Dave: yeah.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Dave: I wanted to relate

something actually personal

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that it's on immigration.

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It was fascinating.

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I was talking to my woman who's Turkish

and she was talking to friends that

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husband is American, wife is Turkish,

also American, and they're having

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relatives visit in the United States.

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I'm like, fantastic.

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Well for, Turkish citizens, you

need a visa, you need a B one visa

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either for business or for tourism.

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And so a calls, you know, tells me

that the visa costs $15,000 per person.

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I'm like, what?

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Yeah, $15,000.

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I'm like, US dollars.

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What, and she said, yeah.

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I looked it up and indeed a month ago,

three weeks ago the State Department

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put in a requirement on countries.

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They're piloting this, and they

started with Zambia and Namibia.

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For countries that had high stay

overs, meaning that they, you

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overrun your visa, you get a visa

for three months and you stay.

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And so Zambia and Namibia, they

were over 10% and for one of

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them, again, I looked it up.

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They had 300 people overstay, and so

the State Department is like, yeah,

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if you are from this poor African

country, in order to come over here

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and do business or if you want to come

over and visit, you have to put up

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$15,000 bond and you have to wire that

money to the State Department and then

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when you leave, if you leave on time.

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hitting this Turkish family, even

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though Turkish, you know, Turkey

is a, you know, modern country.

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I can't imagine that

they're having overstays.

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It's, it was a weird one.

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And that's not even been

publicized by the State Department.

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It's only those two African countries.

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This is what's coming.

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And this is, this is part of the,

the immigration changes that are

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happening, which are, very onerous.

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Like this could happen to any country

that the administration doesn't like it.

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Suddenly, if you need a visa to come into

the United States, it costs you 15 grand.

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That's a lot of money for anybody.

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You know, unless you are in

rarefied air in a modern country.

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Holy smokes, and you have to hand

that over to the government and

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then get it back weeks later.

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I'm like, oh my God.

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There's so many things about

this that I think is nuts.

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Jerremy: Yes,

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Dave: It's welcome to America.

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The door is closed unless you

have a giant pile of cash.

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Jerremy: Yep.

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And that circles right back to kinda

like the whole immigration piece, right?

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Is it is a way to close borders and

it's definitely, there's gonna be some

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people that are really gonna like it.

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and at the same stage, man, it's that

is, we promise we'll give it back.

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You'll be fine.

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Don't worry.

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Really wild.

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But for our listeners

out there just thank you.

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Thank you for continuing to tune in.

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Thank you for sending us your messages.

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Instagram, but also on Twitter and just

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reaching out and sharing us what episodes,

what thoughts, what provisions, what

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insights we can continue to come up with.

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I think it would be almost amiss

if Dave and I in the recent future,

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didn't do something on gun control and.

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The gun debate and the second Amendment.

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Because again, my process, my job, my

ultimate objective through all of this

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is to have incredible conversations,

to really learn, to study, to be fully

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aware that not only do I not know

everything, nor should I be expected to.

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But as the future president of

the United States of America my

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ultimate goal and vision and ideal

is to create actionable solutions.

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Focus on the educational components,

focus on schools and colleges.

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Having discussions like this for a period

of time where you just get to share your

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thoughts, you get to share your ideas,

it's a melting pot of conversation.

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And we had a great individual that

definitely tried his absolute best to

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do that, and it's extremely unfortunate.

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and disheartening that his life had to

come to a tragic end because I think I

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feel that way about anyone on any side of

the fence, on any political view that is

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not directly negatively impacting humans.

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That is just someone that is

having conversations and someone

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that has a point of view.

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Regardless of how left

or right, controversial,

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liberal, conservative it is.

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They do deserve to have their voice.

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They do deserve to alive and

continue sharing their wisdom.

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Their thoughts and their opinions is

either articulate or inarticulate.

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They want to, long as it does not

negatively, impact the lives of others.

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Solving America's Problems
Solving America’s Problems isn’t just a podcast—it’s a journey. Co-host Jerremy Newsome, a successful entrepreneur and educator, is pursuing his lifelong dream of running for president. Along the way, he and co-host Dave Conley bring together experts, advocates, and everyday Americans to explore the real, actionable solutions our country needs.

With dynamic formats—one-on-one interviews, panel discussions, and more—we cut through the noise of divisive rhetoric to uncover practical ideas that unite instead of divide. If you’re ready to think differently, act boldly, and join a movement for meaningful change, subscribe now.