Why do veterans self-harm double after VA cuts?

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A country can buy weapons fast—and help slow.

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Congresswoman Marie Newman argues

that mismatch is fatal for veterans

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and for anyone on the edge.

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The real question isn’t “more

laws”—it’s whether support

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arrives before the impulse does.

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Marie Newman: We do have to get those

folks particularly our veterans to a

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health and wellness place that is free.

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I'm gonna get political and I'm

sorry, I know we have all stripes

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here, but I'm just gonna say it.

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When this president took away 67%

of the Veterans Administration

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budget, that was super ef.

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Because now we have the veterans.

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Already in one year, we have seen

the rate of veterans trying to

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hurt themselves or kill themselves.

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More than double inside of one year.

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So you're right, Dave.

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Stop creating wars and we've created

nine in the last 13 months, we've

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created nine wars that are not resolved.

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And we have veterans across the world,

away from their families, wrong.

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We have veterans that feel badly about

themselves because a number of reasons.

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They get it from all sides.

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They get it from the side of

Hey, go shoot and kill people.

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And then in the military,

they, propagate that.

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Now that said, there's a lot

of amazing military people that

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understand the gravity of death

and teach them great things.

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There's a few that.

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Don't teach great things, right?

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So largely I'm a huge fan of our military.

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Sometimes just like in any industry,

you get a bad apple here and there.

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So we do have to do something

particularly, and I would

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start with veterans.

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So you have to start with a, again, back

to my dorky management consulting days.

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Start with a pilot program.

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So start with veterans because it

is the that group has the Perla.

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Plurality, sorry.

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It's early.

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The plurality of problems within

that writ large group, right?

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So let's start that pilot program

with them and lift them up and

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get them to a healthier spot.

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And that again, needs to be a robust 360.

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So for me, what I would do if we look

at just the dorky government of IT

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stuff, administrative stuff is create.

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A section in the VA that addresses

this veterans interaction with

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firearms, from the get go.

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I think that's a good starting point.

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But there are other areas too where

you can, so in areas an interesting,

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the uptick in rural suicides because

what we do to our farmers is awful.

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And the uptick around youth that don't

have opportunities in rural areas,

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that uptick is a, is indexing at 127%.

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So it isn't just urban and

suburban, it is very much rural.

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And just so you know, per capita

rural, 'cause we have far fewer

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Americans that live in rural areas.

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It's like hovering around 30%.

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There's been some engagement with firearm

that they potentially hurt themselves.

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So that's really significant.

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So we do have to have problem, we

have to do some problem solving

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around that demographic that feel as

though and it's particularly in the

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Gen ZI have two Gen Z kids, right?

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One of them just got a job after six

months of being out of work and another.

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Got was part of this layoff

from the tariffs, right?

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With a fortune 50 company.

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And so we have to address

the economic piece of it too.

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So people our kids that are Gen

Z and some millennials can feel

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like they can get equity and buy

a home and all the things, right?

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Again, I wish there was

one intervention, but we

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can do a couple of small scale

pilots right, right away.

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We could do that.

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Right now the federal

government has lots of power.

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They could do that right now, today they

could start and they have the experts that

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would do it on all sides of the politics.

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Jerremy: Since we're brainstorming,

walk us through that.

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Walk us through that vision or that dream.

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I'd love

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Marie Newman: I mean it.

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so let's play the veterans

Administration piece out.

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So right now you could take money from

the DOD budget, which is, was re it's the

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largest it's ever been by a factor of two.

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Just take I don't know,

what would it take?

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A hundred billion.

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Jerremy: Dave, this is what, dear, this

is what I've been saying for years.

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Dude.

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Sorry.

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Keep going.

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Marie Newman: Take a hundred billion

and build a real veterans exit program.

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This is the problem.

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When we, when our veterans come

home, we treat them like crap.

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We do.

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I have relatives that were and none

of them, and I, full disclosure,

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my, my relatives did not see combat.

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But we still, you would be amazed at

veterans that don't even see combat and

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have been isolated for two years in some

weird place that is antithetical to their

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upbringing and they, that screws them up.

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We forget all the ways in

which we screw up our veterans.

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So if we did an exit program.

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You could lay I don't know,

7 billion on that and get a

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really robust program going.

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Jerremy: Totally.

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Yeah.

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Marie Newman: and by the way, the

other problem we have with our veterans

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is that while I think 70 million

veterans have been part of the army,

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had a tour, blah, blah, blah, there's

another probably 30 to 50 million close

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relatives that are affected by this too.

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Sometimes spouses and kids kill

themselves as relative to the trauma.

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'cause the trauma is in the home and it's

in your central nervous system, right?

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So if we did a, an exit

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program for veterans, I think that's

a really good place to start, right?

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And give them job training.

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Give them mental health training.

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Give them a safe place to live.

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A safe place to talk about their trauma.

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And all of those programs were taken

away in this administration and it

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wasn't great before, by the way.

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Biden didn't do a lot better, but

at least the programs were in place

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and now we've taken that all away.

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And now we're gonna see we're gonna have,

I'm just gonna predict, and I hate this

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'cause it, I hate to be true, but I'm

a little older and I'm true sometimes.

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We're gonna see a homeless

explosion in the veteran population

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because of what they've done to

the VA in the last 12 months.

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Dave: We've and over the last year,

we've covered so many different

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topics from veterans to we, we

did school shootings and safety.

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We've done so many, so homelessness,

so many different topics.

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The

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thing that seems impenetrable, I, and

I'm gonna speak for both Jerremy and

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myself, is where does the money go?

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Like you were on I believe you were

on SBA and transportation committees.

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Marie Newman: that's right.

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Dave: I was a senior executive

in the government for a while.

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Marie Newman: Yeah.

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Dave: I couldn't bend a paperclip

for under a hundred thousand dollars.

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This is whole.

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I just, it is unfathomable to me

where, the size of the US budget,

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how much we're spending on credit

card, the government credit card

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and where the money actually goes.

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So I, I hear you.

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But the Veterans Administration

has a huge budget.

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Like where do we lose the connection?

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Where does the money, what?

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Where's the black hole?

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Marie Newman: The, so hospitals and

clinics and healthcare providers

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are extraordinarily expensive.

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That whole so Tricare, you're

probably familiar, Dave, 'cause

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you've worked in the government.

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TRICARE is the is the health insurance,

if you will, of the veteran community.

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Tricare.

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Runs by itself.

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So it's like a mini Medicare.

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So think of that, think of

the D, the duplication there.

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We have Medicare, we have Medicaid.

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And then we have Tricare.

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What if that had one backend?

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Back to my dorky days we had

one back office for all three of

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those, and it was one single pair.

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Then we'd solve a lot of problems.

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So let's start there.

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But, so just in terms of the cost

though, to help you understand, there's

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duplicated back offices for all these

places, so it's a little bit like.

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And you'll be surprised

'cause I'm a raging democrat.

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For me to say this is that we

don't need all these townships and

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we don't need a fire department

for a town that has 500 people.

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Use your next door neighbors

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for god's sakes.

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Be efficient.

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And yeah, the inefficiencies and

what, so for me, what's funny is that

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Doge was absolutely wrong 'cause they

did the Eenie Minnie money Mo Okay.

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Take all that out if it had been a bunch

of dorky management consultants like

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me going and say, okay, what's working?

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What's not working?

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What's best practices?

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Boom.

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Cut this, cut that.

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Go with this.

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That would've been a good approach and

I would've been all in then, by the way,

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because there is, you are right Dave.

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There is there is, there's

not that much fraud, weirdly.

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There's incompetence and there's

there's duplication, but there's

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really not that much fraud.

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So if they'd gone in and said, look,

let's just get merciless about this

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and clean this thing up, that's fine.

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But cutting social services.

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Is now going to result in homelessness.

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Our morbidity rate is

gonna get a lot worse.

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Our mortality rate is

gonna get a lot worse.

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Our public health is gonna get

a lot, everything gets worse.

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So for me, the it would be the

first thing that I would do is

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consolidate Tricare Medicaid Medicare

to one entity with one back office.

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Jerremy: That seems like a pretty, I

know we said earlier that there's a

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lot, not tons of things that can happen

quickly, but that seems like one of them.

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Marie Newman: Oh, you could

look, Medicaid is set, or sorry.

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Medicare is set up right now to

absorb the entire insurance industry.

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We could do it in literally a series

of months and all the employees, by

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the way, so no one loses their job.

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So don't tell me this can't be done

because I have studied healthcare.

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Just so you know.

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I was a healthcare industry

analyst and studied it on

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both sides for three decades.

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Don't tell me it can't be done.

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No, ma'am.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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I can absolutely be,

that can happen for sure.

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Especially, you pretty much outlined it.

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Marie Newman: Yeah.

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And I'm, and I've, look,

I'm the rea I'll be honest.

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I'm working with a dear friend in

Congress who's thinking about running who.

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Knows about the system as well.

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Very well, and I'm, if he does run

for president I will support him.

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So we're, I'm in his kitchen

cabinet and we'll see what happens.

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But Yeah.

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because I am very, there are two

things that I will do before I

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die and I've got another 60 years.

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I'm very healthy.

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Jerremy: plenty.

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Marie Newman: I wanna get money outta

politics and I want every human in

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the US to have healthcare and period.

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Jerremy: Yeah, I love that.

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Those are two.

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Without, we're definitely gonna have

to derail a little bit because one

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of those is so near and dear to my

heart is the money outta politics.

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To Dave's point and.

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The money's everywhere.

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It's always going.

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No one knows why or where, who

has it, but none of the people

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who need it are getting it.

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And the people that need

it aren't having it.

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And the people that have

it aren't giving it.

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So it's kinda like where everyone

has it except the people who should

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have getting money outta politics.

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What would be an actual legitimate

step towards that happening?

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Marie Newman: So we already have

something set up and ready to go.

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Jerremy: Okay.

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Marie Newman: There is a a bill called

the Anti-Corruption Act that there's

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a congressman in California, his name

Ro Khana who put together, it would

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take away 80% of Citizens United.

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So quick for your listeners, not

necessarily for YouTube, but for your

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listeners citizen United was a Supreme

Court decision that maintained that

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corporations are allowed to fund.

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Candidates and members of Congress and

any elected official to their heart's

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content at any number because that's

your first amendment choice and they

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deemed that corporations are people and

have a voice, gross, all of it, right?

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So that's what we're dealing with.

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Citizens United.

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We cannot overturn Citizens United

until we have a different Supreme Court.

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None of those babies are gonna die

for a long time, I hate to tell you.

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And so those nine players, three

of them would vote to overturn

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Citizens United right now.

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Six would not.

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So what do we do in place of that?

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There's two things we can do.

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We can do this anti-corruption

act, which doesn't require.

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An overturn of a citizens unit.

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It gets rid of superpacs, it gets

rid of independent expenditures.

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It brings the individual donation

down to, I think 500 or a

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thousand from the max out level.

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And it get, gets rid of dark money.

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And then if there are any un itemized

expenditures, and I'm not gonna

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get in the weeds about the FEC, but

it makes everything transparent.

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So it would solve about

80% of the problem.

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And that has probably a hundred

signers right now, has one.

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Republican, which is good.

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The rest are Democrats, but all

of those Democrats and Republicans

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that take money are like, oh, ah,

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that's gonna be rougher for me.

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Yikes.

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So that would solve 80%

of the problem right away.

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And then we could also do an

expansion, court expansion to make it.

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Where the Supreme Court is 15 people.

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And you get a much more balanced

approach to America because then

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you could have independent thinkers,

you could have right, left, you

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could have whatever you wanted.

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And a different way to appoint them

versus an individual president,

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Democrat, or Republican or independent.

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It having the only say to it and then.

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And then some rules around not this

nonsense that Mitch McConnell wouldn't

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allow any of the Supreme Court

justice to get done during Obama.

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That was ridiculous because it's very

clear in the House and Senate rules,

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but whatever he did, what he did rules

around the Supreme Court would be helpful.

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And then this anti-corruption

bill would be very helpful.

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All by the way, it has teeth in it

too, which is what I screamed about

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and I got in trouble with all of my

leadership all the time is because I'd

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read the bill and I'd be like, no teeth.

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No reinforcement.

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No.

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There's no watchdog group.

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There's no, and be like,

oh, Marie, please be quiet.

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Dave: Could, any of this be sassy?

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I feel like we need

t-shirts on your website.

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You're so sassy.

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Could any of this be solved

with conflict of interest?

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When in private industry, like I, if I did

anything with conflict of, in, interest

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I could be like, in serious trouble.

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Marie Newman: thing, David.

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And yeah, so you're right

that we should do that.

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It would give it a little bit, not

like they might think twice, but those

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things are real hard to resolve in

court, as even in the, in, in business.

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It's real hard to resolve in

court and it takes forever

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and it's, so it's like an NDA.

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It's only as good as the goodwill

coming from the signer, right?

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I've been in those battles.

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They seldom go your way, so it's

it, that's, I would rather the

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teeth be real strong and real clear.

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And there's a it's in the penal

coat, that's when it gets yummy.

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Penal coat is yummy.

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Dave: Laws.

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Got it.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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What about, the one for me.

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Super quick background on me.

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Congresswoman, I, my specialty has been

in stocks and options and trading and

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investing, and I built and then sold

the third largest stock market education

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company that educated people for free

on just how the stock market works.

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Marie Newman: Oh God bless you.

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Jerremy: Oh, thank you.

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I spent tons of time going to schools

and colleges and just like middle

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schools, kindergartens, like just

teaching kids how investing works and how

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trading works and how the market works.

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And I've always thought it

very interesting and one of the

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components of that was for me.

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The disallowing of individuals in

politics, Senate, or the Congress

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or the House of Representatives to

invest into individual companies.

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Because again, back to the back,

to the that's an obvious, right?

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Marie Newman: Yeah.

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And there's a bill ready to go by the

way, that has 110 signers right now.

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There's two Republicans on that.

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God bless them.

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And so that one is ready to go too,

that, I forget the house number on it,

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but that is a bill that's ready to go.

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So no one, I agree with you.

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It's isn't it like such

common sense Jerremy, right?

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Nobody should be able to

invest in a single company.

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And by the way, I also would take

it a little further because right

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now how it's set up.

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As a member of Congress quarterly,

you have to do a report on

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all your finances, right?

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So have you sold a home?

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Have you bought a home?

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And if you are trading stock, you

have to list all of it individually.

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What is the status of your mutual

fund, ETFs, all the things.

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Do you have a trust, whatever,

like all those questions, right?

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Some of them are late with them and they

think it's funny because there's no teeth.

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Like they don't get, like if they

are late by a year or two, then

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they get brought before ethics.

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And then ethics is shame

on you, you're so bad.

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And which is nothing, they all

violate the stock Act all the time.

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'cause the Stock Act says that you

have to report everything, right?

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So we have to get beyond that.

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We have to have the Stock Act too, which

is this new bill that a hundred, we have

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a hundred members of Congress signing onto

that would forbid all members of Congress

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from trading individual stocks, all of

their families and all of their staff.

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Then you do take away the

conflict back to Dave's comment.

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So it would, and so you hit

the nail on the head again.

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That one's ready to go.

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It's just getting all these people that

and I'll give you a couple examples.

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Nancy Pelosi entered Congress

in the late eighties, early

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nineties, I can't remember.

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And she had, I don't know, 10 million.

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Now she has 300 million, right?

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Marjorie Taylor Greene.

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She started out her net

worth was under a million.

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Now she has 23 million in six years.

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So please.

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Please tell me what's going on

here, folks, and the, and I'm just

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picking on those two by the way

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Dave: No, it, yeah.

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Jerremy: Oh, there is a long list.

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It's a

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Marie Newman: Oh my God, it's, yeah,

I always laughed so hard because when

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I was in Congress and I filled out all

my forms every quarter, my husband was

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trading a couple of individual stocks

because it's part of our retirement.

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But here's what I would say is that

I still supported the Ban, the Stock

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Act, which was around when I was in

Congress, which is now three years ago.

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Because.

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I'm a good actor.

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Like I sat on small

business and transportation.

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I didn't own any transportation stocks.

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No small business stocks.

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Like I was very clear.

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But I will tell you the, almost

the entire financial services

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committee, Democrats, Republicans,

and independents, all trade stocks.

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In the financial services

industry, so shame on them.

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Disgusting.

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And a conflict of interest.

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And you do on financial, on the financial

services committee, you do hear things

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on transportation and and small business.

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We're always dealing with keeping

our union brothers and sisters

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safe and keeping Americans safe on

transportation and on small business.

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We're just trying to

bring their taxes down.

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But on financial services and energy

and commerce, they hear so much.

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I can't tell you.

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Like it's disgusting.

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So that's an infuriating.

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So I'm with you, my brother.

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Jerremy: And it's also very it's just

very I'm just trying to look for the right

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word, but it's very calming for someone

to else hear and say that because it's.

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On the in, on the outside

people that are looking in.

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It's so obvious and so transparently

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insane.

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Marie Newman: it's 80% of Republicans

and 90% of Democrats all agree.

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These people should not be

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trading stocks, period.

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Jerremy: Yes.

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Yeah.

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And getting back to the whole

money com money complexity.

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That's really what it is.

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Like it's money in politics.

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And if you have money in politics,

money, you've heard how many times have

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we heard the term money changes people.

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And so when you start changing and

you're supposed to be representing

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and you're supposed to be connecting

with and you're becoming too removed

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from where you started and the whole

reason you started, and yeah, just

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gonna become, create a big shift.

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Marie Newman: yeah.

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No, it's a I will tell you the one

lesson I learned and I wrote this

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in my book that came out last year

almost in every chapter in some form.

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I said, it's not just follow the money,

it's follow the people that are giving

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the money and receiving the money.

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And we do have to address

this at some point.

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I it was, I was not popular in

Congress for a bunch of reasons,

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but I was really pushing that, I

was pushing the anti-corruption act.

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I was pushing the expand the court

Act because we can't address this.

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It is the will to address it, and

it's, so that's what I I spend my

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time doing now with my substack, is

I help people understand Congress

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and why nothing ever gets done.

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You do have control.

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You.

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The three of us have control and all

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the other voters in the US have control.

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And so don't vote for people

that take corporate PAC money.

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Don't take, don't vote for people

that have bully Pac money from foreign

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lobbies like APAC and Democratic

Majority for Israel and the like.

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Don't vote for people that won't sign

on to the Anti-Corruption Act or the the

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stock Act if they won't sign onto those.

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That is a big red flag.

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Jerremy: Big red flag.

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Because again back from my, to my

background, I'm the stock tradings

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expert and very familiar with it.

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I'm not saying you can't

invest into markets.

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I'm not saying you can't invest

into the US economy, but buy

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an ETF, buy a mutual fund.

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Buy something that you can't

individually can solely control,

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own, operate, manipulate.

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Marie Newman: And I think there should

be, in fairness, what I would add to,

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with the amendment, I would add to the

current Stock Ban Act of individual stocks

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within those mutual funds and within,

'cause you can model in there, right?

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Like you can choose different models.

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So like in an ETE there should be

rules around the ETF modeling and

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the the individual transactions.

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And that you can only do

it so often and it can't

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be related to any of the, and you

can't, let's say if you sit on

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transportation in your mutual fund,

you can't have United Airlines.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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So something to that extent and to

your point, bank executives have to

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do this all the time, by the way.

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So if you work for a Citigroup, JP

Morgan, Goldman Sachs, like if you're

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a higher up executive level, they're

banned from doing almost anything.

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Marie Newman: Is not a new concept.

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Jerremy: not at all.

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It's just in politics.

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Like they could do whatever they

want, but if you are the president.

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Of a bank branch, a mid-tier bank, first

Horizon National in Tennessee, you can't

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touch any stock that bank has business

with or that the bank has an account with.

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You can't buy or sell that

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Marie Newman: And I

like that a whole bunch

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Jerremy: at all.

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Marie Newman: Yeah.

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So it's there, there's another

opportunity we would have to pull

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this back and it's not necessarily

again, to back best practices, but

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it's not necessarily exactly what

we would do, but conceptually.

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In the UK what they do with elections

is they say, here's 30 K, whatever their

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trans two pounds, here's three months.

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Go and that's all you get.

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So it's publicly funded.

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And I'm not saying that's a

perfect answer, but it does

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solve a whole bunch of things.

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Jerremy: It does.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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If you have a fund where every candidate

gets the same amount of money and this

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is the most you can spend, that's it.

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Enjoy.

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Marie Newman: And you can't use your

own money and you can't sell fund,

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and you can't use your friend's

fund money and blah, blah, blah.

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Yeah.

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Jerremy: Hey, I'm all about it.

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I I agree.

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I think I don't know, I don't know

if it would change necessarily

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people's viewpoints or opinions

on politics, but what it would do

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is it would bring a certain level

of different players to the game.

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One of the things that Dave mentioned

is he's excited about the day where

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Washington DC becomes the new sports

arena or the new place where people want,

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instead of going to Hollywood to become

an actor or become a professional DJ or.

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Wanting to become the

next big football star.

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They wanna go to DC 'cause

they want to create incredible

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laws and incredible bills.

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And to your point, give healthcare

opportunities for every single person

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in the United States of America or

take money out of politics where it's

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something that is not as egregiously in

the face of everyone that's voting for

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you, where we know that you're stealing

from us, but we just don't know how.

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Oh, we can't do anything about it.

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Marie Newman: That's right.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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Jerremy: so for our listeners, that's

what people love about the podcast to

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the degree is we'll start on something

and there's we went down a new path.

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But the reality is that's what

this product and program was.

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Initially, we started discussing guns

and Dave and I were thinking, okay,

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everyone's been telling us to go

and talk about guns and talk about.

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Everything that's happening negatively.

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And then we saw this incredible data

right in front of our face where it

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was not even remotely what we thought.

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We thought that, yeah, take away some

assault rifles and then man, every,

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everything is solved and assignment an

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Marie Newman: No.

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Jerremy: And yeah, the data

was just showing us something

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so different, so transparent.

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Let's do a quick little lightning round,

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Marie Newman: Oh, fun.

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Jerremy: just Yeah.

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Super fast.

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Quickest answer imaginable that you have.

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All right.

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What's the most underrated fix you rarely

hear people talking about in politics?

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Marie Newman: Oh, that's

a really good one.

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It that is already in place,

is that what you're saying?

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Jerremy.

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Jerremy: Not necessarily.

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Marie Newman: I, okay,

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Jerremy: could be in, it could be in

place, or it could not be in place, but

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something

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Marie Newman: so

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Jerremy: it is in

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place, awesome.

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Marie Newman: in place because

there's not a lot that has been fixed.

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I am just, I have a my mother used

to say is that, it's not okay.

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It's you can sometimes not

share every thought in your head

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Jerremy: totally.

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Marie Newman: yeah.

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But Medicare for all, Medicare

would solve that huge healthcare

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problem and economic inequity.

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So about a third of everybody's budget

goes to healthcare and it would solve

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that inequity right away for all

humans in the United States of America.

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Alex: Jerremy won’t let this stay

abstract—he demands ONE chart, 60

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seconds, and Marie doesn’t hesitate.

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Next—the income gap lands like a

gut punch, and the conversation

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swings from corruption to what

working 40 hours even BUYS now…