White House UFC Insanity: How Gladiator Distractions Mask Gaza Carnage and Free Speech Assaults

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Jerremy dives into the cowboy chaos of a wrestling-star president hosting UFC

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brawls on the White House lawn, while Dave

calls it ancient Rome-style distraction.

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The stakes escalate—if

bread-and-circus tactics drown real

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issues like Gaza and Ukraine, how

much voter malaise is by design?

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Dave: In

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Jerremy: the front lawn

of the White House.

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They're gonna have a ginormous, not

like a, it's gonna be UFC branded.

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Wow.

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Which is again, Dana White and Sure.

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Good buddies.

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Which is fine.

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Yeah.

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All good.

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But I, I am over here thinking to myself,

oh my gosh, we have a cowboy in office.

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A cowboy.

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And that's like

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Dave: this guy that is

like bread and circus.

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That is ancient Rome sort of gladiator,

let 'em fight tigers kind of thing.

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Right?

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I mean, but UFC is super popular,

so I, I'm not against the idea,

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but that's crazy talk dude.

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I like UFCI watch all

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Jerremy: the time.

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I have more problem.

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I understand it infinitely.

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I'm just over here thinking to

myself, wow, they are letting the

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president go, Hey, best buddy of mine.

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Let's put you front and center for this

really huge thing that we're doing.

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We're gonna celebrate, an important

birthday in America's milestone.

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Yeah.

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Milestone birthday, I guess.

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And, uh, we're gonna do it with fighting.

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Just of all the things to celebrate the

American country was, it's like, yeah,

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let's just have a giant cage match.

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You would only expect that from

someone who had been in the World

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Wrestling Federation, which he has.

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And it makes me want to contact the

rider and the director of the film

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Idiocracy in How, how did you know

I'm in, I you, that is a rewatch.

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How did you know

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Dave: that is a rewatch right now?

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Jerremy: That we'd all be wearing

Crocs and that our president would be

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a prior wrestling match, individual.

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Like it's just awesome.

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Dave: It's

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Jerremy: true.

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Truly remarkable, I think.

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Uh, so to get back to the

international thing, man.

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Yeah.

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Russian forces advanced, I believe.

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Somewhere like what, 200 square miles?

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: Recently with Ukraine,

continually launching drone strikes

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: On Russian targets.

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And, uh, receiving 1000 fallen soldier

bodies in exchange for just that.

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I mean, so there's, there's

still actively, aggressively

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horrifically fighting right now.

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And I thought that they

signed a peace deal.

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Right.

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I thought that Putin did

that with Trump in Alaska.

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Mm-hmm.

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A month ago.

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Dave: Yeah.

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So that's so happening.

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I, yeah.

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So we got that going for us.

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And it feels to me that everybody

wants more regional stuff, whether

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it's the Ukrainians wanting to

pull a NATO in because they can't

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fix this right by themselves.

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They want a broader regional war.

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Or if it's the Israelis bombing

seven countries in a year, you

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know, it's like, let's mess this up.

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Are we saying.

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In 2025.

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2025, that the very best that we

can do, the very best behavior

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is to go and kill other people.

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To kill women, to kill children.

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That it's okay to bomb people from

the sky to resolve our issues.

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That's where we are in 2025.

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And if you say anything against

that, if you stand up and be like,

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Hey, maybe we shouldn't do this.

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If there's any opposition to murder, it's

antisemitic, it's pro Putin, it's pro

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terrorist, or they got what they deserved.

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I mean, that's Charlie Kirk, that's

Gaza, that's Ukraine, that's all of it.

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That putting a bullet in someone's

head, killing their family,

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blowing up their children.

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Is that gonna change

anybody's hearts and minds?

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I mean, does that help anything?

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And the people who are online cheering

any of this, supporting all of this

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that is barbaric, that is moral rot.

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This is deeply anti-human.

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And I will put the Trump

administration on fire for that.

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Because we are the one standing

up and saying, keep shooting.

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Like we're still bombing

things in Somalia.

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That is our longest war.

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I am donezo.

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I'm just like, this is

a very small planet.

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Oh, you got meti fired up now.

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Sorry.

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I gotta, I gotta like sit back because

it's like, it's a small planet.

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Let's like treat this

as brothers and sisters.

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Good god, what we've been doing

since the caveman days of bashing in

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each other's brains hasn't worked.

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We've gotta try something else.

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Yes, we've got to do something else.

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We've gotta be beacons of light

and magic and love and care,

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and that sounds like woo woo.

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And it sounds all hippie cool.

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But you know what?

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We haven't tried it.

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We haven't tried it.

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We've tried everything else, but ah,

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Getting all the leaders together

and just, Hey man, let's just

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all, breathe it out for two days.

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Dave: I mean, don't we have to be friends

with countries regardless of what they

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do, if they have nuclear bombs, you

know, like we've just gotta get along.

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It is like, I may not get along with

my neighbor now, but you know what?

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They're my neighbor and so

I've gotta get along with 'em.

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Jerremy: Well, so as you, you, when

you're talking about bombing people out

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of the sky another Venezuelan cartel boat.

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No.

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Got taken out.

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Dave: Come on.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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US forces conducted a second

strike on September 15th against

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the Venezuelan cartel boat and

international waters killing three

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alleged, uh, narco terrorists.

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Which is interesting ' cause

again, uh, not even some of the

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libertarians, but again, this is wild.

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I really didn't think I'd ever say

this, but Tucker Carlson was like,

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we sure we should be doing that.

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Dave: Again, I feel like he's like the

liberal hero voice in this Tucker Carlson.

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Come on.

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He's the one that's like, yep.

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Is this a good idea?

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Jerremy: Yeah, that was kind of,

uh, like, are you enlightened?

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Tucker?

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Dave: I'm so confused.

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Jerremy: And yet next

it's gonna be Alex Jones.

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When Alex Jones goes, wait a minute.

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Wait.

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I'm so confused.

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We're just bombing everyone.

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Uh, we're going to Mexico and we've

just, we're just bombed a couple

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of, uh, well, I mean, I guess

we technically did, didn't we?

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Yeah, we did.

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We dismantled 750 drug labs and seized 1.5

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million tons of fentanyl

over there in Mexico.

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Got it.

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And, uh, I don't believe specifically

that we bombed them with drones, but

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Dave: Who knows?

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I'm like, like, would would even,

would anybody know if we did,

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Jerremy: Would even care?

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Is really the, the wild question

I'd have to ask in that situation.

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And the answer is probably not.

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Just looking at the track record.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: I think it's just a

very, again, interesting point

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of view to take because I.

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This is truthfully to your point,

the same discussion that you and I

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would be having during Obama's tenure.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: It would be the same discussion.

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Same one.

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It's not exactly, it's not here,

Dave and I over here just making

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fun of Republicans or Democrats.

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It is, why are we as a country bombing

the shit out of everyone that we don't

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like all the time and not just figuring

out other solutions for decades?

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That's really all the that's the

question we're asking like, decades,

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Dave: trillions of dollars,

millions dead, hasn't worked out,

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has not worked out like that.

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That is the definition of madness.

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That is the definition of powerful people

doing powerful things that don't work.

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Like, and then they distract us.

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They distract us with nonsense, with

either, rather than paying attention

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to like the things that matter most.

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None of this matters to anybody.

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Well, I mean, not to the people who

are in it, but bombing a or, shooting.

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I mean, I don't even know, right?

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Droning, droning a boat in

the middle of the Caribbean.

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Really?

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That's the best way to do this.

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I mean, like, that's going to solve

something millions and millions that,

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who makes, you know, who's super

happy about that general dynamics.

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They are like, oh, great,

I made my bonus this month.

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Like, that's, who's

excited about that one?

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Raytheon, right?

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Lockheed so happy.

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The big contractors government

contractors, defense contractors.

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It is, man, it's really wild.

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And I can see the position

that I'm in right now.

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My goal and job is to see as much as

I can, as clearly as I can both sides.

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Dave: Mm-hmm.

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Jerremy: And.

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The side that's extremely

excited about it.

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I think they're excited to the

extent of we've painted someone or a

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group of individuals as bad, right?

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And those bad people must pay and

this is the way of for them to pay.

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I think that, let's call it

culture or that idolization

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of we are good, they're bad.

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This is what we do to bad people.

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Dumb dumb and played out.

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Very, very played out.

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Because again, I think there are,

and there is a solution somewhere

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where if you put Putin and Zelensky

in the same room with Trump, right?

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So these three people are in the same

room together and they play chess for

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hours and talk over some coffee and figure

out why actually is everyone so angry?

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Like, why are you actually fighting?

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Get a couple therapists in there.

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Get a lot of, get some breath work.

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Like, is it worth spending two days to

stop that war through humanitarian efforts

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and diving deep into the root cause of why

these people are being tyrants probably.

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I think that's more worth it than

continuing to fund the war, spending

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billions of dollars and just

having people just being murdered

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continuously every single day.

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Dave: Right.

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These countries are hurting.

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I mean, they're hurting, they're

intentionally like hurting themselves.

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It's like we want bomb somebody else.

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We wanna drone somebody else.

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You know, it hurts the United States

to be like, like, this is the power

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we wanna project in our own backyard.

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None of this helps us, you know,

like is this going to stop the

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flow of drugs in the United States?

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No.

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Like the war of drugs we've already

proven that 50 years of war on drugs

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not working and bombing somebody

from the sky not gonna work.

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It hasn't worked.

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Hasn't worked.

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So like, again, it's deeply anti-human

to say we are going to, first, we're

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gonna start with, start with the

first thing that we're going to do

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outta the gate is kill somebody else.

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I'm like, holy shit.

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They're like, really?

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That's the first.

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If that's even on the table for

anything, it's gotta be the very,

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very last, I mean the last one.

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Not the first.

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We just can't start with that.

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And yeah.

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Are there bad people out there?

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Of course.

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Are there times where we have to like

take serious action against people?

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Of course there are sociopaths,

psychopaths, they run countries.

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I get it.

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But.

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We have to have a moral compass and

stick to it even when it's hard.

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And that means don't go murdering people.

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Don't go killing people.

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It's, it can't be the

first card out of the deck.

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Yeah.

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You got me going.

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All right.

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What else is going

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Jerremy: on?

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No, it's good.

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Like what else is going,

that's why we're here.

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That's why our listeners are here.

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I like it when Dave gets going.

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Well, I mean, we have, uh, the

Charlie Kirk Radicalization memorial

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that has happened on September 21st.

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Dave: That was yesterday.

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Right.

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And I don't know, I

didn't catch any of that.

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Did

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Jerremy: you either yesterday

or the day before Yesterday.

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Yesterday, yeah.

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Sunday.

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Man, I'll say this.

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Yeah, his.

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His wife.

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I think very quickly is becoming, uh,

a new American hero and rightfully so.

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Dave: Wow.

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Jerremy: She is becoming a

very, very powerful figure

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in the Christian community.

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Dave: Mm-hmm.

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Jerremy: Um, she is and publicly

she forgave the shooter.

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Oh, that's Charlie

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Dave: Kirk.

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That's beautiful.

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Jerremy: Um, she was really leaning into

her faith and open about what Charlie

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was trying to do with his life, which

was to heal and help individuals, like

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the gentleman that killed her husband.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: there was a lot of, I feel

like there was a lot of polarization in

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a good way, polarization to the extent

of the individuals that were all there.

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Were doing it and were.

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We're presenting and placing themselves

in a position of positivity even

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though they did have like fireworks

displays and like a big light

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Dave: show.

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Okay.

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Uh,

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cool.

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I want that.

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So just so you know, because,

you know, I'm so old that's

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exactly what I want at my funeral.

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So if you could, I'm gonna, I'm

gonna put you down, you know,

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like the writer to my will.

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It's gonna be like, oh, and Jerremy,

if you could, if you could, uh, break

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out the sparklers, you know, like Dave.

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That's right.

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Dave would like sparklers at this.

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So, uh, you know, like, just make

sure you bring, one of those cool

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lighter, you know, not one, not

matches, but legit sparklers.

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And, uh, everybody gets those

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Jerremy: Something cool, something

fun, you know, less morbid.

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That is what happened.

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And it was, here's, it

was a celebration of life.

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Dave: You know, I know there was,

there was a lot of free speech talk

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the last couple of weeks, which I

appreciate the free speech talk.

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I am not happy about the administration

cracking down on free speech.

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And look, there's a lot of hot

heads right now all over the place.

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A lot of energy going on, and I'm not

even online watching this, and I'm,

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I'm it's raised, it's, it's breaking

through my silence barrier of being

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like, okay, people are a little crazy.

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And it is a testament to, and I'm gonna

give a big compliment to the pundits

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and the leadership on the right.

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It is a testament to that crowd

that things haven't melted

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down, that there hasn't been.

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Retribution that there hasn't

been escalating violence.

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That it does seem like there's cooler

heads right now because it could

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have gotten very bad very quickly.

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This was a very important

person to millions of people.

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And when very important

people get murdered like that,

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it causes a lot of crazy.

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And so I think it's a big testament

that we haven't seen worse.

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Yep.

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Jerremy: I mean, it's, yep.

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Dave: Every time I go I, I, I gotta,

I realize that I'm just ranting at you

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and I really gotta turn this around.

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Yeah.

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What so what's next?

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People are here.

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I mean, what's, what's next for the

right on this, the provocative, right?

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Like he was a voice of a generation.

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He was the voice for the young.

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Who's gonna be that voice

for the young, do you think?

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Like, it's not gonna

be Nick Fuentes, right?

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Jerremy: No, I don't believe so.

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There will be a lot now.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: That's the beautiful thing

about Charlie that I do believe

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that he will and has spurred a

lot of people to take his place.

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Dave: Great.

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Jerremy: And take the place of an

independent truth seeker, let's call it.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: Someone who really is

beautifully articulate and cares

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about sharing messages and doing it

so openly potentially with college

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campuses or on school grounds,

just to, you know, enlighten the

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intellectuals and to enlighten the Yeah.

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The younger crowd of this nation.

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Personally, man, I think that

what his ultimate goal was.

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Very profound and very beautiful.

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And it was, uh, it's unfortunate that it

had to come to an end, but I think that

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that's just the unfortunate aspect of

someone that is so skilled and talented

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and equipped to argue points and to

provide their opinion so poignantly.

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Yeah.

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That very, very few

people can dismantle it.

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Those individuals become extremely

divisive to certain groups of

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people that wanna make sure that

that doesn't happen anymore.

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Dave: And reasonable talk, it seems

right, but reasonable talk, like

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didn't demonize in the sense of

demonize how to say this, you know,

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like reasonable arguments, points of

view, even if you disagreed with them.

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Right.

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You know, not celebrating or going

after other people in, uh, for, you

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know, like there was no name calling.

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It was very reasonable.

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Measured conversations,

debates with people.

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Nobody should ever lose their job.

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Nobody should ever be de platformed

Deb banked de whatevered, right?

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Nobody should have like, their

lives taken away from them,

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either literally or figuratively.

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Because a very reasonable even

controversial takes on things like

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that is like at the core of free

speech to be like, I've got an idea.

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It's like, oh, I've got an idea too.

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It's like, okay, let's talk this out.

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And it's like, are we gonna

agree to disagree on some things?

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You bet.

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Are we gonna hate each other?

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Are we going to label each other?

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Are we gonna call each other names?

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No.

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I mean, that's, that's at

the core of this discussion.

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He seemed to be the dude that does that.

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And like every.

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Nobody should get canceled or thrown

out or killed or whatever because

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they're having a conversation.

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Even if you find it objectionable.

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, of course.

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Right.

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I think

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Dave: like wasn't Kimmel

like thrown off the air?

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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He was.

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I didn't currently watch

exactly what he said.

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To make an opinion on if that

was a noteworthy cause or not.

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But here's what I will say

about it is I think there were

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individuals that timed it very

poorly, and if you were going to.

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Stand on the ground of free speech

and say, I can say whatever I want.

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Dave: It could happen next

month, not this week, right?

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Jerremy: Probably.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Like, do we really need to,

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Dave: do you really need to clamp

down on free speech or do you

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really need to be like, all happy

about somebody dying right now?

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You know, like that's all.

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I think he is like, kick

everything to next month.

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Jerremy: That's it.

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I think so, man.

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Like bad timing must

have been a bad timing.

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Read the room and I think

that people didn't, yeah.

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People that got fired and

canned did not read the room.

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And I'm on the fence of it was like,

listen, if you don't have the human

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decanter of knowing when you should make

fun of someone getting assassinated.

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You don't know, like in

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Dave: 4K on tv, you know, like,

like, or on the online like 4K, like

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right in front of you, like, right.

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Oh, like, that is gonna

be burned in my brain.

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I wish I hadn't seen that.

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Like, Ooh, agreed.

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Jerremy: And I forget the,

probably a valid point.

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I forget the comedian the

redheaded lady that had the

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disassembled head of Donald Trump.

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Dave: Oh God, yeah.

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Kathy, uh, Kathy Griffin,

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Jerremy: Kathy Griffin.

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She did that like a week

after he got elected.

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Um, and there was this whole

like, you know, Trump, right?

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Everyone's like excited about Trump and

for her to come out with that again, I

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probably wouldn't ever do that personally.

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I can read the room pretty well.

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Uh, I wouldn't do that with any candidate,

for any person for any reason ever, but.

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Ever since then, her career was

just going right down the tube.

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And she did, she got canceled on

tons and tons and tons of platforms.

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And the ironic part is most people

are like, oh, but the media is

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liberal and they're far left and

they're, they're controlled by the pe.

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I'm like, yeah, but even if that is

true, which I can't confirm or deny,

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I can say for sure that there is

probably an unspoken humanitarian rule.

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Yeah.

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That's like, listen, regardless

of someone, if they're very, very

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popular, let's call 'em a singer.

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I'm not gonna name any names.

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It'd be awful.

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I don't wanna speak it into

existence, but let's say an

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extremely popular musician Sure.

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Got assassinated.

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Oof.

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Well, shoot, let's pick one

that happened in the past.

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John Lennon.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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John Lennon gets taken out.

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Within a week.

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Massive,

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Dave: massive grieving like I, within a

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Jerremy: week, if you begin celebrating

that, because you hate John Lennon and

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everything he sang for and spoke about, he

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Dave: was a common liberal.

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Like they Oh, right.

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People would lose their minds.

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: 00:20:30

Jerremy: Yeah.

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They probably did lose their minds.

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They probably did get fired.

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People probably did get canned and

canceled and their shows and radio shows

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got, got taken off the air and there was

radio guests that tried to make a joke

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about it and they got just disseminated.

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I'm sure that happened because there is a

certain level of humanitarian respect, at

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: 00:20:47

least in this small circle called America.

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Dave: Yeah.

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: 00:20:49

Jerremy: Because when you start taking

the humanitarian and you just go outside

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just a little bit, like, you know, 35

miles off the coast, when you get into

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international waters, then you can start

doing anything you want with human life.

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: 00:21:01

But if it's within the borders of America.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: 35 miles inward.

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: 00:21:07

Then yes.

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Be very, very careful what you say

about anyone that, uh, that gets their

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: 00:21:14

life taken away from them too early.

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And I'm actually okay with that.

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: 00:21:17

I'm on the side where like, listen,

if you got canned, 'cause you

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: 00:21:20

don't know how to read a room.

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Study better, I guess learn when to not do

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: 00:21:25

Dave: And I get employers who

might be looking at something

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: 00:21:28

and being like, oh man, you put

this online and you work for me.

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: 00:21:32

Mm-hmm.

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: 00:21:32

I question your judgment.

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: 00:21:34

I'm not gonna give you

my budget for my company.

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: 00:21:37

If you're doing this, like

you're a crazy person.

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: 00:21:40

You know, whether you agree with

somebody or not on anything.

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: 00:21:43

If they put out a controversial take

on something that is very radioactive,

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you gotta question their judgment.

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: 00:21:52

You just gotta question their

judgment on other stuff.

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: 00:21:54

I mean, it just happens.

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: 00:21:56

Jerremy: Yeah, I'm with you on that, man.

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: 00:21:58

I get it.

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: 00:21:59

I understand.

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It's a situation I'm not really

gonna be actively, feeling.

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: 00:22:03

Sorry for,

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: 00:22:05

Dave: and on the other hand the FCC

landing on what is he on a, b, c

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: 00:22:10

Kimmel to like, throw him off the air?

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Yeah, that's scary.

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: 00:22:14

I'm not down with government doing this.

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: 00:22:17

I wasn't down with the Biden

administration, creating like ministries

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: 00:22:20

of truth and pressuring online

censorship with the Twitter files.

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: 00:22:26

Like they, it was serious.

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: 00:22:28

And before that, you know, there was,

um, they didn't call it cancer culture.

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: 00:22:32

They called it accountability culture.

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: 00:22:34

This was one of the things that drove

me out of the Democratic Party and

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: 00:22:39

into, into the world of I don't have a

party, it's that world of, oh, they've

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been doing it for several years.

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: 00:22:48

They've been doing the debunking.

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: 00:22:49

They've been, because of, of unpopular,

they've been saying that you can't

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: 00:22:53

question medication or you're gonna

be a COVID, deni and killing grandma.

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: 00:22:58

So we're gonna toss you off of every,

every thing, like every online platform,

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: 00:23:03

you've gotta go into your hole.

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: 00:23:05

It's happened for years on the left.

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: 00:23:08

And now that the right is in power,

they're doing the same thing.

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: 00:23:11

If you are talking about Gaza,

you're thrown out of the country.

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: 00:23:14

They're de they're throwing

you out of the military.

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: 00:23:17

If you, if again, probably unwise to put

these things online, I'd be questioning

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: 00:23:22

whether I should give you a gun.

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: 00:23:24

But on the other hand, it's like, hey.

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: 00:23:27

Not reading the room, but at

19, did anybody read the room?

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: 00:23:31

And like, you're, you're a dumb ass.

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: 00:23:33

You know?

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: 00:23:33

And if you do dumb ass

thing yeah, don't do that.

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: 00:23:36

But you know, like losing

your career and your job, man.

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: 00:23:39

I don't know, man.

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: 00:23:40

So it's same thing, powerful people

wanting to control and controlling speech.

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: 00:23:47

And it's just this, it

doesn't lead anywhere good.

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: 00:23:50

Like, there is nothing good that

can happen out of the government

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: 00:23:54

stepping in, pressuring.

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: 00:23:57

Tossing people out of the country because

of speech and pro, you know, political

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: 00:24:02

prosecutions they prosecuted Trump

and now Trump wants to prosecute them.

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: 00:24:07

It's the back and forth.

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: 00:24:08

This is rule of law out the window thing.

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: 00:24:11

Like, ah, all right.

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: 00:24:12

What else is going on in the world?

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: 00:24:13

What,

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: 00:24:14

What

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: 00:24:14

Jerremy: else?

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: 00:24:16

How can I not get Dave on a rant?

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: 00:24:19

Let's see.

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: 00:24:20

Dave: I'm trying.

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: 00:24:21

Jerremy: Yeah, I'm really

looking for notes here.

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: 00:24:24

You, no man.

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: 00:24:25

You're doing great.

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: 00:24:25

I think this is what this is about.

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: 00:24:27

We're here to just have fun

conversations to understand some things.

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: 00:24:30

Uh oh.

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: 00:24:31

You have on here some online

issues, toxicity via algorithms.

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: 00:24:35

Dave: Oh, tell me about

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: 00:24:36

Jerremy: that.

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: 00:24:37

Roblox grooming, deep fake

scams, pig butchering fraud.

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: 00:24:42

Dave: Do you know what any of this is?

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: 00:24:44

You're a bit more online

than me right now.

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: 00:24:47

Jerremy: I will say this.

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: 00:24:47

I know what deep fake scams are.

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: 00:24:49

Those are

567

: 00:24:52

Dave: wild.

568

: 00:24:53

Alex: Dave warns of post-reality

traps where online fakes erode

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: 00:24:56

trust, mirroring Jerremy's fears over

voice-cloning scams that hit too close.

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: 00:25:01

If screens blur truth from deception,

how can connections survive unchecked?

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: 00:25:06

But next—the jam intensifies with deepfake

horrors targeting identities and wallets.