Episode 180

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26th Feb 2026

Do Algorithms Keep Us Crazy While Schools Lack Basic Locks? (Full)

Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley talk school safety with Paresa Noble. Dave, who helped build early social media in the late 1990s, says algorithms amplify division by keeping people crazy. He argues for the gray middle: model positivity and see constant connectivity as a generational issue kids may later view as crazy. Paresa explains Shield Our Schools unites people by seeking info from multiple angles. Most want the same things. Uvalde and media finger-pointing led her to practical entry-delay measures like upgraded locks and ballistic window film, plus mental health.

Timestamps:

  1. (00:00) Trigger Warning – Paresa Noble
  2. (01:28) School Safety as Low Hanging Fruit – achievable common ground
  3. (03:25) Cost of Protecting Schools – the financial side
  4. (06:02) Common Security Moves & Assessment Process – standard approaches
  5. (09:36) Controversial Security Products – what to consider
  6. (11:01) Under-Resourced Schools & Funding – the challenges
  7. (14:12) Engaging School Boards – building support
  8. (16:55) Overcoming Resistance & The Olive Branch – handling pushback
  9. (19:54) Mental Health as Root Cause – deeper issues
  10. (23:46) Social Media, Phones & Youth Mental Health – connectivity effects
  11. (30:22) The Role of Parents – their importance
  12. (33:57) Getting Parents Involved in Schools – how to do it
  13. (37:35) The Hard Truth About Sustained Effort – long term reality
  14. (39:43) What Gives You Hope? – positive notes
  15. (44:22) Paresa's Origin Story – how it started
  16. (48:57) Lightning Round – quick questions
  17. (50:39) What Did You Learn? – reflections
  18. (50:45) Bipartisan School Safety Measures – cross party agreement
  19. (51:49) Dave's Takeaway: Priorities & Anger – shifting focus
  20. (53:15) Shame on Us: Funding & Priorities – hard look
  21. (53:59) A Ministry: Getting Involved – deeper involvement
  22. (54:19) Schools Without Locks – current state
  23. (54:48) Closing & Subscribe – wrap up

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Transcript
Jerremy:

Every school day, parents send their kids off, trusting that

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the doors are locked and adults are

ready, but too often weak spots pop up.

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Pro entries missed gap turns and routines

eventually and can turn into tragedy.

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What if we grabbed low hanging fixes

like better locks, rallying communities

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around upgrades that work right now?

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No politics required.

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My name is Jerremy Alexander Newsom

with my co-host Dave Conley, and

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this is Solving America's Problems,

On Our Guns and America Series.

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From rights to reform to root causes,

we're focusing on school safety.

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With my dear friend, Paresa Noble,

founder of Shield Our School's

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Foundation, and CEO of Noble Media.

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a keynote speaker who dives into the

overlooked details, guiding parents,

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teachers, and leaders from awareness

to actions that protect kids.

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Paresa, welcome to the show.

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Paresa: Thank Jerremy and Dave,

I'm very excited to be here.

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Thanks for having me.

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Jerremy: Yeah, it's gonna be incredible.

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you've said before when we, me and

Dave were there together with you

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at the shield, our School Foundation

gala, which was really remarkable.

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At some stage you mentioned that

school safety is the low hanging fruit.

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What did you mean by that?

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Paresa: I feel like whenever

something like this happens, a

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tragedy like this happens, the

conversation gravitates toward that.

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Gun control of mental health,

which are valid points.

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There are things that should be discussed,

but we also have to come to terms with

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the weight of those solutions, right?

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When you start talking about changing

the constitution or you start talking

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about a complex issue of how to deal with

these versatile mental health issues that

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could be, attributing to these issues,

you look at a problem with, a very heavy.

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Complex solution that won't be as

easy to get across the finish line.

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when we talk about school shootings,

it is a very complex issue and those

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things still, of course, need to be

discussed, but the low hanging fruit.

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It's, It's, right in front of us.

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But since the conversation

doesn't often go to to that

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point, it's often overlooked.

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And when you start really looking at

how these school shootings have unfolded

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in the past, looking at how these

shooters are entering the school, how

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are they even accessing the school or

the students to do something like this?

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writing is on the wall, and it is low

hanging fruit because simple upgrades

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such as, enhancing the locks on the

exterior of the building, that's

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something that's not very high cost,

and it makes a world of a difference.

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So that's what I mean

by low hanging fruit.

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I think there's, when you look at the

whole problem and every detail of it,

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it becomes very evident that these small

fixes could make all the difference.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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And to your point, one of my favorite

aspects of this, right, politics Aside,

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left, right, Democrat, Republican,

middle, independent, libertarian.

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One of the things that we discussed

at the gala was, and can you tell

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our listeners what's the cost right

now of protecting a singular school,

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' Paresa: cause as we're going through

our whole process, we're evaluating

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different schools and the different gaps.

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So it depends on.

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Where the school wants to put their

energy and their resources into.

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We've had schools do, bullet

resistant window film or, security

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film for $5,000 on their school.

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This was a smaller school as a smaller

private school and Colorado that

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was able to do it for that number.

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and then you look at it, it's.

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It's communication upgrades, making

sure all the teachers have a way to

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talk to each other in the case of

an emergency, something like that.

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We, we gave a school a $4,000 grant

and they were able to get a fully new

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communication system for their teachers.

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So it just depends on

what we're looking at.

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But even, I mean, just with technology

today, we talk about AI all the time.

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There are cameras that have the AI

technology that can detect someone walking

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up to the school with a firearm and

immediately notify police that costs $600.

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Dave: Wow.

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Paresa: So it's, it's, there's

billions of dollars in, in tax

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dollars that could be allocated here.

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that could help.

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Right.

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But it's also, it's, learned

a lot through this process.

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'cause you have different levels of

the system works, whether it be a

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public school district or if it's

charter schools or private schools.

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Private schools and charter schools

don't necessarily have the same access

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to that funding, that state level or

federal funding that public schools do.

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And then even when public schools

do, it depends on the city.

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inner city schools often have

less than their counterparts.

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So it's, there's, it's not a

consistent playing field as far

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as the resources that every school

has, number one and number two, it's

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just a matter of really looking at.

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What's the problem and what could

be the fixes that we install or

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implement, and they, they aren't

as expensive as we think they are.

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Another reason why it's low hanging fruit.

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Jerremy: Right.

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Well, you used the word billions.

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I mean, again, some quick Google

searches, and just to use your

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numbers, right, $5,000 per school.

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And a hundred thousand elementary and

secondary schools that are public in

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the us, that's 500 million, which is a

rounding error in our defense budget.

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Paresa: Wow, isn't that crazy to

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Jerremy: It is.

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It actually, it actually is kind of crazy.

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Dave, I, I saw that you had a question.

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Dave: So in your experience, given

that, with schools, unlike our defense

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department, like there's, there's,

there's always prioritization.

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Are there common security moves

that get sold but don't change much?

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Or do you, or do you provide any

guidance to schools being like, like

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maybe, maybe try this and not that,

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Paresa: yeah.

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it's an interesting.

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It's an interesting landscape

because we want to give the

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schools as much autonomy as we can.

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We want to provide the funding, and

we want them because they know their

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school, they know their student body,

they know their administration, they know

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their gaps, at the same time, there is

a level of expertise that comes with.

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How we assess the school.

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So we have, the chief of our

local sheriff department on our

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board, and she is helping us

lead the site visits that we do.

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she's looking for the main things.

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I think number one, which you'd be,

you'd think this is already happening,

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the exterior of the school being

able to be fully locked and secure.

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There's many schools, shouldn't say it's

a lot of schools, but there are definitely

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schools out there that maybe have a

lock on the exterior that doesn't work.

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or it malfunctions.

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That was the case in Uvalde, Texas.

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Actually, the shooter in, at Rob

Elementary School, back in, I believe

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it was 2023, the teacher went out

to her car to get food to bring in.

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She saw the shooter coming and she

went inside, she closed the door and

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the door was supposed to lock, but it

malfunctioned and he just walked right in.

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And we all know what happened there.

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it's, that is an extreme scenario, but

it's also, there are small things that

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can be done just on the exterior that

would make the world of a difference.

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And then when you go deeper.

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look at window film, I mean, when

we're on the conversation of hardening,

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hardening a school, it really all comes

down to number one priority, I would say.

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Is the exterior in the case that there

is a threat, how can we lock down the

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school and know that it is fully secure?

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If there are any broken locks, if

there are, walls that instead of

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being walls, there are windows.

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Those are probably the priority items.

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And then you start kind of

looking at all the other options.

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There's the cameras that I mentioned.

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There's communications, there's so many

different, Products and services that have

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come out in recent years, just because

this has become such a big problem.

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there's, there's something called Red

Bag, which is a, a program that you

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can roll out at an entire school where

they put red bags in every classroom

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and it has every supply that you would

need in the case of an emergency.

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It has a QR code that when it

happens, you scan it and then

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you're connected to the police.

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You're connected to the.

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To the school.

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So there's so many things as you go

more granular, but I would say number

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one, to answer your question, Dave,

it's, it's that exterior of the school

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because, I've attended a lot of, district

level school, district level meetings

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with security directors from different

districts, and the consensus is if.

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Kids are, and teachers

are behind a locked door.

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are safe.

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it's just, if we can make that locked

door be the exterior so that the person

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can't even get into the school, that's

where I would point people to start.

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And it's, it's common

sense, It just makes sense,

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Paresa.

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Do you, do you have like a common

security move that gets sold?

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A whole bunch, but doesn't

really change anything.

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Is there something that is already kind

of being implemented that just doesn't

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really have a big impact in your opinion?

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Paresa: As far as the

security element, I, I think.

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It's hard to put your finger on one

thing that doesn't necessarily work.

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There's controversial items for sure.

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For instance, i.

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I've seen door barricades as one where

you put in front of your door and

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it makes it so the door can't open.

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and that one causes the most.

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The biggest red flag because part

of the process, in the case of a

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scenario is if you don't hear anything

in the hallway, you open your door

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to sweep the hallway to make sure

there's not students in the hallway.

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So that is counterintuitive to what a

lot of the schools are teaching in their

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security trainings for their staff.

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So that's one that comes to mind.

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I mean, I'll think of some more

and we'll, we'll explore as we

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kind of go, but I think that's

the main one that comes to mind.

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And, I, I really feel like any

initiative to harden a school or make

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an upgrade on a security front, it

doesn't fall on, empty territory.

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It's

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Paresa: Especially in today's world.

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Jerremy: Yep.

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And so for a school that's

under-resourced, what are the

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moves that you really push for,

that you would love to see come

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into common practice?

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Paresa: It's, it's tough 'cause

these schools need to pay their

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teachers well and they need to.

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Buy books and they need to, there's

so many other costs that would go into

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academia to make a school great and to

make sure their students are thriving.

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That's where the budget should go to.

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Right.

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So I look at the resources, your,

your question was, these schools

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that are under-resourced, where

should, where should they go?

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Jerremy: Yeah, exactly.

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Like is, there is, should there

be more government grants?

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Should it be a public thing?

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Should we increase taxes

for it specifically?

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I mean, what are, what would

you really like to push

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for?

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Paresa: Sure.

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I think this specific question and

applies to public schools, right?

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Because private and charter kind of

don't, charter sometimes falls into

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receiving the resources, but when

you're looking at public schools, it's.

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tough to say, let's raise taxes, right?

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Because not fun.

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Nobody wants to pay more taxes.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Paresa: I, I just look at our district

here in Colorado and they recently

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passed, a bond, that is specifically for

types of security upgrades, and it's.

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Probably millions multimillions of dollars

that's going to this district specifically

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for those things, and is a solution.

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I mean, that's number one, but

it's also, you mentioned it,

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it's a rounding error, right?

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We have the money.

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The money is there already

for this type of upgrade.

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I think the big gap when you

look at public schools is.

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Number one, do these districts have a

point person or a grant writer to go

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after the grants that are out there?

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there's also, Matthew McConaughey

started a really wonderful foundation

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called, the Greenlight Foundation, and

they actually support public schools in

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applying for those grants and getting

the money to make those upgrades.

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So there are resources out there for,

people to take advantage of the money.

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I'd say just looking at a local level,

'cause I'm getting very intimate

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with how it's laid out in Colorado.

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and it's very different

district to district.

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Dave: Wow.

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Paresa: not a blanket approach to this.

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I think every district.

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county is rolling out different

things, different strategies,

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whether it be through a bond that

was passed in, I wanna say it was

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2024 that is now being implemented

across the district, or if it's.

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just leveraging the money that they've

raised themselves at the school to

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make upgrades, or if it's leveraging

foundations like Shield schools, to

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get a grant and help supplement their

academia budget so that their money

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can stay put for books and teacher

salaries and improving the student

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experience rather than the security.

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Right.

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Jerremy: Yep.

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So speaking about the district, going

district to district, how do you talk

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to a school board right now in a way

that also keeps it at a problem solving

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level instead of like a shouting match?

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Is it something that you do in person?

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Are you doing it via email?

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Was that.

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like priest.

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So walk us through it.

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Paresa: So up to this point it's

been very direct, one-on-one.

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I think it helps when we have, Just

what we've been able to do thus far.

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Our foundation has two years under

its belt, and we've handed a grant

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over to a handful of schools, and

that alone has started making these

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school board leaders want to sit

down with us and these security

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directors want to sit down with us.

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So I think to get to that point, it

was very much, me going out there and.

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of course, but nobody,

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Jerremy: Right.

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Paresa: Nobody

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Jerremy: I don't like email.

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Paresa: I know, right?

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Jerremy: Yep.

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Paresa: it's, very much

getting into the right rooms.

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There's, again, every district is

different, but there's programs

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where parents can get involved and

that's where I started, right, is

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how can I into the conversation or

get connected to these people at

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community events that they open up.

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To everybody.

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And then it's finding the right people

to then go build that relationship,

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tell them what we are doing.

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And once people know what we're

after, and they see that it truly

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is a bipartisan effort to bring

people together, it's, it's hard

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to argue these strategies, right?

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Paresa: hard to say, oh no, I

don't want to make sure that

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all the doors lock at my school.

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it's just a matter of, I think the

biggest hurdle that I've come across.

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Jerremy: Tell us.

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Paresa: This is a very,

sensitive topic, you

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Paresa: A principal or as a

superintendent, there's a lot on your

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shoulders far as how you're handling.

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This and keeping everybody safe.

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So I think there is a little bit

of hesitancy for some of these

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leaders to even talk about it.

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That is what has been interesting

to me is, whether it be for security

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reasons or they wanna hold their cards

close to their chest, or they just.

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Are kind of walking in the

line of, oh, we're good.

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it's not gonna happen here.

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We've already done all the things.

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Whatever the reason may be.

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There have has definitely been, at least

probably I'd say half of the schools

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that I've talked to or tried to get

this in front of, that is the response.

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It's, or lack thereof we're okay.

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We don't need it.

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Dave: Does that,

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Paresa: interesting.

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Dave: Does that change how you sell it?

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Like, selling something into

fear, that's, that's tough.

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'cause we hear that with a number of

things, whether it's, like if you don't

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do this, something really bad will happen.

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Paresa: Mm-hmm.

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Dave: I mean like, this is

at the center of this, but is

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there, is there other ways?

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I mean the, the like, the friction

points between government and kids and

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schools and parents and bureaucracy.

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Where's your easiest path for

these, all these different places.

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Hmm.

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Paresa: I think it's the olive branch

of, I would say all these schools that

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we are giving grants to, God forbid

anything happens to them, but the one

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thing it does do is give peace of mind.

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Right.

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I think there's, you guys have kids

and I don't, I'm not sure if there're.

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or in schools or where they're at.

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But ultimately I can speak for

myself and many of my friends when

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I'm sending my kids to school,

it's, I don't wanna think about it.

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I probably think about it

more often because I do, I'm

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in this line of work, right?

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But I don't think I'm alone

in the sense that we live in,

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of just feeling that sense of.

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gonna give you an extra

big hug this morning.

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Have a great day.

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I think

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Paresa: it's an underlying fear

that nobody wants to think about

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because it's so, so horrible.

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I think that's the olive branch is,

and I think that's where the invisible

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line is of these people who necessarily

don't want to talk about it because it's

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really leaning into the discomfort the

conversation to find the solution and.

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it's, it's a matter of being

uncomfortable to solve a problem

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before it could ever happen, and

I think that's the olive branches.

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this isn't gonna happen.

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You guys have taken the measures.

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You guys know how to lead the school.

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You have security trainings.

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You guys are already set.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Paresa: Here's an added

layer of protection.

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Here's some extra money for you to add.

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Whatever you see as the gap.

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Some schools are very anti AI

camera, I think rightfully so

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too, because it's not fully yet.

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I think there's, it's very

close, but there was recently a.

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Situation at a school that had implemented

that technology it mistook a kid's Doritos

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bag for a firearm, that kid got searched

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Dave: Oof.

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Paresa: Into a whole thing.

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So I think rightfully so, there's a

lot of schools that are hesitant to

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roll out AI powered surveillance at

their school for obvious reasons.

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but it, it doesn't have to be that, right?

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It could be as simple as here, get

some new walkie talkies, get some,

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like a universal lock in inside

the school for all the doors.

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there's so many that you could

do with the money, right?

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Dave: Like you're, you're already cooking.

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Here's a spatula.

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Paresa: Yeah.

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Jerremy: So for our listeners, you have

one of my favorite books behind You.

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Start With Why by Simon Sinek,

and I know what we're discussing

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really to your point, a pretty easy

implementation for schools of, hey,

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we can spend this amount of money.

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And we at least know that the security

measures of every school in the

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nation have increased dramatically,

and there's a lot better benefits.

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across a lot of our previous

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A lot of violence and self-harm

is concentrated in young men,

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just from your vantage point,

working on school prevention.

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about why this keeps showing

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cause of this is mental health

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Paresa: and.

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I mentioned it briefly at the beginning,

it's, it's a very, mental health

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Jerremy: And it's huge, so, yep.

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about high school and below,

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you're dealing with minors,

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Paresa: so that it adds a whole

layer of complexity of how are you

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able to get somebody to reach the

person who is struggling before

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something like this occurred.

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it's

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Paresa: but I think there are, there

are and solutions that are being rolled

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out now that it's becoming more of a

conversation, but that is what it is.

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I mean, you, you made an interesting

point that it's young men, right?

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That will self harm

more often than others.

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that data point alone tells a story.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Paresa: And it's working backwards

from that vantage point to dial

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Paresa: and I'll say, we have our

next board meeting for our foundation

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coming up this Friday, and that's

something that we're discussing is up

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to this point, we've been very security

focused and we'll continue to do that.

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Paresa: But

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Jerremy: But.

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Paresa: there was a shooting up

in Evergreen at Evergreen High

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School just a few months ago, and

those students are still living

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with the trauma of that experience.

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I think this conversation, it goes

beyond, of course, the victims, the

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family of the victims, but the students

that have to go back to this school

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the next week something like this

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with them, there is.

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We have someone on our board who

went to Columbine High School and

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he was a freshman at Columbine

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Dave: Oof.

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he was recently on my podcast.

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You guys will have to listen to him.

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but I mean, the, the things that

he saw and felt that week, going

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back, it was hard to grasp.

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So this mental health

conversation and the trauma.

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Of the people before

anything like this happens.

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But then also the conversation of how's

the mental health of the student body

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and the teachers and the faculty after

something like this happens at a school.

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It's such a huge, it's a mountain

and it's something that we

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need to climb and, and address.

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Right.

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it's just, it's gonna

take a, a big effort.

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Mm-hmm.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Well, I mean, the realization, again

without opening up a ginormous ball

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of yarn, but the realization has

to be, we've made such dramatic

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societal changes in the last 20 years.

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And the way we as a nation, and as

a society, and as a country, and as

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a globe are updating our resources

for it is falling massively behind.

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So I'll just pick social

media as an example.

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The average age of someone who gets

a phone these days is six and a half.

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Dave: Oh.

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Jerremy: And so by the age of seven,

I mean, I'm addicted to my phone.

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I'm an entrepreneur.

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You're addicted to your phone.

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Dave's addicted to his, we're

all addicted to our phones.

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It's not a good thing.

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It's also not the worst

thing in the world.

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There's a lot of benefits to it, but

ultimately, imagine being addicted to

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your phone, to electronics, to social

media, to the dopamine response at seven

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and a half, eight years old, and then.

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Everyone around you has it in in

school, and then you have all the

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conversations around how fast you can

access literally anything good or bad.

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So probably bad, A lot of negatives,

just the speed at which we're changing.

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then you go into the

educational component.

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You go into the educational system, you

go into the mental health approximations,

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you go into the therapeutic.

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Discussions that probably aren't

actually happening in schools either.

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You really start understanding

why we are not only as a nation,

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but really as a globe facing.

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Pretty radical changes in mental health

is because we are changing so fast

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every single year, new technologies,

new conversations, new access points

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to your mental health are popping up

everywhere, and we're just not, we

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don't have a class that's discussing it.

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Right.

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You have math, you have

science, you have history.

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Cool.

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Those have been staples

forever, but we do not have a.

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Mental health class where you just

have to, and you get to discuss

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openly fears, your feelings, your

thoughts, your worries, your concerns.

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You and I have done that at so many men,

conferences that we've attended Priest

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in the past, and it feels so good as a

grown adult to do it for 10 whole minutes,

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Paresa: It

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Jerremy: right?

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And you, and you release and

you understand, and you have

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awareness and you're like, oh,

wow, that's been my holding block.

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Or that's been my limiting belief or

that's been my container that I've

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realized and I've processed so much

information over the last 10 years.

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But I do feel like just simply at some

stage, implementing basic tweaks and

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adjustments to something like that would

also create a really big or, or some level

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of shift if I would be so bold to say so.

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Paresa: Oh yeah.

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I mean, the first thing that comes

to mind, and I don't know what

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you guys think about this, but I'm

looking at, I think it was Australia.

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I think the UK is looking at it

at a minimum age for social media.

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To be legal, which, you just look at how

So if somebody's getting bullied, 'cause

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usually it'll be something like that.

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Someone who's been picked on, who has

been hurt, who wants to hurt others.

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When you look at that alone, it used

to be when we were kids that you

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would take it at school and you'd

come home and you'd be able to unplug.

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But today.

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take it at school and then

they come home and they get on

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their phone and it continues.

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They see it.

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People messaging them,

people on social media.

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Layer that into how much kids that age

are comparing themselves to others.

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I mean, that alone, Jerremy, you

bring up a great point of our phones.

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I mean.

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That alone would make a dramatic

difference, in my opinion, when it

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comes to the mental health conversation.

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Because you, I mean, if we're looking

at student counselors, right, that's

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another resource issue, right?

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If our schools had unlimited resources

and they could pay for a healthy staff

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of, of counselors, make sure that they

have, kind of like a watch program

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and make sure they're keeping a pulse

on how students are treating each

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other, et cetera, that'd be great.

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We can work toward that.

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But it's also looking at what is the

root cause that's accelerated this mental

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health crisis that's happening right now.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Paresa: our phones at a, at too young of

an age when you're not mature enough to

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handle other people's opinions of you.

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'cause you don't even know yourself yet.

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It's, it's a big conversation

and I don't know that that would

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ever happen in America, but it's

happening in other countries.

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So who's to say it won't?

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Jerremy: It.

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It is a big conversation.

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I mean, let's just take the

obvious statement, right?

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Again, all three of us are entrepreneurs.

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We go post something, let's call

it an opinion piece or a story.

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Or a photo.

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All right, let's call, we all

post a photo and we get three.

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People are like, bro, looking pretty fat.

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I mean, I'm gonna be negatively

impacted for like 30 seconds.

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Like, what?

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Whoa, dude, are we talking about?

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wh what?

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Why are you attacking what's

happening in middle school?

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Paresa: Yeah.

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Jerremy: Like if you're in

middle school, I mean, you're

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getting picked on relentlessly.

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Paresa: Mm-hmm.

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Jerremy: And now to add onto the component

of all the posts and all the pictures.

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And all the images.

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I mean, it is something to, to ver to be

very aware of, like random fact, right?

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Okay.

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In you, United States of America, you

can't drink alcohol until you're 21.

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There's a very strong age for who can

drink alcohol in different countries,

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although it's usually around 18 or 16.

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It's definitely older, right,

which would just belabor the point.

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Okay.

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Well there's some level of

awareness that people are like,

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Hmm, it's an addictive property.

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It's an addictive substance.

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there's not tons of compelling evidence

that's extremely beneficial and positive.

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Maybe we should like limit this

access until you're a certain age.

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I mean, I get it.

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I mean, 'cause you asked the question

like how do we feel about it?

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I mean, I'm over here thinking to myself.

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I am intentionally limiting my children's

access to social media as strongly

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as I can, and the thus the reason

of all the gray hairs on my face.

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Because also, anytime we go to a

restaurant or anytime we fly on a plane

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or anytime that we're out in public,

I don't give my kids iPads or phones.

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And so I have to, as a parent, put

up with the running around, the

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yelling, the chasing the, the, the kid

life, right where I'm there and I'm

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trying to do my best to be present.

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And it is, it's just an awareness

piece where you're like, listen.

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zero chance that giving a kid an

incredibly addictive substance, AKA,

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dopamine, a, k, a, your phone, a K, a

constant attachment, constant information,

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constant feedback, both positive and

negative, and to have no control over

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that, or no bearing of, is this right

or is this wrong, or is this too early?

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Not to even have the conversation.

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Seems wild to me.

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Paresa: You bring up another good point.

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I think the hand.

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A parent's hand in this

conversation is another humongous

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factor on multiple levels.

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Jerremy: huge.

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Paresa: I mean, you look at

number one, giving them a phone

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too early that that goes without

saying it's the easy thing to do.

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Here's your iPad,

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Jerremy: It's easy.

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Paresa: me a minute, right?

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That's number one is you're

a parent for a reason.

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Handle the chaos a little bit

before pacifying with with

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a screen, and that's easier.

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Said than done, and

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Jerremy: Yeah, we get it.

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Paresa: a lot.

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Jerremy: We get it.

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Paresa: I'm not judging, my kids are on

it too, but I think that's number one.

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Number two being in tune

with your own kids'.

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Mental health.

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I mean,

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Paresa: that's a very element

and it's a question of how can

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we guide parents to do that?

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Some families have a better.

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Home life than others.

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And that's always gonna be the case.

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So it's how do we identify the families

that maybe need more support and give

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them what they need and give the parents

what they need to navigate the chaos of,

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middle school or high school with grace

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Paresa: without losing connection.

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'cause I think that it starts

at home a hundred percent.

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It starts at home.

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Jerremy: It does.

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Yeah.

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And, offering incentives, offering,

positive, positive incentives for parents.

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I don't know what that looks like

right now, or yet, but again, I mean,

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everything is changing so quickly.

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Like these are at least conversations

that should be, that should be had,

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that should be aware as, as a parent.

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You mentioned earlier, no

one likes paying taxes.

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I was like, okay, cool.

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If I can get some type of

tax benefit, right, maybe.

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you start coming up with just, again,

bigger conversations where people are

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aware of it, where people are more

openly talking about it because there,

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there is gonna be that component where

we to realize the, the speed at which

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technology has changed the family unit.

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And, the both positive and negative

causes that it has and just be more

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open and aware of it will create

big, big shifts and it has to,

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it has to be

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addressed more often, more frequently.

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Paresa: It does.

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I love the idea of incentives.

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one I'll throw out here, I think

we should make family vacations,

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a tax write off, because it's

incentivizing quality time together.

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Jerremy: Mm.

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Paresa: take a

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Paresa: your kids, with your

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Paresa: that, that.

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Jerremy: Yep.

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That makes sense.

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I get it.

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Yeah, I get it.

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Paresa: is the incentives, the resources

that are out there for parents.

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there's so many accounts on, on

social that you could follow as

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a parent that teaches you how to

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Jerremy: To navigate.

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Paresa: a group on Facebook

called Parenting In a Tech World.

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It has probably like 60,000 people in it.

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If you're not in it, you should be in it

because it's, it's just a community for

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parents to figure out how do we navigate?

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Roblox or my teenagers getting

on our phone in the middle of

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the night, like, what do we do?

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So it's, it's having the community as

parents for us to come together and

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figure it out together because it is hard.

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I mean, what we're doing is hard as

parents and it's when you can plug

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in and find a way to get tuned into

your teenager who often doesn't

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wanna talk to you, that's the key.

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And it

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Paresa: huge difference in the

conversation of this topic.

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Jerremy: Yeah, you brought up a

really cool idea, I mean, I love

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the, the incident of the tax

write off for the family vacation.

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I mean, again, just as a

fun idea to spitball things.

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From a community standpoint, how and what

do we think we could do to get parents

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more involved with the school system?

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Because I think all three of us

also are probably aware that that's

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gonna be a net net positive as well.

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Paresa: How do we get parents more

involved in the school system?

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it's, it's a matter of

them just becoming aware.

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'cause I feel like it's too pronged.

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It's becoming aware of how.

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important it is in the sense of,

you actually can make a difference

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by attending these meetings and.

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Speaking up

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Paresa: into the school, have a say.

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I feel like so often with a lot of

things, people from getting involved

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'cause they're like, what's the point?

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It's not even gonna make a difference.

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Jerremy: Yep.

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Paresa: when you actually start.

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your hand and getting involved,

impact that you can have is huge.

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And I feel like often we look at

that impact and think, no, not me.

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Like what am I gonna bring to the table?

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What am I gonna, how am I gonna

convince the school board to change

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this policy or change this or add this?

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easier than you think, and I think it's

the awareness of the fact that it is

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easier than you think because we're

all people, we all want the same thing.

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We want our students to be safe.

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We want our faculty to be safe.

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We want our kids to get a good education.

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When you find those olive

branches of what's, what are

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the things that all of us want?

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And then you simply try

and are persistent there.

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There is a lot that can be done.

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I also will say, I mean, joining

the, it's, it's when we have a

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society that is both mom and dad.

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At work, right?

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Because when you have one parent

that's home, it's easier for that

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one parent to plug into PTO or

plug into, what's going on at

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Jerremy: Yep.

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Paresa: I think the reason why people

have become more detached from school

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is because, parents have to go to work.

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You need to have a double

income majority of the time.

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So it's, I also think a lot

of that responsibility might

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also come down to employers.

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Being cognizant of that and allowing their

employees to take the time to get involved

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or incentivizing them to get involved.

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:

It's when you zoom out on this

conversation, it affects, The

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solution can be in the hands of

really anybody, employers, parents,

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community lead leaders when if you're

an entrepreneur and you have a business,

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:

maybe that's something to consider.

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How can you inspire your workforce to go

get plugged in and, and closer with their

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family and to get involved in the school.

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So there's just so many angles that

you can kind of attack this from

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and I think it's important to do

it from all angles, quite frankly,

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'cause this is such a huge issue.

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every time it happens.

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Everyone's hearts are,

are just broken, right?

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And everybody jumps to

what can we do to fix this?

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:

Often it goes to the conversation

of gun control, but we can evolve

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:

that conversation and make it

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Paresa: there is more that can be

done right, and then a few weeks

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:

passes and it's like everybody kind

of settles back down forgets about

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it until the next time it happens.

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That's been the cycle that

we've been in, so it's just a

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matter of understanding that.

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As a parent, you have more power than

you think, and you can have a bigger

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impact than you think if you just try.

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Jerremy: Yeah, and I think that's

really probably the hardest truth

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:

about safety that good people

do not want to face, which is.

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It is gonna be everybody, and

you're gonna have to kind of

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:

continually plug away at it.

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There's not gonna be a, oh,

there's a school shooting.

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Let's get this resolved in a week.

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:

And then it's always better.

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There is going to be people that are

going to be required to just keep

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showing up at it and keep chipping away

even though it feels daunting there

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are bigger changes that are happening.

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And that's, that's really

the requirement that's.

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The ugly truth of it all is there's

gonna be periods of time where everything

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kind of feels but we need to keep going

until we can find ways where we can

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truly, truly say there's not been a mass

school shooting in the country for years.

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And

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Paresa: Right.

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Jerremy: that's only way for that to

happen is you're gonna have to have

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a select group of people, individuals

that just have to choose that mission.

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And just keep going at it

and just keep choosing day

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:

after day after day to fix it.

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Paresa: That's right.

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And I think, just going back to

the conversation of security.

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:

You look at, there was a school,

and I wanna say it was Wisconsin.

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:

don't quote me on that, but it was horrid

middle school where they had an active

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shooter situation, but the shooter could

not get into the school because they

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had the bullet resistant window film.

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They had secure locks and everybody

was safe, and it gave them enough

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time to, stay locked down police came.

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And took care of it.

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And so this, this works and it's

something that can happen now today

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where we don't have to wait for

legislation to pass for complex

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mental health initiatives to roll out.

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It's something that can happen right

now until those bigger mountains move.

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:

Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Paresa: that's essentially why

we're doing what we're doing

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with Shield our Schools, and it's

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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:

Yeah.

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:

I love that.

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:

Well, while you plug in your

computer, Presa, Dave, what's, what

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gives you real hope when you look

at how divided the country feels?

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Dave: Well, so one of, one piece of

it is sort of like the, the white

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pill of like, well, what we see

online isn't a reflection of society

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and isn't a reflection of people.

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It's a reflection of algorithms and,

that that is not our reality and we

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are so much closer than we are, apart.

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And that that online and social media.

754

:

Makes money.

755

:

Everyone who's involved in that,

everyone who has stock in it, those

756

:

make money by keeping us crazy.

757

:

And I know this because I helped

build it, like I was there in 19

758

:

96, 19 97, 19 98, building the bomb.

759

:

And, and that's, that's on me, right?

760

:

And I can spend the next, part

of my life helping fix that.

761

:

So, like there's, there's a optimism

that I have is that, it isn't,

762

:

it isn't as bad as you think.

763

:

And on the other hand, so on the

other hand is sort of like the black

764

:

pill of, of, we can't do anything.

765

:

And, and like we, we

might as well give up.

766

:

And I think that the reality is actually

in between sort of a gray, is yes, things.

767

:

be more positive.

768

:

Be like, say that things are better than

they aren't, and say it to everybody

769

:

you know, and say it to your neighbor.

770

:

Say it to your friends.

771

:

Say it to your family, and

lift people up that way.

772

:

Be the example.

773

:

And rather than saying, we can't

do anything because of the powers

774

:

that be and the politics and the

divisiveness and the left and the

775

:

right, and the up and the down.

776

:

reality is, is that.

777

:

We are facing generational issues.

778

:

Like you, you, both of you are the

first generation of being online

779

:

and always connected, and your,

your kids are a product of that.

780

:

And I think, they will and maybe

their kids will probably look back.

781

:

Like I do on my parents, which

is like, you really drank and

782

:

smoked, like all the time.

783

:

like I look back at that

and like, that's crazy.

784

:

I think, your kids and their kids will

kind of look back at this time and be

785

:

like, well that was a little crazy.

786

:

like, and this is what

we can learn from 'em.

787

:

So like, I think there's an upward

trajectory there for, for being human.

788

:

So I, because it's a generational thing.

789

:

Just having this conversation

and highlighting things and

790

:

saying, Hey, this is what works.

791

:

giving, empowering you, the parents

today to make, just small changes in

792

:

how they get engaged with schools,

how they engage with their kids.

793

:

and pushing for reforms today

really pays dividends in the future.

794

:

Jerremy: Parisa, what gives you real hope

795

:

when you look at how divided

the country feels, especially

796

:

on this particular topic?

797

:

Paresa: Good question.

798

:

I think for

799

:

me it's been leaning into the

discomfort of this specific topic

800

:

because I think before we started

this, we even were feeling that despair

801

:

of why is everything So divided?

802

:

But once we dug into this work, it

opened our eyes quite a bit just because.

803

:

Yes.

804

:

Our goal with Shield Schools is to

protect students, protect families,

805

:

but it's also to unite people and

bring people together through our

806

:

events, through our initiatives.

807

:

And in doing that, it has

made us lean into more than

808

:

just what's on our algorithm.

809

:

It's made us lean into more than

just the typical news outlets

810

:

that we get our information from.

811

:

It's made us absorb information from

every angle about every topic, and when

812

:

you do that, it, it shows one thing to

me that we honestly, we have more in

813

:

common than we do apart, and we all want

the same things when you look at the

814

:

media or how information is being shared.

815

:

It's often the extremes that

make the headlines not the norm.

816

:

the norm is more grounded than we are made

to believe, and we have, like I said, more

817

:

in common than we are made to believe,

and I think leaning into the discomfort

818

:

of hearing out the devil's advocate.

819

:

Is what kind of opens your eyes to that.

820

:

And I think that's what gives me hope at

least, is because I have felt that, and

821

:

I've been on pursuit of that personally.

822

:

and it,

823

:

Dave: Can,

824

:

Jerremy: Yeah, go ahead and Dave.

825

:

Dave: can you talk a little

bit about your leadership?

826

:

Like, like one of our very first

interviews on school safety was

827

:

with, Lori, whose daughter Alyssa.

828

:

Passed in, it was, well, I shouldn't

say passed, was killed in Parkland.

829

:

And I know you've, you've

spoken about Valdi.

830

:

when did things stop being news for

you and became a a, when you became

831

:

a leader in this?

832

:

What

833

:

Paresa: Hmm.

834

:

Dave: I mean, what was that?

835

:

What, when did things

836

:

flip for you?

837

:

Paresa: I think it was a couple things.

838

:

I have two kids, they're young.

839

:

and my son was getting ready to go

into kindergarten when UDI happened.

840

:

And it's up to that point.

841

:

You have incident after incident

after incident, and it's that cycle.

842

:

It's, oh my gosh, I can't

believe this is happening.

843

:

And then a few weeks pass and

everybody kind of moves on from

844

:

it and then another one happens.

845

:

And that has been the

cycle up to that point.

846

:

And it just, at first it was just

heavy on the heart as a parent, right?

847

:

It wasn't until the shooting at

Uvalde, Texas that really, inspired

848

:

us to get involved with this

conversation, because I'll never forget.

849

:

We were at dinner, my husband and

I, we went out to to dinner, about

850

:

three or four days after what

happened at Rob Elementary School,

851

:

and they had TVs on at the restaurant.

852

:

Every single TV was on a

different news station.

853

:

you had M-S-N-B-C, you had

Fox, you had CNN every side.

854

:

and they were all talking

about the same thing.

855

:

They were talking about Rob Elementary

School and every single one.

856

:

Instead of talking about.

857

:

The details of it or things that

are actually information they were

858

:

talking about, the opinions of it, and

pointing fingers at it's their fault.

859

:

It's the other side's fault.

860

:

It's because of this, it's because

of that, and it's that moment for

861

:

both my husband and I was infuriating

because we have a situation

862

:

where, I think it was 19 children.

863

:

Have been killed and we're

talking about the politics of it.

864

:

And I remember asking him, how can

somebody even access a, school like this?

865

:

Like how could somebody just walk in?

866

:

I remember when I was young

and I was in, in school, it was

867

:

hard to get into the school.

868

:

you can just walk through the back door.

869

:

So we looked it up and it was

because the door lock was broken.

870

:

And then a couple weeks later, we

actually ended up registering the.

871

:

A foundation that night as

an entity with the state of

872

:

Colorado at, on our dinner date.

873

:

We've had more romantic dinner dates

than that very productive evening.

874

:

but a couple weeks, or I don't know how

long after, a little while after the

875

:

shooting at the Covenant in Nashville

happened and that person shot through

876

:

the window and it's like, okay, this?

877

:

keeps happening.

878

:

Where it's things that.

879

:

Could be fixed or solved for

that they're even entering

880

:

the school in the first place.

881

:

If there's ballistic window film on

there, it's not to say that it's gonna

882

:

be a hundred percent bulletproof that

the bullets won't even enter the school.

883

:

It's to say that it's gonna

take ammo away from the shooter

884

:

and it's gonna slow them down.

885

:

Those two things alone

could save a lot of lives.

886

:

So that's why, I mean, we had, we started.

887

:

The entity.

888

:

and it sat there for probably like

six months because both my husband

889

:

and I were thinking, we both already

have, work school, we, we are so

890

:

busy, how are we going to do this?

891

:

But it was one of those things

where, it just kept happening

892

:

and it kept proving our point.

893

:

And for us, we are just very,

we, we like to solve problems.

894

:

So it's very much looking at.

895

:

This is a very obvious solution

and nobody's talking about it

896

:

and people who are talking about

it, it's in the government level

897

:

worth, it moves like a snail, you?

898

:

know?

899

:

So it's just how could we, roll

something out that would serve the

900

:

community and just pay the community

back, And it, it became kind of our.

901

:

Almost like our ministry in a sense

where this is our helping hand

902

:

to the community, to the country.

903

:

And it's something that has proven

itself to to work many times.

904

:

And a lot of people have come together

on it, which has been very inspiring.

905

:

Yeah.

906

:

Jerremy: Well, thank you.

907

:

Thank you for embarking on

your is helping so many people.

908

:

Let's do a lightning round with four

909

:

you wish every parent believed about?

910

:

School safety.

911

:

Paresa: make a difference in.

912

:

The school safety of both my kids

and the kids in our community

913

:

Jerremy: That's right.

914

:

That's right.

915

:

What's the cheapest fix

with the biggest payoff?

916

:

Paresa: enhanced locking mechanisms.

917

:

So update your locks.

918

:

Very simple.

919

:

Jerremy: Yep.

920

:

I love it.

921

:

What's one question every

parent should ask their school

922

:

and not accept a vague answer.

923

:

Paresa: Ask them what the safety measures

924

:

are in place today and what their

plan is in case of an emergency.

925

:

Jerremy: Yeah, and listen

really closely to that answer.

926

:

Yeah, that's a

927

:

Great,

928

:

Paresa: Mm-hmm.

929

:

Jerremy: great question.

930

:

what's one thing you've changed your

mind about since you started this

931

:

Incredible, as you call it, ministry.

932

:

Paresa: That there is an avenue

to build upon what we've done on

933

:

school security, and that is to

934

:

be a helping hand in the

conversation of mental health.

935

:

That is something that we're excited

to open the door on And explore how

936

:

we can further impact in that sense.

937

:

Jerremy: Come on, legends.

938

:

Come on.

939

:

You and Josh are such great people.

940

:

Thank you for doing what you are doing.

941

:

Thank you for contributing in such a

powerful way, and thanks for being so

942

:

remarkable and helping so many peoples.

943

:

so many schools, so many students,

so many parents, teachers, you're a

944

:

gift and a net positive to this world.

945

:

Paresa: I so appreciate it.

946

:

Thank you guys so much for having

me on and having the conversation.

947

:

I appreciate you guys.

948

:

Jerremy: likewise.

949

:

Dave: All right, my brother.

950

:

What'd you learn?

951

:

What did you learn from our dear guest?

952

:

Jerremy: What did I learn?

953

:

Well, I learned that very simple measures.

954

:

love the word bipartisan.

955

:

I didn't even know what that meant

until probably like four years ago.

956

:

This is not a politic discussion.

957

:

This is, this is,

958

:

Dave: Now.

959

:

Jerremy: to do with right,

left, right, center.

960

:

is, can we keep our kids more

safe and are there measures?

961

:

That's the very first and it's,

she mentioned we're not talking

962

:

about second amendment, we're

not talking about politic.

963

:

We can, we make our school safer with

some pretty easy measures that don't

964

:

really cost that much money, that are

pretty effective and pretty cheap.

965

:

Dave: Yeah.

966

:

Jerremy: Right.

967

:

That was the conversation and the

answer and my, my whole belief for so

968

:

long has been, yes, we can do that.

969

:

That actually is legitimately

doable and quite available to

970

:

us as a nation where we can go.

971

:

measures can simply be

instilled quickly, pretty cost

972

:

effectively, pretty efficiently.

973

:

What about you, man?

974

:

What do you think?

975

:

What?

976

:

What do you feel you learned on that one?

977

:

Dave: I think part of this still makes

me so angry, to kind of go back to, your,

978

:

your, your center of the universe, which

is, about, it's, so much of this is about

979

:

education and we, when we talk about the,

the center of our kids' education, we see.

980

:

I, and I'm talking two, at least

two of them, one of them is, is the

981

:

parents and how the parents are pulled,

a billion different directions and

982

:

like they, they're relying on the,

on the phones and the, the other, the

983

:

other aspects in order to help them.

984

:

Do what they need to do.

985

:

it's about their priorities and

ensuring that as a, as a community

986

:

and as a society, we're giving

parents everything that they need

987

:

in order to, to raise awesome kids.

988

:

And then it's the schools

and the, the schools.

989

:

I mean, nobody starts a school or, or

is running a school district or is a

990

:

principal or a teacher in a school saying,

oh, I don't wanna keep the kids safe.

991

:

Right?

992

:

Like every single one of them in the

back of their heads is like, of course,

993

:

of course we're keeping the kids safe.

994

:

Yet there is a priority somewhere

that says we need to do this.

995

:

buy books or pens or pencils or

chalk or, or whatever, whatever.

996

:

Right?

997

:

We need to do that first.

998

:

And we can't have good locks on the doors.

999

:

Come on.

:

00:53:15,784 --> 00:53:21,694

I mean, like that, that, that we've put

schools in this position a shame on us.

:

00:53:21,724 --> 00:53:25,254

That's what makes me so angry is it's

like, you said it early on, it's like,

:

00:53:25,734 --> 00:53:32,904

this is a rounding, this is, this money is

in the couch of, of the Department of War.

:

00:53:32,934 --> 00:53:33,234

Right?

:

00:53:33,234 --> 00:53:35,824

Like, like, like if somebody

just, picked, picked up a.

:

00:53:36,824 --> 00:53:39,734

Picked up a pillow on a couch

in the Pentagon, they'd be like,

:

00:53:39,764 --> 00:53:41,354

oh, here's all the money we need.

:

00:53:42,074 --> 00:53:47,174

That's, I keep learning this lesson

and maybe it'll get through my head,

:

00:53:47,534 --> 00:53:49,514

which is, it's, it's about priorities.

:

00:53:49,514 --> 00:53:52,634

It's about a, a shift in

a little bit of money.

:

00:53:52,844 --> 00:53:57,434

It's about engaging our politicians,

engaging the people who have

:

00:53:57,434 --> 00:53:59,324

power and demanding more.

:

00:53:59,354 --> 00:54:02,534

I love that she said that this

is a ministry because it is, we

:

00:54:02,534 --> 00:54:04,544

have to make this a part of us.

:

00:54:04,589 --> 00:54:08,969

it has to be deep down inside

of us and like, what's the plan?

:

00:54:09,029 --> 00:54:09,869

Get involved.

:

00:54:09,869 --> 00:54:10,799

It's about mental health.

:

00:54:10,799 --> 00:54:12,299

It's about all these things.

:

00:54:12,509 --> 00:54:14,699

that's, that's kind of

what I learned What?

:

00:54:14,758 --> 00:54:15,748

Jerremy: it's a great way to put it, man.

:

00:54:15,748 --> 00:54:18,448

Just kind of infuriating that

we've even got to this point.

:

00:54:19,448 --> 00:54:19,778

Dave: Right?

:

00:54:19,927 --> 00:54:20,287

Jerremy: wait a minute.

:

00:54:20,287 --> 00:54:22,777

There's some schools in this

country that don't have locks on the

:

00:54:22,958 --> 00:54:23,738

Dave: Locks,

:

00:54:24,037 --> 00:54:24,907

Jerremy: correctly.

:

00:54:25,148 --> 00:54:26,048

Dave: locks,

:

00:54:26,103 --> 00:54:27,663

Jerremy: Good old, good old locks.

:

00:54:27,668 --> 00:54:28,398

Don't have 'em.

:

00:54:28,403 --> 00:54:30,483

We haven't upgraded our

schools in, you know,

:

00:54:30,689 --> 00:54:30,809

Dave: come.

:

00:54:30,873 --> 00:54:31,593

Jerremy: 30 decades.

:

00:54:31,623 --> 00:54:32,913

'cause we haven't upgraded the outside.

:

00:54:32,913 --> 00:54:34,353

We haven't upgraded the inside.

:

00:54:34,934 --> 00:54:35,224

Dave: Yeah.

:

00:54:35,493 --> 00:54:36,063

Jerremy: the truth, man.

:

00:54:36,063 --> 00:54:39,903

We haven't changed the educational

system in this country at all.

:

00:54:40,289 --> 00:54:40,709

Dave: No.

:

00:54:40,863 --> 00:54:41,373

Jerremy: the point?

:

00:54:41,433 --> 00:54:42,333

No, there's no point.

:

00:54:42,963 --> 00:54:43,593

Just don't do it.

:

00:54:44,489 --> 00:54:45,959

Dave: Oh, boo

:

00:54:46,143 --> 00:54:46,353

Jerremy: Boo.

:

00:54:47,353 --> 00:54:47,573

Dave: boo.

:

00:54:48,302 --> 00:54:48,602

Jerremy: Big

:

00:54:48,628 --> 00:54:49,378

Dave: down.

:

00:54:50,098 --> 00:54:51,088

All right, my friend.

:

00:54:52,108 --> 00:54:52,918

Wrap us up.

:

00:54:53,342 --> 00:54:55,922

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privilege and pleasure as well

:

00:54:55,922 --> 00:54:57,902

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:

00:54:58,262 --> 00:55:00,662

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