Blockchain Studios at $5K and Why UBI Is Worse Than Communism

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Ron Lynch arguings UBI destroys purpose and builds surveillance.

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This last one asks what comes after

— for creators, films, cultural wealth.

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And it ends with Ron saying

something most people won't.

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Jerremy Newsome: Just

fun, fun hot take, Ron.

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What's, what's gonna happen

to Netflix with just AI,

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filmmaking, stock implications?

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Ron Lynch: Okay.

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I have my own of this.

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Jerremy Newsome: That's...

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Ron Lynch: a- again, I've, I've

hinted that there's the synthetic

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products and non-synthetic

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Jerremy Newsome: Right.

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Right.

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Ron Lynch: we had the opportunity to

take corners out of our grocery store

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and put in, VHS rentals, and I was not

the CEO, I was just an employee at the

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Jerremy Newsome: That's right.

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Ron Lynch: to not do this."

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I said, "First you got Blockbuster

that's going in everywhere, but in

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the very short term, believe that

this will all be replaced digitally

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and people won't want these tapes.

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I think we would build ourselves a

better reputation to put, bakery,

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like real patisserie quality."

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And the guy listened to me, and he

actually bought a French bakery as

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a CEO, and he put this corner in.

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And when he realized what that did

to the business, he put it ... He

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started expanding them into other

stores and doing coffee roasters.

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So the real overcame the media, right?

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So that, as a business model.

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And then Netflix happened.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Ron Lynch: And I watch Netflix, and

I was like, I do- I think these DVDs

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are going away 'cause this is a very

cumbersome delivery mechas- mechanism."

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And then Red Box came out and went,

"Oh, no, no, we can do this at the,

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the 7-11, at the grocery store."

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And I went, "Eh, I don't think that going

to the store is the solution either.

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I think it's digital."

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So digital came and wiped them both out.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Ron Lynch: Well, now it's distribution

network And it's money-making.

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the problem with Netflix and Amazon

is there is no DVD distribution,

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so there's no secondary market for

these films, and the movie theater's

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Dave: Hmm.

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Ron Lynch: So I think there's gonna

be an, a huge opportunity here.

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So that's my, that's my setup.

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So here's my, here's

my fulfillment of that.

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I believe that in five years, you could

take my screenwriting course, like that

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shameless plug, you could write your

own movie and picture the people in the

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movie as I did when Steven Spielberg

and Kathleen Kennedy called me and

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said, "You're really good at this.

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How do you do it?"

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I go, "I just picture the people, and I

start writing, and then I watch it, and it

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happens, and I write down what happens."

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gonna be able to write that movie, and

you may have friends that you picture,

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and your friends are horrible actors.

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Don't worry.

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Just take their photograph.

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Take four photos of them, and you can

make your own film, and you'll digitally

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be able to use very simple tools to

make your own series, your own films,

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whatever, and that will be uploaded

into the network that you subscribe to.

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So I'm gonna have a film company.

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I'm gonna have a film studio,

but it's gonna be for creators.

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You come in, you make your film, and

I offer you the tools to do that, and

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the licenses of the music, and all

of the legal shit you don't wanna do.

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For $5,000, you make a film.

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Anybody can make a film for five

grand, and it'll be as good as you

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can write it and make it, and it

might be as good as the Titanic.

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You might be the next James Cameron,

but the tools are gonna be that

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Jerremy Newsome: Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Ron Lynch: Now, you get to distribute

it on my platform, and I'm gonna

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charge $1 like it's 1950 to everybody

who comes to see your movie, and you

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and I are gonna split the revenue.

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So the platform's gonna get a buck, 50

cents, and you're gonna get 50 cents,

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and I'm gonna expose you to all the

other people that belong to the platform.

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and I think this is gonna happen in music.

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I think it's gonna happen in film.

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I think we're gonna have creators

that get wealthy again from their

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creations without the corporation.

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I think the corporation is on

its deathbed, and blockchain So

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that's my hope in all of this.

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I'd see...

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I am...

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Y- you hear me say terrible things about

UBI, but I have incredible hope for

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technology and blockchain that it, it

of- offers the opportunity for liberty of

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creative people to really capitalize on

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Dave: Hmm.

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Ron Lynch: kid is going to make a film

that we're going to love, and he's

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going to pay for his family's entire

future, and everybody will have an

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opportunity to have a small dynasty.

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.

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Ron Lynch: I think that

that's, I think that that's...

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We're, we're at that.

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Jerremy Newsome: Well.

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Ron Lynch: that's...

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When you go, you, you do

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Dave: Hmm.

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Ron Lynch: that I have for this.

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It's how do we thread ourselves

through this, Gutenberg,

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Jerremy Newsome: Mm-hmm.

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Ron Lynch: Eli- the, the cotton gin,

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.

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Ron Lynch: factorization.

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the, the, this is one of those windows,

it's just this one is much higher

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pressure 'cause we're taking a whole lot

of coal and turning it into diamonds.

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And how do we do this without killing

a bunch of people and providing liberty

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th- with the systems that we're creating?

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Jerremy Newsome: Love that, man.

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Dave: Ron.

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Ron Lynch: no one's gonna do it for

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Jerremy Newsome: Right.

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Correct.

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Correct.

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Dave: I, I love how smart you are in this.

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Like, you're dropping some real

truth bombs and a lot of wisdom.

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That's, that's gonna stick

with me with this interview.

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Will you try and make the

strongest possible case for UBI?

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I mean, you've spent so much time studying

how humans actually respond to incentives.

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If you had to convince this audience

what unconditional cash is the

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right answer, what would you say?

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Ron Lynch: I would say it, it's

worked many times before, and you

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should, if you wanna participate in

a system, I can give you a number of

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systems where it's worked brilliantly.

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Dave: Hmm.

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Ron Lynch: Plantations

made cotton with UBI.

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If you love slavery, you should

love UBI because it's a s- it's a

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cloaked slavery system, and it works.

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Jerremy Newsome: Hmm.

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Wow.

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Ron Lynch: So yeah,

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.

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Ron Lynch: culture you want children

to grow up in, you should do it.

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But has that, has that ever

been a great thing for humanity?

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Where in the world has the plantation

system been great for the culture

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and for the heart of the human

being and the human being's nature?

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I don't believe you can find, find

a place where it has, but I do fi-

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the, yes, it's been deployed already.

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Jerremy Newsome: Strong, strong case, man.

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That's a very, very,

very powerful statement.

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Ron, lightning round.

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You know how these work.

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You've been on a million podcasts.

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Question, what dystopian future in film

do you think we are headed to the soonest?

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Ron Lynch: the most hot...

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Okay, I'll give you a very far take,

but if you said write a s- write a

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science fiction film, my science fiction

film would say what you read as the

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Bible and you think is predictive is

actually retrospective the God of the

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Bible In my film, is outside of time.

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He created the fabric of time and space,

therefore he's external to time and

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space and not subject to its rules.

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Therefore, the predictive analytics that

we consider in the Islamic, Christian,

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Abrahamic traditions, because of the

mathematical veracity of the predictions

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that have already occurred, I'm gonna

say the future predictions will occur,

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and from God's purview, they're the past.

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It's not a book of what's gonna happen.

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It's a book saying from his

perspective, this is what happened.

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So it's not destiny.

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It's a story told in retrospect.

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So we have this character, new

Babylon, that grows to be the most

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powerful merchant in the world,

and all of the kings of the earth

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have an office in her capital city.

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her capital city was originally

New York, where George Washington

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was sworn in as president.

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New York was the original

capital of the United States.

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And on that same piece of property

where he was sworn in, and we

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had a, a, of the country at St.

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Paul's Chapel, St.

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Paul's Chapel is sitting

on the grounds of 9/11.

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Dave: Hmm.

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Ron Lynch: Towers were across the street.

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So that story, Babylon is taken down in

an hour by one weapon that cau- causes

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stars to fall from the sky is powered...

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the blame to the, the d- the dragon

that caused this attack on new

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Babylon and brought new Babylon down.

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I would make that North Korea.

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Jerremy Newsome: Well, yeah.

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Ron Lynch: North Korea sits in a

very unique position to attack the

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United States because it has the

firepower to do it and the weaponry.

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And Russia just announced a few weeks

ago that they have developed a weapon

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that would knock satellites out of space.

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If all of our satellites went down,

there would be tertiary effects in our

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communications and in our transportation.

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The cascading effects of that type of

a weapon over the United States would

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be, would just bring us to a halt.

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And in that story, it says ships will

stop in her harbor and not deliver their

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goods, and a new leader will rise up.

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I could see our military having been

conscripted, conscripted to protect Europe

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at that point if we had a f- a, a fatal

occurrence in the United States like

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.

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Ron Lynch: that suddenly we would

be more allied with Europe because

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of our banking structure, and we

would have the opportunity for an

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Antichrist, a person to step in and

say, "I can solve this with technology.

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gonna give everybody money.

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I'm gonna give everybody

security through IDEMIA."

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Your identity's already being

tracked and traced every place you

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go through Allied Universal that has

all of the cameras on the streets.

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That is the reason Luigi Maggione

is in jail right now in New York

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for killing the, the CEO of, is it

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah, United Health.

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Yep.

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Ron Lynch: A- and, the and Palantir, who

is currently observing this conversation

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and every transaction and everything

you do in the world electronically.

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So the system is built, and

that will occur in my movie.

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And in my movie, that will fail.

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And on the other side of that will

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Dave: Hmm.

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Ron Lynch: fair opportunity,

fair creativity, that are run and

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appreciate each other's, ethnic,

eth- ethnic identities and origins,

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and art flourishes, and whole food

flourishes, natural medicines occur.

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But that, I believe

that that's the window.

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.

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Ron Lynch: So the question is how

do you set yourself up in this movie

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to go through that window with your

family and get to the other side?

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just became Indiana Jones.

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That's, that's my dystopian movie,

and I think that it's a, th- that I'm

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correct in my fantasy of that, I think

we're gonna get some version of that.

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so my premise is the same.

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How do I equip myself and my children

to either do that or accept the

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fact that we might perish in that

process ethically and on our terms?

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I don't mind dying, because

I'm gonna do it eventually.

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So if I do it on my terms, I'm fine,

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.

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Ron Lynch: but I'm not gonna do it by

bowing a knee to a digital guy in a

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tower with $50 billion in the bank.

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That guy's not gonna run my destiny.

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Jerremy Newsome: Love that.

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Thank you, Ron.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Finish this sentence, Mr.

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Lynch: The last thing any American should

trust with control of their income is...

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Ron Lynch: Their spouse.

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And of course, the, the, the, the

second is the fiduciary system.

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So y- you might think that my answer

would be the government, 'cause

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that would be the easy answer,

but the government's controlled by

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Jerremy Newsome: It's a better answer.

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Ron Lynch: that control that.

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.

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Ron Lynch: It's, it's, it's the

money, it's the money changers.

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It's the same problem in the temple.

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That was what Christ threw out of

the temple, was the money changers.

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Jerremy Newsome: bro.

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Come on, baby.

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True or false: UBI is communism.

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Ron Lynch: Worse.

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Dave: Hmm.

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Right.

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Ron Lynch: are shared.

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Marxism has the implication

things are taken.

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Jerremy Newsome: Hmm.

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Dang.

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Ron's coming in hot.

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I love it.

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So good.

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So good.

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Thank you, man.

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Okay, true or false: AI will

create more jobs than it destroys.

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Ron Lynch: AI will

create more efficiencies.

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Humans ha- have the

responsibility to create the jobs.

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I cannot defer our responsibility to AI.

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Jerremy Newsome: on, big dog.

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I like that.

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I like that a lot.

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Okay, which of your four documentaries

changed your mind about something you

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thought you already had figured out?

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Ron Lynch: I think probably the

real RFK, the truth about RFK Jr.,

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and it wasn't so much that, whether I'm a

f- a fan or not of, of Bobby Kennedy Jr.,

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I would say we're f- we're

friends and friendly.

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the m- the movie came out, with

a very positive light for him.

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The thing that I did not understand

before was the quiet influence that one

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individual could have in so many areas.

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He won so many lawsuits in so

many different fields, and most

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of those lawsuits, winning them

funded of a type of nonprofit.

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And so a person from each one of those

lawsuits of intelligence ended up in

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control of that area of governance,

and they all communicate with him

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because they rely on him to come to

the fundraisers and raise the money.

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So he has a constant text

string going of about 45

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organizations, and I mean constant.

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That dude

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Jerremy Newsome: Mm-hmm.

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Ron Lynch: if there's a guy that

needs a phone diet, it's that

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Jerremy Newsome: Mm-hmm.

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Ron Lynch: he is, he is on, in constant...

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He was running a shadow government in

a government through all these NGOs.

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and he was, he was actually probably,

whether you like him politically or

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do not, probably the most qualified

candidate because he has such a massive

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network and such an ability to influence.

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I have, I've not come across an

individual that was truly that,

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quote-unquote, "connected," but his

connection is not to the existing system.

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His connection is to the parallel

structures that are probably in

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conflict with the existing system.

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Jerremy Newsome: That's hot.

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That's hot.

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Ron, this was incredible, man.

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Ron Lynch: he c- if he, if

he can do that, any of us can

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Jerremy Newsome: That's

right, and that's the goal.

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That is the goal, Ron.

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Ron Lynch: your capacity

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Jerremy Newsome: Yes, sir.

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I really appreciate you, man.

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Thank you for being here.

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Thank you for giving us knowledge

and information and tactical answers,

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and truly providing us with a

lifetime of wisdom, and experience,

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both implementing and visioning how

we can become better citizens and

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better, more capable individuals.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Lynch.

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Ron Lynch: I appreciate the, the

candor and the, the thought and

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allowing me to over-dominate the

conversation, but getting it all out.

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I appreciate that

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Jerremy Newsome: That's why we're here.

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Wanted to listen.

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Thank you so much.

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Ron Lynch: Thank you

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Dave: What did you learn?

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Wow, right?

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What did you learn?

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There's so much.

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Jerremy Newsome: There,

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Dave: did you learn?

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Jerremy Newsome: there was so

much in that conversation by Ron.

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I mean, first of all, the, the

Bible discussion for that seconds

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was-- is gonna wreck my whole

week, so that's gonna be fun.

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Get to

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Dave: Hmm.

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Jerremy Newsome: and the, and the

fun depth, and the beauty of the

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Bible was written from a "it's

already happened" perspective.

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That's, That was, that was cool.

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I love his very, very direct opinion,

and I really wanna find someone who can

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give me the counter because I do agree

with so much of what he said, right?

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About taking away purpose.

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people need to create.

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We have to do something.

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There needs to be some measuring stick.

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There needs to be something in

place that we overcome, that we

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achieve, that we can strive for.

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There needs to be a level of and

connection with what it is that

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we're doing to create money.

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very much in the premise that

money is a value creation.

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And will people be able to

create more value if they have

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more time if they are told to?

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Obviously, there's no chance anyone's

gonna sway my opinion with it's

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gonna be an educational component

of if we fix that, we change that,

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we update that, we upgrade it.

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are now told how to think with all

the information, the AI, and the tools

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that we have available at our disposal.

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Knowing how to think, but how

to be healed, how to be better

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individuals, how to think more clearly.

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he did give us a lot of tactical

responses on how to do that as well.

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And at the same time, finding a way

where this can work because the people

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that are gonna need to come up with

the answers of how we actually pay

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for this, that actually looks like,

where does the money come from?

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Where does the value come from?

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It definitely sounds like Ron has a

number somewhere in his mind where

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it's like, "This is too little.

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This is too much, but this is, this is

actually an okay amount," where people are

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Dave: You

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Jerremy Newsome: motivated to

do something and their biggest

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struggles are alleviated, so they

can have that 24-hour work week.

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What about you, Mr.

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Dave "DC" Conley?

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What'd you learn?

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Dave: know, I'm gonna g- I'm gonna

keep in mind what I'm hearing from

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him and what I'm hearing from you,

too, is that this, this purpose,

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purposefulness, and it relies on, that

money gives you purpose or that money's

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tied, very, very tightly to purpose.

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And I don't know if I necessarily

agree with that, in that there's lots

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of people who aren't making wages,

that have lots and lots of purpose.

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And I do also get the, the downside,

which is like, well, just handing

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money has its own, has its own issues.

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it can create purpalet- purposelessness.

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That's, that's way even too many...

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Jerremy Newsome: Way too many Ps.

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Dave: Right, right.

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But I also, like, link that to what

he says, which is- UBI is, is slavery.

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and I think that there's the

other side of this, which is

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it's, is that it's also freedom.

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And I don't know if it's-- I don't know if

they're things on the same seesaw, right?

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I d- I don't know if it's necessarily

like UBI is slavery, UBI is freedom.

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F- y- is it communism or is it, Marxism?

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Is it...

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like I, I don't necessarily know

if I can say that, purposelessness

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or purpose, being purposeful and

money are, are that tightly linked.

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I know you teach and he teaches

that the mindset about money

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is incredibly important.

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Well, the mindset around purpose

is too, and, while they touch each

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other, they touch each other in

the nature of relationships, right?

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It's that, if you have a, a, a broken

romantic relationship, like it's going

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to affect the other relationships in your

life, and that's maybe the relationship

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with yourself, relationship with money.

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So I, I, I think that there's sort of a

meta discussion there, that I'm, I'm gonna

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be watching for as we go through this,

and I'm, I think you're absolutely right.

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I need, I need to find the,

the, like the pro-UBI guy,

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Jerremy Newsome: big pro

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Dave: right?

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Jerremy Newsome: who's

like, "Here's how it works.

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Here's exactly how

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Dave: Right.

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah,

that'll be really great.

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