Episode 31

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Published on:

25th Mar 2025

The College Wrap-Up: Insights That Changed Our Thinking

Higher education is undergoing a transformation. Jerremy and Dave examine how student debt, administrative inflation, and evolving classroom models are reshaping the college experience. They break down the profit motive in education, the debate over student loan forgiveness, and the impact of AI on future jobs. This segment outlines critical insights and practical advice for anyone questioning whether traditional college is the right investment.

Timestamps & Key Topics:

[00:00:00] Introduction and Roadmap for Reform—Why Higher Ed Must Change

[00:01:00] The Changing Classroom Experience—What’s Different Now?

[00:04:00] Rising Costs & Administrative Inflation—Why College Keeps Getting More Expensive

[00:05:00] The Profit Motive in Education—Who Really Benefits?

[00:10:00] The Student Loan Forgiveness Debate—Who Wins & Who Pays?

[00:22:00] The Future of Jobs & AI’s Impact on Higher Education

[00:25:00] Advice for the Next Generation—How to Make Smarter Education Choices

[00:30:00] Final Thoughts on Education Reform—What Needs to Change Now?


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Transcript
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After speaking with entrepreneurs, educators, and experts, Dave and

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Jeremy found themselves confronting

uncomfortable realities about

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higher education's economics.

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Their journey through alternatives,

student debt, and changing classroom

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experiences has transformed their

perspectives—and now culminates

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in a powerful roadmap for young

people navigating a system

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in desperate need of reform.

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Jerremy Newsome: I think, again, I

think one of my solutions that I can,

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that we can end up bringing to the

table at some point in the future

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really is that awareness piece, right?

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Where again, the education's if you have

all this stuff for free online, they're

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not coming there for the education, right?

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They're coming there for the experience

of learning how to meet people, talk

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to people, interact with people.

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The education is there.

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I went through tons of classes where the

lecturer was just speaking about really

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cool ideas and all the stuff was online.

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And the professor was like, All

right, cool, hey, just go check

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everything online and, take your test.

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But the idea of the classroom was this

I could just easily see this model where

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the idea starts to change, where it's

no longer everyone sitting in these

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giant, Rose and these stadiums, these

auditoriums, just listening to an orator

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speak all the time, where it's much more,

all right, let's get everyone up on stage.

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Let's have these conversations.

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Let's all sit around these circles.

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Let's sit around these internet campfire

style discussion tables where we really

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start addressing some of the topics of

not only what are we doing, but how are

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we doing, how are we doing it better?

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And what is everyone trying

to learn from this class?

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What are we trying to do with it?

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And.

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Okay, great.

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What is the ultimate

objective of this class?

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Are you trying to get a credit?

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Are you trying to get a grade?

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Are you trying to learn?

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Are you trying to make more money?

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Are you trying to better your life?

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Are you going to use portions of

this to become a better person?

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Having these implementations

of really knowing what the

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students are trying to achieve.

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And bring that to the forefront

and just really laboring that point

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home where this you pump out the

best of the best in every class.

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And every teacher has this kind of vision.

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You now have people that can

pay more for these experiences.

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Where again, you're going on a three

day hike and camp with your whole class

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and you're now paying for that hike

and you're going on this hike and now

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you're outdoors and you're learning.

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And if this is a science or biology.

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You're there hands on.

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And those are what create memories.

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Anyway, people are going to remember that

three day hike for their whole entire life

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versus being in a room for four hours.

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Those are the things

that people can pay for.

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Those are some experiences that as

you just start understanding on the

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bigger scope, all these teachers that

have always told me, just like Karen,

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that there needs to be some level of

change because we've done the exact

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same thing you did since the dark ages.

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Like we have to start making these shifts.

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We really need to

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Dave Conley: Here's what I didn't,

here's what I didn't get from episode

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two with With Anya was why I like I'm I

maybe I'm just the one I don't think I'm

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the only one just struggling with this.

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I struggled with it in our first round

of school safety and school shootings

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and I'm struggling with it again on this.

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Is, why did it get so expensive?

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Why do we have so many administrators?

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Why, what is this, is

this massive inflation?

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I think it's easy to say the

availability of easy money means

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the price of it's going to go up.

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And maybe that is the answer, but the

UK has the same problem, and I don't

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know, is it because of loans, and I don't

know I'm still at the what happened?

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We've heard about our parents generation

where they could work full time, or

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they could work a part time minimum wage

job, and, More than pay for college,

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Jerremy Newsome: yeah,

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Dave Conley: like what happened?

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Did you hear that in anybody we talked to?

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Nobody had that one, right?

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Jerremy Newsome: no, I don't

think, I don't think overarchingly

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because obviously the answer is

some level of inflation, right?

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Price is just extremely higher.

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And that is the answer of what happened

is profits went up for companies

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and corporations and companies are

making more money now than the Bible.

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Like the, you take the richest

man in the Bible and companies are

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making more money than those guys.

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Now.

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And you just have inflation through

the absolute roof because companies

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are becoming more profitable and

they can make more money faster.

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And they therefore aren't going

to really expedite the prices

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of charging less because of,

capitalism and we're allowing that.

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And again, it's an interesting awareness

because that's, that is what's occurring.

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Like the amount of people that are

making goo buckles of money based

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off of just the interest rates.

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Yes, they gargantuanly peered into.

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Dave Conley: Yeah.

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It's every time we know that every

time there's somebody in between,

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like the student and the university,

everybody has to get paid money.

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And This isn't all demand driven.

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It's not like every student stood up

and say, I want a rock wall and full

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time housekeeping, Like it wasn't that.

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So there are people getting filthy

rich on this being broken like this.

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And they clearly have influence.

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Jerremy Newsome: Yes.

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They do.

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And I think that's the thing

that at some stage needs to be

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really gargantuanly peered into.

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Through whatever organization or company

or product or person that wants to start

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understanding this more because the system

is being too profitable and it's not

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cared about enough where they're making

too much money and I'm down for money.

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I love it.

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I am.

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I am that guy.

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I am just aware that I think there are

probably certain industries slash sectors.

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Where there should be some level

of cappage because if you're going

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to go into certain levels and

certain sectors We're like, okay.

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I just want to be in this for the good

of the humanities I want to be in this

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a good for the world All right, cool.

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And if you're at the top of that

heap, you're the top of that pile aka

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Let's say you're the CEO of Goodwill.

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All right.

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Awesome if you want to be in that role

You probably know that you're gonna

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start topping out at a certain level And

that certain level is a baseline level

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because we got to feed the profits back

to the people that are going through it.

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We can't live off the backs

of all the people that we're

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putting through this machine.

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And that's what we're, that's what's

happening right now with college.

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The college players, for example, that

just, this is just starting to happen.

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This has been my idea for five,

six, seven years where we absolutely

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should be paying our college athletes.

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For sure.

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Like you pay them because a lot

of college sports bring in obscene

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sounds, sums of money, millions

and millions of dollars a year.

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And you're paying these coaches to

coach the kids that they get the

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education for free and that's it.

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They're not going to get any money.

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Dave Conley: Everybody, every

other student who works for

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the university gets paid.

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Like it's a no brainer.

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Jerremy Newsome: Unbelievable, dude.

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So there is a money machine.

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There's a money monster

somewhere out there that's never

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really, truly been hunted down.

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And I would love to hunt down

that money monster and find out

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where it is, where it's all going.

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Because I think if the college

requirements where you got to take your

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endowment or your certain level of doubt,

you have to put it into this instrument.

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And this instrument is now,

once it hits a certain level.

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We now know that it can pay for

this amount of students perpetually

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for free and the staff and all

the things just off of interest.

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Now education does become free.

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And you start, you can apply

that model to enough people.

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It'll work.

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Dave Conley: It strikes me that there's

no transparency in the model really.

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Like we, we don't really know

what the overhead costs are.

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We don't know what tuition even is, right?

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There's a there's probably a, there is a

published tuition, but it's okay, how many

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of this is, how much of this is loans?

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How much of this is reduction in, like

who actually pays the full rate and.

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When you put in almost unlimited

amounts of money that loans can

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be taken out on, then the system's

gonna grow to fill that up.

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And I, this was yet another one where

it's like, where does the money go?

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Because it's it is so much

money, and it's like, what?

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Where does it go?

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I,

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.

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Dave Conley: I don't know.

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I it strikes me, it I, like my

magic wand on this is like, why?

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Maybe the student loan thing is the

piece that's not really working.

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So maybe it's, I don't know if

money is the access problem.

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If we took more money out of the

system, more people might have access.

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Does that make sense?

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Jerremy Newsome: Yep.

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It does.

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It does indeed.

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And I agree.

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I don't think that I don't think

it's an access thing right now.

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Realistically.

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I just think that at some level of system

arbitrage and information arbitrage,

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it's not being properly released and

it's being a little bit too confined.

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And it's not being shared

openly enough, right?

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To your point, there's just not a lot of

information out there openly for most of

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these organizations that are making so

much obscene profits off of these students

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that again, to that point could, if the

organizations were as good as they want

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to be or claim to be, Could you say on

the back end, Hey, we're going to get you

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great jobs, great education, pay us later

off of what amount of money that you make.

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Dave Conley: So here in episode two we.

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I think this was the only this might

be the only episode that we really

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touched on the college loan forgiveness.

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And I recall that's that I

think most of you and maybe our

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guests were like not for that.

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I don't know how we all landed on it.

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I'm still, I'm stuck on this in

this place of, These are effectively

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children and we've given them

hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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I, there's no chance that they

would understand the consequences

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of carrying a loan for 30 years

and what that actually means and

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getting up to your eyeballs in debt.

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Look, it's just you don't know

the consequences of anything.

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I, it's,

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Jerremy Newsome: I think that's a going

forward thing though, versus going

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backwards, meaning imagine right now,

every single person you go, Oh, you,

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every person that got a tattoo in the

last four years, they didn't really mean

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to, we'll pay to get it removed versus,

Hey, don't get tattoos on your face.

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Until you're much, much older life.

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And you're realizing that's

really where you want to put it.

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Okay.

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Go for

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Dave Conley: How did you know

what I was doing for my birthday?

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A face tattoo.

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Jerremy Newsome: Don't get a

horse tattoo on your forehead.

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But when you're 18,

you're like, Oh my gosh,

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Place to put a horse tattoo than my face.

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No, I think it's a thing of this going

forward, meaning that if someone is

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already in student debt, I do not

believe at any point in time the

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taxpayer should say, Hey, sorry, bye.

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All that money is gone.

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We got your back.

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I don't believe that

is the solution at all.

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Do I think that student loans

could be included in bankruptcy?

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Yeah, I do.

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I think that's a possibility because

believe it or not, I don't currently not

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reading any statistic, believe that most

Bankruptcy comes from student loans.

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I'm sure that there is a factor of that,

but most bankruptcies happen because

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of too much consumer debt and too much

medical debt and not enough income.

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And so it's a blend

generally of those three.

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Now, do those people that file

bankruptcy also have student loans?

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Maybe not.

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I'm sure we can do that

research in a different point.

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But what I'm getting at is, If in that

small subsection of people, we also

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include student loans, whatever, right?

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We already have bankruptcy now

and bankruptcy can remove all

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kinds of debt that you don't like.

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And so if student loans is added to that,

is that going to dramatically increase

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the amount of bankruptcies in the country?

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I don't think so, believe it or not.

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I really don't think that's

going to even cause a noticeable

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or marginal impact whatsoever.

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But to the point that, Going forward,

you make student loans extremely

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hard to get and not profitable

not obscenely profitable for these

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companies that are issuing them.

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These 30 year like you don't make, you

don't need to make that type of money.

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And not only do you not need to

make that type of money off of kids.

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Or very young adults But you should

also make it much harder to access

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Meaning there needs to be full on

full fledged If you're going to get

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a business loan Like I said earlier

allow business loans to be as easy as

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student loans are now or make them both

equally as hard One of the two, right?

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Either make it allow where I

can go get a business loan.

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And if I absolutely fail and good on me.

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I tried my best or make them

as so one of the two, right?

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Make them super easy or super hard,

but either one don't take one away

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from the other and not the other.

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I think that kids should have

the ability to get student loans.

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Or business loans, and if they can get

either one, they need to do the exact

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same diligence to get either one, and

that would dramatically reduce the amount

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of student loans have to be filled out

and get approved for if someone has

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to go through even remotely rigorous

process just to get approved for one.

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Dave Conley: I like that.

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Hey, help me re, let's

see if you remember this.

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I know.

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It came up and I'm sure our listeners

will probably remind me what it

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is, but my understanding, maybe

it was talking to Anya, was that.

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Most of the student loan debt

is owned by the United States

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government and that the U.

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S.

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government pays service providers

to manage those debts with the

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students, or with the former

students, with the, with the students.

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They are the ones that actually

go in and collect and manage it.

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And I'm like, why?

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Like this is like an accounting thing.

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This is a spreadsheet and an online

payment portal, which the government

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has plenty of if you've paid your taxes.

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So why are there third parties involved?

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Because they have to get paid.

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They're not doing it for free.

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So there was a piece in there,

but my question for you, because

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money better than anybody I know,

why is their interest charged?

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If it's government money that's

already been spent, it's already

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gone to the universities the service

has already been provided, why

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would we charge any money for it?

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Why isn't it a zero interest?

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Besides being dischargeable,

which I'm, I agree.

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It should be at least dischargeable

when everything goes wrong.

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Why are we charging any interest on this?

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah, exactly.

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I think,

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Dave Conley: it's an accounting,

like it's already been spent.

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It's who cares?

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah, or we make

it to the point where it also is.

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That's right.

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Where's like, all right, we make it that

way where it's it's already accounted for.

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It's already some type of financial

budget that the government

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plans to spend regardless.

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I think.

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In that situation, man, the

charging of the interest.

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I know why we're doing it.

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Why are we doing it?

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It's a better what are you doing?

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I think having it where the

structured systematized.

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approach that we do not make as a country

profits off of kids going to school

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would change dramatically how this

school is structured in this country.

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And right now, I think one of, when

we were talking about the federal

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budget and deficit and loans and

all that stuff, one of the words

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that came up a bunch was value.

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What does this country Value

and right now this country.

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It's number one value is

Profits, that's our value.

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Like how much can we?

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Profit in any given situation and that

whole interest portion is obvious of

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that because these institutions and

these governments and these loans

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They're all packaged together so that

everyone's winning except for the kids.

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Everyone's winning except

for the end customer.

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And it's not if you went out and

asked, I'm sure out of a hundred,

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90 percent of these kids would be

like, no, I'm not happy with this.

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No I feel like I'm

overpaying for what I got.

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I feel like I'm undervalued for what I am

attempting to pay for every single month.

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I don't think that they're

going to feel like this is an

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equitable decision whatsoever.

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I didn't write book and

my company paid for it.

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Like when I got my degree, I had 0

in debt and I was like, I just spent

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three years working 60 hours a week.

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Plus my college time, I was put in

100 hour weeks easy just between

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work and school, but to that point,

it's like at the end of that degree,

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remember Nationwide paid for my

degree and shout outs to Nationwide.

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I've always said good

things about this company.

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They not only paid for the degree, when I

got finished, I expected a raise because

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they're the ones that paid for it.

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And so you think that they would go,

okay, now go work even harder, right?

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So give me more things to do and

pay me more for doing those things.

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Neither one of those things happened.

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I didn't get more roles

and responsibilities.

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Okay, cool.

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Now you're the customer service manager

versus the whatever you were before.

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I didn't get any more roles or

responsibilities proving to them

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that I'm a good customer of their,

loan tuition program, whatever.

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Mind blowing to me.

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Mind blowing.

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Dave Conley: that, that does feel a

little bit like a disconnect, but cool.

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You think at the end of this

would be like happy graduation.

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You've learned quite a bit.

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That's fantastic.

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Now you're on a, now you're on

a, some sort of track, right?

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Jerremy Newsome: Something,

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Dave Conley: Yeah.

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Some something or bonus or I don't know.

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It seems

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Jerremy Newsome: even if the

exactly, even if they don't pay

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me more, but they work me harder,

I would have expected something.

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I don't know what I would expect.

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And so some shift in the

universe for getting a degree.

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And so that's what I mean when I tell

people, listen, the ability for you

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to go out and actually get a degree

that single handedly changes how much

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money you make that the percentage.

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Is less than 3%.

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It's less than 3%.

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It's for, it's a single handedly make

that shift of, Oh, I have a degree.

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Now I immediately make more.

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Got it.

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Because a lot of things you can do,

the things you can do apprenticeship in

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and make as much, if not more is 97%.

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It's a huge statistically

insanely high number.

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Yeah, man.

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Is college worth it?

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I think is the question of

questions for so many kids.

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And I continually find overwhelmingly the

vast majority of time the answer is no.

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The answer is no, it's not worth it.

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And you can get the same degree, you

can get the same return, you can get

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the same experience, you can get the

same knowledge for far less money.

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For far less time.

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Dave Conley: That, that's exactly

like our third episode, right?

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We came in with this with Kyle and Karen.

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Kyle's very much AI and YouTube

University and boot camps and

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it's I don't, wave you off.

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And then Karen was

like, yeah, I like that.

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And where, the rubber actually meets

the route is working with industry

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and shifting what we're doing.

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And then she said something that really

clicked with me that finally brought

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everything home for me is that school

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thinking, learning, adaptability.

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Innovation, like those are going

to happen inside your schools if

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the school is doing that work.

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Otherwise, you're going to get the same

that you've gotten for a thousand years.

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But if the school has got their

stuff together, they're doing the

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micro credentials, they're doing

the certifications, they're doing

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the public private partnerships,

they're working, they have the

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success coaches and they are bringing

critical thinking, innovative skills.

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Rock stars that graduate and not just

pumping out another college degree.

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And it's the fear that we have

too many kids and not enough jobs,

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but man, just wait until AI hits.

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That's the whole buddy, because

if you think there's an education

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problem now, Dave, Oh my gosh.

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start fixing this ASAP because if there

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is one problem that we need to fix.

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To Karen's point, it is critical thinking.

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We got to teach these kids immediately

how to begin to truly think critically,

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how to think differently and to

distinguish how many ways you can use pin

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You got one pin, you give a

kid a pin hey, tell me the five

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things you can do with this.

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They're going to have a hard

time coming up more than two.

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And just these really basic mental

exercises of knowing how to critically

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think and knowing what critical thinking

is and why it needs to be used because

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dude, AI is coming for all these jobs.

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All of them

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Jerremy Newsome: centers, fully

AI, accounting, AI, like graphic

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design, AI video editing, AI,

podcasts, AI, auto engineering,

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AI, it's coming for everything.

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And robotics is just as bad.

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thinking component of a hundred

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percent of the workforce right now.

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80 percent's gonna be

displaced within five years.

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The 20% that are not displaced,

they're gonna make 80, 80 times

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more revenue, 80 times more revenue.

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The 20% that do not get replaced

will make 80, 80 times more revenue.

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And the 80%, 80% of the current

United States workforce are gonna

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be fully gone in five years, and

they're gonna have to find entirely

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new service roles, job roles, and.

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If that doesn't scare at least a whole

ginormous swath of our listeners, just

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please know that it is coming our way

and we got to start helping these,

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not only our kids, but the future of

our futures, how to navigate this tide

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shift, because it doesn't mean that

humans will become inane and vapid.

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What it does mean is that we now

have the ability to create brand new

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school systems, to create brand new

emotional intelligence because now

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you're going to have intelligence

will be the cheapest commodity, right?

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That's what AI is artificial intelligence.

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So intelligence is going to be

meaningless, but having intuition,

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having the ability to meditate, having

the ability to emotionally Regulate

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and have incredible depth and emotional

conversations that are beautiful and

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verbose and just full of juxtapositions

and deliberately, delightfully delectable

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conversations that are really exposing

how people are feeling about things and

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shifting and tweaking and adjusting.

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That's what AI is not

going to be able to do.

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Realizing that we're going to be

bringing back the arts in a huge way.

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We're going to start bringing back

physical exercise and PE in a huge

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way because we're going to become

even more sedentary as a society.

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Now you're going to have robots and

machines doing everything for you.

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So this is going to have

to start happening soon.

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I think people aren't prepared

for how fast it's going to occur.

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Dave Conley: Oh, yeah.

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Future episode right there.

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Another future episode.

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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah our

listeners want a bunch, man.

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So we're going to give them a bunch.

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Dave Conley: Let's let's wrap this up.

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Let's if you're advising your 18

year old self today, what would you.

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What would you be telling a young

Jeremy Alexander Newsome in:

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Jerremy Newsome: I was really presently I

was pleasantly surprised with my overall

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educational output, because for everyone

who's listening, if you are 18, 19, find

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a job that you work in now that could.

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Either a directly pay for your college or

be indirectly pays for it directly meaning

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Partion a portion of your paycheck.

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They literally just you have to upload

their grades and there's a portal and they

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pay for it Like amazing if you work for

a company that pays for your schooling.

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Yes, please And twice do that work

as hard as you possibly can for that

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company If it's indirectly, which is

just a good old fashion You take a

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paycheck and portion of that paycheck

goes towards your college expenses.

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Yes, and yes get a job first A job is

more important than education because

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in the job, you will learn what

you need to be educated for, right?

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What portions of your education is

lacking, what you need to fill in

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the holes for, get that job first.

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Once you have that job, then

go and get that education.

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And before you get the education,

before you even go down the route of

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education, spend an hour or two with

yourself daily for a couple of weeks.

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Asking yourself, why

am I going to college?

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What is the outcome?

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If the only main outcome is,

I want to make more money.

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Or I want to help more people do not go

to college It is a waste of your time.

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It is a waste of your energy It is a

waste of your resources because the

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truth is if you get into a position

and we're talking about the Extremely

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rare position that you need to get a

job that actually Is based on merit of

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a degree can go get one at that time

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So if in seven eight years Your boss is

saying oh you want to get promoted to

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Shift supervisor and you're going to go

from 25 an hour to 33 an hour And the

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only way you can get that promotion is

you now have to get a degree guess what

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now, you know exactly what type of degree

to get The company will probably pay for

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it and now you have an exact reason to

go because you now have a job and you're

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going to be able to get that degree even

faster because it's extremely clear and

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you have intention with what you're doing.

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That's going to give you

a massive distinction.

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And for the jobs that need a degree

right out of college that you probably

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can't get into, They're going to

require work experience first,

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and they're going to require work

experience over a college degree.

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The companies that need both

college degree and work experience.

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Go find another one.

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There's another one that will not because

ultimately you go find another job.

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It goes, listen, I don't really

care what degree you have.

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Do you get the results done?

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Because I know enough

CEOs and so do you, Dave.

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I know enough of the people

that are actually hiring.

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I have met with, consulted with, coached

with enough individuals now at this point.

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That I am fully convinced that I

know thousands of people that are the

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job decision makers of their company

that will assign the paychecks of the

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person working that would rather have

them have job experience and life

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experience versus school experience.

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And that is across the board.

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You can easily get a job that

pays extremely well, that

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provides for your family.

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That allows you to put food on the

table and buy assets over time and

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allows you to really put in a foothold

into this country so that you can

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have that dream that we were all sold.

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That dream is bought by hard work, by

dedication, and by spending less than

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you make and taking your difference

between what you spend and what you make.

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And investing it into assets,

wealth and financial freedom

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as a second grade math formula.

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So everything above second

grade math, you do not need in

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order to have financial freedom.

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Dave Conley: you just spiked the football.

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I think everybody should print out the

transcript over the last few minutes

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and hand it to every 18 year old.

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Jerremy Newsome: Yes.

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That's it, baby.

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Bring it out and give it to them

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Dave Conley: Excellent.

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Jerremy Newsome: Well, family.

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Here are some truths for every single

person listening that if you want

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education and you want intelligence

and you want wisdom, those three

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components of a brighter future

probably are and should be free.

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If you have access to the internet,

you have access to income.

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Ladies and gentlemen,

listen to what I'm saying.

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It is available for you.

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It is available at your fingertips.

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It is available at the end of your

nose at the beginning of your eyes.

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This is simple and it is available

to every single person that

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has access to the electricity.

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When you have the ability to tap into

all the intelligence and information and

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wisdom that is available in this country,

it is the implementation of that knowledge

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that will lead you to the path of growth.

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and actual true impact.

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Every single person listening to this

wants to provide more, make more, earn

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more, be worth more, and give more.

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You all want that more in your life.

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So each one of those is the requirement

of you stepping up and saying, I want

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to be a better version of myself.

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What does the best version

of myself need to do?

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Need to think need to believe need

to act on and need to contribute so

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that you can be a portion Of each one

of those five subsets of the greatest

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version of yourself It is simple,

but it is simpler not to wealth and

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impact are easy They are easier not

to we have the ability to shift this

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country And to make massive, incredible,

amazing transformational change.

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But it's all going to start with

every single one of these listeners

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getting together, going down the path

of educational change, educational

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transformation, educational reform.

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And as we do that, we will inspire

the generations in the future of this

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country to become world leaders, to

become thought leaders, to become

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emotional savants, and to be fully aware.

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That we all have the ability and

capacity and capability to be

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more and to love more through our

actions and through our thoughts.

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But that will not happen until we

start making humongous changes in the

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educational system of this great country.

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Thank you so much for listening.

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We will continue to go down this path.

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We will continue to

solve America's problems.

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This has been another episode.

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Thank you so much for listening.

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About the Podcast

Solving America's Problems
Solving America’s Problems isn’t just a podcast—it’s a journey. Co-host Jerremy Newsome, a successful entrepreneur and educator, is pursuing his lifelong dream of running for president. Along the way, he and co-host Dave Conley bring together experts, advocates, and everyday Americans to explore the real, actionable solutions our country needs.

With dynamic formats—one-on-one interviews, panel discussions, and more—we cut through the noise of divisive rhetoric to uncover practical ideas that unite instead of divide. If you’re ready to think differently, act boldly, and join a movement for meaningful change, subscribe now.