Episode 221

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21st May 2026

Series Wrap: AI, Broken Institutions, and the UBI Debate (Full)

One guest puts the odds of a US recession by end of 2026 at 95%. Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley close out one of their longest series by walking through every guest and claim: Spencer Conley on college debt as a geographic trap and AI already cutting headcount, James Klein on that recession call, Cruise Gamboa on identity tied to achievement, Catherine on ghost jobs and work not being life-centered, Pam Jordan arguing the income gap is individually solvable without government, and Ryan and Sarah saying use AI daily — build with it. The overarching premise: the American Dream contract is broken, AI will accelerate the fallout, and nothing is replacing it yet. Jerremy goes after institutions for operating consequence-free, rants about boomers and Congress, and makes the case that the new dream is owning equity — not a 30-year mortgage where the house has to triple before you break even. They close with a UBI preview and an open call for guests and political disagreement.

Timestamps:

  • (00:00) Series wrapped – Hope, the cadence, what made this run different
  • (04:28) Spencer Conley – college debt as a geographic trap, AI already cutting jobs
  • (05:11) 95% recession odds – James Klein's call for end of 2026
  • (06:15) Identity as a trap – Cruise Gamboa on achievement and its cost
  • (07:36) Ghost jobs – Catherine on fake listings, work not being your life
  • (09:19) Pam Jordan – income gaps solvable individually, don't wait on government
  • (11:09) Consequence-free institutions – Dave's rant on who faces zero accountability
  • (13:46) Build with AI now – Ryan and Sarah's daily practice message
  • (17:39) AI will build AI – Justin's warning, most industries aren't ready
  • (21:25) No public philosophy – government unprepared, conversation hasn't started
  • (22:10) Where Dave landed – individual optionality versus systemic accountability
  • (26:06) Spencer Pratt – trailer life, viral campaign, targeting political corruption
  • (28:04) Boomer accountability – decades of power, housing, who picks up the tab
  • (34:08) Generational wealth gap – home values up, wages flat, the math exposed
  • (38:29) Own equity, not a house – why the 30-year mortgage loses at 6%
  • (51:20) UBI is next – open call for guests, political disagreement welcome

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Transcript
Jerremy:

We did it.

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Dave: I gonna say we did something so

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Jerremy: We did something.

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Dave: We we did something Look at us

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Jerremy: We completed

and finished a series,

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another one in the books.

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Dave: right This was

one of our longest ones

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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And it felt easy for me.

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It felt,

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Dave: Yeah

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Jerremy: felt nice, it felt

simple, probably for a few reasons.

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Number one, we're getting better at this.

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Number two.

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doing a great job at everything

on the post and everything on the

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edits, everything on the socials,

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Dave: appreciate

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Jerremy: hope.

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A lot of our fans are out there

listening and watching and seeing us

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everywhere on Instagram and Twitter.

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Just getting posted on the reg and, I

mean, it's, it's work, so it's something

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that we're both addicted to in a good way.

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Dave: right

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Jerremy: So.

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Dave: and I and this wouldn't have

happened without you bringing in

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such fabulous folks and bro I'll be

honest by the end of the series I felt

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like the guests were trying to beat

the hope out of me and I wanna lead

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with this I wanna lead with this I

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losing hope yet I'm not losing it yet

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Jerremy: Nope.

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Nope.

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He is soaring.

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Our boy over there is soaring, doing

incredible it, incredible things.

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No, I love it, man.

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It's I, I love that it also took

us to a place like, man, we gotta

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start talking about this UBI stuff.

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Because I think it just, a lot of us felt

it or noticed it or saw it or like they're

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like, yeah, here's where we started.

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We both agreed that the government,

American dream that was written

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in a contract deal to the Citizens

of America is broken and failed.

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We, we kind of, we, we kind of started

there that that was the agreement, right?

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Like you, located that the failure

was in absent institutions, and

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I was talking about the answer.

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Probably an individual financial

repositioning, but neither of

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us, really noticed that we were

both kind of starting to pull in

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opposite directions potentially.

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Dave: Yeah Yeah

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Jerremy: So yeah, it was,

it was fantastic, man.

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I mean, I was over here like, all right,

it's the school, it's the degree, it's the

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job, it's the family, it's the happy life.

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That contract is broken and AI is

going to make that an accelerant.

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It's gonna make it even worse.

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And, You know, America getting into

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and that we needed to write one.

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Dave: Yes Yeah yeah yeah yeah I and

I I want to back up a little bit and

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talk about our guests because for

for me I feel like Every guest who

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told us to act individually first

told us about the structural failure

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that broke them personally right

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Jerremy: totally.

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Dave: and the individuality believe is

The consequence it's not the cure and

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I I think it's something that we might

have missed Like we sampled one America

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and I thought it was super valuable but

also of entrepreneurs lots of operators

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lots of folks who had already concluded

the system wasn't coming back for them We

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didn't have tradespeople we didn't have

teachers Public sector I think we had the

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right age range and we might have missed

the occupations a bit It felt like This

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was a really tight network that we had

dropped into and on on the and the two

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guests that we had Catherine and Spencer

who were in the machine you know that was

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on my kitchen table right Like that was

you know so I felt like we kind of had we

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kind of had a couple of camps here So I

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I wanna acknowledge that coming in for

folks that are listening to us that we

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definitely learned a lot and we we we

raised some disagreements between you

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and I And I believe that also the through

line of that was more similar than not

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but also that think to to to to sweep

that all together and say Hey this is

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what America is feeling and these are the

solutions I think is incomplete I this is

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this is this there is more to this work

thing than ever Particularly with ai What

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how do you how do you feel about all that

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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I, I do agree that we had a lot of

different camps, but I mean, ultimately

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most of them, most of them were, were

entrepreneurs and people that no longer

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worked like you call as you stated.

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so most of 'em are entrepreneurs

and that's perfectly reasonable.

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A lot of business owners, a

lot of business creators, we.

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We, we, started with

your boy Spencer Conley

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Dave: Yeah

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Jerremy: you know, I think he

had some really cool reframes

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and some cool discussions.

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extremely smart guy, So he

is a big four consultant.

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Dave: Yep

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Jerremy: Discuss how college debt

trapped people geographically.

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I mean, that was kind of a nice.

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A nice way to put it.

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Dave: Mm-hmm

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Jerremy: And definitely said AI is already

cutting headcount at large research firms,

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Dave: Right

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Jerremy: so that that's

already beginning to happen.

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so when people are like, oh,

it's, it's, it's a ways off.

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Nope.

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It is.

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It's happening at this

exact moment in time.

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And then, then we had our,

we had our buddy James Klein.

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Dave: Yep

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Jerremy: Talk about the khap

economy, which was cool.

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Dave: Mm-hmm

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Jerremy: gave us a big scare.

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Recession's, a 95% probability

by the end of:

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That's this year, by the way.

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Dave: I keep forgetting

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Jerremy: yeah.

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Yeah,

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Dave: may.

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Jerremy: I know.

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So it's, something's gotta

be breaking pretty soon.

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Dave: Yeah How do you feel about that

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Jerremy: I.

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I mean, I, I do agree with him and with

you that there is a recession coming.

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There's a, some, there's something

big brewing, but it's not, but it's

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still down the road a little bit.

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Dave: Mm-hmm

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Jerremy: Yeah, I think

it's still down the road.

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I mean, obviously we'll have

market pullbacks, but that's

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not a recession, right?

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That's just what markets do.

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Markets go up and markets go down.

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But the big one, I do think

is less than six years away.

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So I think whoever gets the

next presidency is gonna

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have a big, big hot potato.

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Dave: Yeah

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cruise Cruise was

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Jerremy: Oh,

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Dave: interview Yeah

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Jerremy: just loved

everyone in this panel.

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I mean, this whole group of people.

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And yes, this was one of our longer ones.

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Dave: Yeah

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Jerremy: simple, fun,

easy, quick, efficient.

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But yeah, cruise gamboa.

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Just, just an incredible

human being as well.

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his identity was, tied to

achievement is the trap.

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Dave: Mm-hmm

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Jerremy: And, and that was like his ethos,

his statement, his, his thesis is if you

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have your identity, who you are, what you

do, what you do for the world, if that

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identity is tied to achievement, that is a

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Dave: Mm-hmm

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Jerremy: And, you know, essentially

a, a personality trait that will

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break down, that will fail you, that

will bring you a lot of unhappiness.

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And I think a lot of people

probably fail to forget that.

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But yeah, that was beautiful for me.

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Dave: Yeah it was

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Jerremy: it was very, it

was very healing episode.

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Very healing, a lot of introspection,

a lot of deep diving, a lot of

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like, have escaped the machine.

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Dave: right

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Jerremy: And this is what

it has done for my soul.

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This is what I'm doing because of it.

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I really liked that.

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I felt, I felt comfortable by it.

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Dave: It's it was it was the it

was that essential loneliness

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that that the successful CEOs

end up alone Right You know

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and employees who don't don't know

who they are Like who who are you

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Dave: that's kind of an existential It's

like okay you got to the top of this

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mountain but you're the only one there

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Jerremy: Yep.

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Yep.

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I agree.

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Dave: Then we had Catherine right Mm-hmm

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Jerremy: Yes.

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so sweet dude.

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nice.

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so kind, so thoughtful.

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and she, she was one of the first

people to talk, talk about the

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word ghost jobs, which was nice.

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That was interesting.

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Dave: Yeah I think we brought

it up more than she did It's

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quite her world in hr It was

occurring to me afterwards It's like

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Dave: she's more on the benefit side She'd

heard about a lot of this and I think we

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had later on who did we have in that world

who did a lot of because we asked it again

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of one of our later guests and they were

like nah ghost ghost jobs aren't a thing

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Jerremy: Yeah, yeah.

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Well, I could see it happening though.

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I mean, it makes sense

as like a lead magnet.

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Dave: Yeah

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exactly.

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Right You know like

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why not put it out there and figure out

what's going on in the in the universe

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I what I think I think the the big piece

about Catherine which we also heard you

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know throughout this series was that

there was a Not tying your profession

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to who you are Right Like for her it was

like her work doesn't center around Her

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life doesn't center around work at all In

fact she has this internal contradiction

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of like okay career path versus like

hmm coffee shop on the beach right Like

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it's it's like she had a she has a rich

full life around this this thing that

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she she's doing And part of that is also

like I think somebody at the beginning

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of their career being like you know what

you know this might not necessarily be my

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gig and I'm gonna involve that You know

I'm gonna evolve that over time Right You

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know as I figure out what my needs and

and wants are And I loved that you know

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like the the rest of her life was pulling

her in those directions It wasn't you

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know just all straight up in corporate

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Agreed.

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Agreed, agreed.

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Oh, we, we had all kinds of people next,

but Pam, Pam, Jordan, the fractional CFO,

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Dave: Mm

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Jerremy: loved her energy.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: You called her a bubble

of joy, I think maybe after

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she was, after she got off.

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and, and really she and me definitely

probably agree or agreed the most

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on, maybe the, the exact solutions

that were showing up or that.

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That are at least discussed.

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'cause she's a very, the

government's not gonna do anything.

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don't worry about them.

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You know, they're, they're not

really gonna help you at all.

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And the, the income gap is 100%

solvable individually, right?

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Politicians can't solve business

problems and childhood money,

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trauma sets income ceilings.

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That was Pam Jordan slash.

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Almost everything I agree with.

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Now I get it that the government should

step in and should help, and they do

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a great job sometimes mostly with.

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Let's just call it certain fractional

aspects of helping individuals here in

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the US institutions or creating things

that do and can help, let's call it the

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police, let's call it the fire brigades,

let's call it Medicaid, Medicare.

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there's definitely certain

aspects that aren't 100% broken,

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like they actually do work.

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Dave: And and That that's not that

was sort of like my argument you know

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I was really pushing on folks to be

like Hey look you're you're saying

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you don't trust anybody or anything

but you and I think this is sorry

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I can really hear your keyboard

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Jerremy: Okay.

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Dave: the It's it it is about

responsibility I've heard you know

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so many episodes about individual

responsibility individual responsibility

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individual responsibility I'm like

yeah I hear you When a corporation

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lays off 10,000 people and the stock

goes up that's not capitalism That's

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consequence free version of it That's

just socializing the problem on you and

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me when a university charges $80,000 a

year and ships off graduates that think

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that they can you know their way out of

that kind of debt That is not education

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That's a conseque con consequence

free version of it When a politician

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runs on workforce policy and workforce

training authority drops from 3 billion

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you know 4 billion to 3 billion and nobody

loses their seat that's not governance

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That's a consequence free version of

it When AI is deployed and we lose all

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of these people all of these trillion

dollar companies that are putting all of

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this energy into AI are not $1 reserving

$1 for the person who loses their job

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They are just all full bore on enriching

themselves not on the consequences of it

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So the individual prescription that just

accepts that there's a consequence free

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version of it and that the institutions

and the operating environment I just

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I disagree I'm I'm not refusing the

prescription of the individual like

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responsibility that is still there I'm

just refusing to call the operating

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environment normal It's not normal

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Jerremy: I feel that, bro, I feel

that, that that's a, it's a powerful

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statement and I agree with you.

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I do.

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it's,

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Dave: I won't accept that this is this

is me holding on hope because we are

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made up of individuals in these in

these in these corporations in these

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you know in the academic settings in

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When you know like the part that makes my

heart hurt is like you know like the the

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the the the communities around you are

are not even like returning your fucking

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phone calls You know I'm like geez you

know like you You are like a a a a a

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golden retriever in human form It's like

everybody wants to to to hang out with

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you and your neighbors are like ma know

like like come on You know like we we it

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is about the community and what we are

teaching our kids and ensuring that the

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institutions around us are teaching you

know awesome awesome things and and you

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know not what to think but how to think

and that our government is working for us

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not against us that You know that we we

don't we don't we we we have to give every

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person no excuse to not rise to be better

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Jerremy: Dude, let's go.

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We're clipping that.

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We're clipping that.

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Dave's fired up.

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Yeah.

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I love it.

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I love, what'd you think

about Ryan and Sarah?

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Dave: boy Interesting cats right I

married I I I did a pre-interview with

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them and just just what a what you know

rock and roll like just it felt like

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they were doused in in kerosene and and

tossed a match like they are just on fire

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Jerremy: Yes.

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Yes, exactly.

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Dave: you know and then there's the

the The aspect that I mean I keep on

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saying that I've said this to everybody

that will every everybody that'll

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listen to me you know like I'll I'll

I'll go into the grocery store and

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said Hey ai you know like they they

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Jerremy: Who wants to talk about ai?

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Hello?

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Dave: It's that going to the gym And

I think they really raised it pretty

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hard in in my mind it's like you have

to use the AI every single day You

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have to go to the gym every single

day You're not gonna see the results

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right now And having a flexibility of

you do because it's all gonna change

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Dave: like something that happened as

as we went on but I it really started

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with me with with Ryan and Sarah it's

like Hey you gotta be using this ai You

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gotta be doing it You gotta doing it

today Even if you don't know anything

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about it you gotta be in it to win it

And if you're not doing anything then

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you're just you are behind on it Not

that you can't catch up it's just that

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get into the practice of it and think

about what you're doing now It's going

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to fundamentally change pretty much for

anybody in any way So having a flexibility

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in that in what you do is going to be

really important Like the developers of

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today are fundamentally shifting away

from You know typing at their keyboards

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day in and day out by themselves in a

in a in in their in their coding hole

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to working with people working with ai

working with all of these agents in order

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to to build bigger better stronger faster

in different ways And so The developer

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is evolving their role They didn't go to

school for that at all Right And that's

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what Ryan that's what I heard Ryan and

Sarah say is that your you know like

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your work your stuff is changing out from

underneath you So get on board or you know

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that's gonna lead to to more more that's

gonna be bigger hassle down the road

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Jerremy: Yeah, and I liked their

get on, get on board because

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they were, they were able to tell

us exactly how to get on board.

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They're like, this is the train.

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This is the train station.

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This isn't where you need to board.

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processes, procedures, know, talked

about how to build often with ai,

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Dave: Yeah

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Jerremy: so build with it.

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Don't just consume.

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It was a cool quote from them.

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And, and yes, it is.

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It is happening, like

the shift is occurring.

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Please get on board now.

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Start now.

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Just get in the reps now.

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And I, I don't know, man.

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I just think that,

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Dave: Hey

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Jerremy: the ulti, ahead.

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Dave: So we're we are heading up heading

into the world of UBI next I've I've

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to a couple of the a couple of podcasts

that I that we we are doing our pre-work

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for and I think something that Ryan

and Sarah brought up something I also

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heard I think Eric Weinstein talk about

is that you know what is the value of

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of your work going forward right Like

what what is the the product good or

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service that you're going to be able

to hang your hat on and say Hey this

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is my purpose and this is what I bring

to the world This is my cre this is

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my creativity that other people find

valuable And I think they talked about

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and the creation of these these AI agents

and how you could profit from them And

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I think they're doing that now right Is

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did I miss that or is

that what was that right

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Jerremy: yeah, yeah.

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Dave: yeah yeah There's like Hey this

is a work product and it's like you

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know this is a part of my creativity

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: which is cool.

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I mean, they're already doing it.

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They're, they're already spending the

time to do the work, to create the, the

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sauce that they've been referring to.

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Dave: then it was Justin and Jason

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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that

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was, two, two, two panel

discussions, although the

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first one was a married couple

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Dave: Yeah

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Jerremy: that was kind

of nice, back to back.

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individuals were two people.

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Dave: and Jason worked together I I

thought you know when I when I first were

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talking to em I'm like oh they would go

great together And then as we got into it

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I was like oh was this a good matchup an

okay matchup you know like what how did

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it you know like I was sort of a question

mark as we got into it Like I felt like

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we could have done them individually

or gone different directions do you how

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do you think it went together with them

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Jerremy: Yeah, I, I do think

that Justin, I don't know.

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I feel like, I feel like we could

have done that podcast in six minutes.

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concise answer for everything.

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Dave: So sharp so

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Jerremy: sharp, so quick, so fast.

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This like, this is the answer.

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This is the way it is.

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And I do know Jason very well.

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he loves to think, he loves

to have long conversations.

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He loves to listen to the way words

are used, the way people say things,

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the way people enunciate words.

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'cause that's important to him.

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'cause he is very, very in tuned

with what people are actually saying.

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Dave: Oh

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wasn't able to do that very

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much with Justin because Justin,

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Dave: Because he was on fire and

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Jerremy: yes.

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Dave: exactly Ja Jason and I had like

long conversations afterwards We've been

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we were talking for days and it was yeah

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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But, I mean, overall, I think, yeah,

we probably could have done them

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individually, but Ju Justin's chat

would've been very, very quick.

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It would've been a fast one, would've

been a fast one, and I, I do think

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that Justin had some very valid points,

one of them specifically being like.

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The AI is gonna start building AI soon.

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You know, like it's gonna create its own

workers, it's gonna create its own tasks.

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gonna be doing things for

itself before you even know it.

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And we need to get on board because

every industry is gonna be shifted,

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every industry is gonna be impacted.

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It's all going to happen.

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specifically, I kind of heard him say.

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That over 75% of the workforce will be

directly and individually negatively

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impacted in the next two years by AI

and what it can do to replace a job

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Dave: Which is telling me right now and

here's here's the role of government

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You know having your AI czar I'm sure

there's an AI czar in the current

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Jerremy: somewhere.

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For sure.

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Dave: right

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Yep.

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Dave: there's there's no group of of

sociologists and philosophers and theo

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theologians like sitting around that

I know of saying Hey You know like how

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do we get ready for this You know like

this is a significant impact to what

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it means to be human And you know our

like I don't think we need to even talk

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about whether it's conscious or not

Might as well just say it is you know you

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it's like like how would we know anyways

It's like okay we've we've birthed

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this new thing and because it's new and

because it because we don't know how it's

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gonna disrupt and how it's gonna affect

people It's like we really gotta start

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having like public conversations to be

like okay This is coming You know it's

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like I feel like we're I feel like we're

pregnant You know like when a couple's

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pregnant it's like it's gonna be scary

until it's not Right You know like I was

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talking to a friend of mine and and she

said Yeah you you you're pregnant and

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then you have a child and then you walk

out with it and you can't believe that

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they handed you a baby You know like

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Dave: like what is this I can't believe

I went to like the free baby store Like

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where where am I Like I don't know what

I'm doing I and I feel like that there's

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that that philosophical sociological to

be like Hey this is you know like we're

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giving birth to this and it's big and you

know like let's let's get used to this

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new new new being coming into existence

right And leaving that up to corporations

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I I hear y'all That's that's a terrible

idea Like we we need to get a full

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full community involvement in this one

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Jerremy: Well, that's the,

that's an interesting point.

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Like are corporations more

corrupt than the government,

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Dave: Do you

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Jerremy: know?

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You know, I mean.

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Dave: and you put em together

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Jerremy: Ooh, let's let them both

control the citizens and the communities.

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Let's let 'em both tell us what to do.

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That's probably wonderful.

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People that wanna make a bunch of money,

and then people that wanna make a bunch

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of money from people who make a bunch of

money for them, which one is which Yeah.

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Where did you land in all this dude?

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The

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Dave: Yeah

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Jerremy: biggest pause

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Dave: is going to yeah

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Jerremy: of the series,

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Dave: pause that's cut out of this

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Jerremy: you could keep it

in there for a little bit.

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That's pretty good.

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Dave: long

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Jerremy: Yep.

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Dave: I geez There is the there is

there's more here Not that I need to

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know anymore as as far as the solutions I

heard that I'm like yep I get it The the

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the solutions that really held held up

for me Yeah it's it's on you So like if

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you're not doing work if you're not you

know preparing yourself if you're not it

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it feels a little bit like you you gotta

be a prepper with a bunker But no that is

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that isn't it That isn't it either it's

the Spending time money and energy in

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order to increase your options increase

your optionality Don't have things like

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happening around you and to you but you

know how to how to how to bend fate into

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future or future into fate Right And that

is you know like starting starting to to

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create your own luck around this so I hear

about the individual action right And That

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is something that you have to always do

it's now more important than ever the most

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important piece for me is the need for all

of that individual action is a systemic

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problem that needs to be We need to

hold the institutions the the businesses

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the governments We need to the our our

churches our our mosques Like everywhere

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where people gather we have to hold them

accountable We have to hold em accountable

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saying Hey it it isn't just the work

that you do it's the work that you do

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and the consequences that have it You are

also responsible for those those those

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consequences So there are systemic shifts

That are incredibly important And then the

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role of technology in this you know like

technology is both the the the the the

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cause and the solution here which seems

a little weird for me given how much how

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many problems that that Technology seems

to cause We we also I also have to be very

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careful in my way of thinking of a bit

Cassandra about it You know you and I talk

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about the economy and the rest of it I'm

like oh my God The the the markets have

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not priced in reality which I know is true

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Jerremy: This is, I know

that's true too also.

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Yeah.

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Dave: and

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Jerremy: I.

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Dave: you can't Living in that state

of fear is super easy and I think more

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people are gonna be afraid more than

ever And that's that's going to be the

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most important thing particularly as

men stand up for your community Right

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You know, to say, Hey, I I am going to

be a leader in this space It's going

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to be okay We are going to get through

this and we're gonna get better on

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the other side So that's where I think

that that institution that that That

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failure of institution that we all

feel is up to us to change it And it

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can happen in the in the local it can

happen in your neighborhood it can

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happen at your your church your mosque

your your community center And it

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starts with good strong men good strong

women you know coming out and saying

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Hey we got this That's where I landed

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Jerremy: This is a good

landing strip to land on, dude.

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Like it's a, like it's a

good airport to come in on.

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Dave: And

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Jerremy: Because we do need those,

we need those things for everything.

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Dave: Yes

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Jerremy: we, we really do.

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Is it, is it time?

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Can I, can I talk about the new mayor

running for la his viral campaign?

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Dave: I got nothing Yeah

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Jerremy: I mean,

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Dave: I

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who is it

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Jerremy: sp his name is,

I believe Spencer Pratt.

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I could be mistaken on that.

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Let me,

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Dave: he's the he's the developer right

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Jerremy: yeah.

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Dave: Oh

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I heard he was running last year

so he actually kicked it over Yeah

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oblivious on la I gotta

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Jerremy: No.

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Well, he is,

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Dave: buddy Olgo over there and say Hey

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what's

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Jerremy: mean, he is essentially

like, he's just created the,

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the best out of all time.

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Right?

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he, kind, yeah, it's a bold statement,

but he really did, he nailed it

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Dave: Tell

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Jerremy: essentially.

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Here's where the current mayor lives.

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Here's where Governor Newsom lives.

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Here's where people that are not you live.

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And then here's where I live because

my house burns down and now I live in a

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trailer and, and I've been living next

to you this whole time, and they're

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throwing all of their dog shit on us and

making us clean it up while they live

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in these amazing houses and pay for it.

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Let's take down the system

like it's like an anarchist ad.

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but it, it worked.

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It works well.

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And the reason I'm saying that is I

kind of feel like in a way he has this

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also energy of like, Hey, I'm a dad

who lost everything and now my family

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has to live in this trailer or this

rv, this pull behind this Airstream,

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Dave: Yeah

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Jerremy: and.

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Aren't you also tired of being a great

dad and getting punched in the mouth by

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Dave: Yeah

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Jerremy: rich politicians?

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And I don't think it's, I, I don't

think, I think it's the word rich.

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He wasn't like, here's other rich people.

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He was literally like, here's the

politicians that are getting rich off

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of you, and look what they're doing.

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Look how they're living and

look where, how we are living.

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We're living in the slums

because of them, because of them.

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Dave: I will take that a step

further but I wanna hear Well yeah

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keep going I I because it's it

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Jerremy: Go step it up, dude.

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:

This is like a step battle.

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Dave: I've had this rant before and I'm

I'm gonna I'm gonna keep going until

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somebody stops me It's I was I don't

even remember where it was from but

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one of the things one of the one of the

guys asked like the other guy which is

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like okay so why aren't we seeing more

rioting in the streets Like well you know

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like there's such income in inequality

There's such craziness going on overseas

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that the it might even been Tim Dylan

right You know it's like kids can't buy

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a house so that we can drop bombs on

the other side of the world And I'm like

557

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that's crazy talk Right Like who wants

to live in that society you know like it

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any sense that that my healthcare

has almost tripled in five years

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And we're you know like we're we're

we're killing kids halfway around

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the world Like what This is what $1.5

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trillion in order to like make You

know make make the CEO of Raytheon you

562

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know give give them another you know

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private you know another Boeing

business jet You know it's

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Jerremy: Uhhuh.

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Dave: you know like we our our morals

are out of step with with America

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and Americans are you know have said

repeatedly Look you gotta listen to

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us We're gonna throw in the craziest

politician that we can think of Donald

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Trump in order to break this system

because he says he knows what we're

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feeling and he knows how the system's

broken So he's gonna drain the swamp and

570

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do all this stuff And he got it Looks like

he got captured too So this frustration

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is is growing and growing and growing has

been growing on for years And what this

572

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guy said was And the reason why we're

not having any more riot in the streets

573

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why we're not seeing more of this other

than this online you know echo chamber

574

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Is that we don't have anybody really to

blame It's this amorphous them you know

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it's those politicians it's those you

know like it's that government And that's

576

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too big That's too crazy Like it's not

specific enough It's not until you you

577

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started you know putting things against

an Epstein class where you could be like

578

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oh I can actually oh that I I know who

those people are right Like I know who

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the Epstein class and yeah I can I can

definitely hang that on them And so for

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for me I I I feel like it's the goddamn

boomers you know like Jesus They have

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been in charge for 40 years and they

won't give like there are politicians

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who are dying in office dying in

583

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and refuse to leave you know like you know

active cancer Jerry Conley who used to

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be my representative in Northern Virginia

He was decaying on in in in on on tv

585

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Jerremy: Yeah.

586

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Dave: And he died rather than just retire

and you know it's like Jesus why why

587

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why why wouldn't you wanna spend like

your last few months with your family

588

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Like what kind of sickness is this that

you you boomers have of you know this

589

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this hold on power We want all of the

money all of the benefits I I mean like

590

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everything that Americans Versus boomers

it's America versus boomers that Americas

591

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want Americans want you know healthcare

affordable homes education safety They

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get The rest of us do not you know like

everything is geared towards their health

593

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their wealth their happiness and not

for us It's it's them and us It it is

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:

it is it is animal farm We are deep in

animal farm And that is that is gonna be

595

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that's my t-shirt That's gonna be my my

my face tattoo is like we've gotta we've

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gotta start holding boomers accountable

because this is bonkers They created this

597

:

Jerremy: And now they're about

to retire and travel around.

598

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The travel around the us.

599

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No, not retiring.

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They're just gonna keep working.

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Dave: their peptides They're gonna try and

live another a hundred years and stay in

602

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power That's what they're gonna try and do

603

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Jerremy: We're coming after you.

604

:

Boomers

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Dave: Go punch a boomer in the face

606

:

Jerremy: we're coming after you.

607

:

Dave: Alright Sorry that was my rant

608

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Jerremy: good rant.

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Dave: Clip of that one Punch

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:

a face

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Jerremy: Good rant.

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Dave: I'm

613

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not calling for violence on old people

but dammit You know like this is about

614

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that responsibility again It's like you

guys have been in charge and you have

615

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left demonstrably worse world all over

the world is demonstrably worse because of

616

:

the boomers There is there are a handful

of things that are slightly better you

617

:

know like I don't know More people in

the world are living out of poverty We'll

618

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we'll we'll we'll give them that one

619

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Jerremy: Yeah, that that is true.

620

:

Yeah.

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Dave: Right You know like Americans in

general are have a higher standard of

622

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living All right great But on every metric

that actually matters whether it's health

623

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whether it's even living longer than your

parents whether it's having opportunities

624

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having children having happiness having

a hope for the future not one metric that

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actually matters is even is even slightly

going up And we have to hold the boomers

626

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accountable for that They created this

627

:

Jerremy: Okay.

628

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Yeah, I, I mean it, but it's, it's

a, at least it's a group, right?

629

:

To your point,

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like, need to blame someone

very, very specific, very direct.

631

:

And what's cool about it, Dave and I

like to take is I don't think anyone's

632

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like, it's the older people in the

country, but the boomers specifically

633

:

who have been raised and just.

634

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P and, and this wealth that has

just increased exponentially.

635

:

I see a bunch of memes on Instagram

and Twitter, and they're all kind

636

:

of funny where it's like, here's

my granddad who bought his house

637

:

for a dollar and a Popsicle stick.

638

:

Dave: Right

639

:

Jerremy: then he, and then

he sold it for $4 million.

640

:

And that is, that part is real.

641

:

I talked, when I was in Laguna

Beach, I talked to numerous people

642

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just walking down the road and

there's the, you know, the shirtless

643

:

boomer, pushing his lawnmower

644

:

Dave: Mm-hmm

645

:

Jerremy: on his 400 inches of grass and.

646

:

we would have a conversation and I'm

like, Hey, man, how long you been here?

647

:

I was like, oh, I been here for 32 years.

648

:

Dave: Mm-hmm

649

:

Jerremy: that's incredible.

650

:

And then with third or fourth sentences,

they're so excited to tell you.

651

:

It's like, yeah, man, this

house is my retirement.

652

:

You know, I bought it for $213,000 now

it's worth five and a half million.

653

:

Dave: Oh

654

:

Jerremy: You know, and they can just.

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Dave: this is my third home

That's the part that kills me

656

:

Jerremy: Yeah.

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:

Yeah.

658

:

This is the third one.

659

:

We, me, me and me and Denise

picked up another one 10 years ago

660

:

Dave: Yeah

661

:

Jerremy: on with equity from this house

that we didn't have to pay any taxes on.

662

:

Yeah, man.

663

:

It's,

664

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Dave: Ah

665

:

Jerremy: it is very,

666

:

Dave: Mm-hmm

667

:

Jerremy: it's very prevalent, the

awareness and the understanding that

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there are people that are not being held

responsible for the lack of improvement.

669

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Dave: Well I like the

Pratt message He's like

670

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you know like these guys and not that

that you know the mayor of LA or or You

671

:

know Gavin Newsom they're not boomers but

they're the product of the boomers They're

672

:

in the boomer stew you know like that

that is how they got ahead was playing

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by the boomer rules And that is that's

really real to say Hey look I'm in this

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with you and this is the problem And like

I'm living in a trailer and nothing's

675

:

been done I can't believe that that after

what Two over two years that they haven't

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completely rebuilt LA And it's it should

be should be a testament to what we can

677

:

do It should be beautiful And and and

and I mean it should be incredible It's

678

:

it's it's the second largest city in the

United States and it should be incredible

679

:

It should be completely reformed after

all of this And it's not That's crazy

680

:

Jerremy: Yeah.

681

:

Yes.

682

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Yes, that I think that that is gonna

be, I, I would put Gavin Newsom

683

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winning the presidency at 0% chance.

684

:

Dave: no way

685

:

Jerremy: Zero and it, because that's

gonna be the big one where it's like,

686

:

dude, what are you talking about?

687

:

Like as you go, if he at least was

trying and going on Twitter, often,

688

:

going on podcasts, often talking

about how he's actually gonna fix it

689

:

and, and began fixing it and began

helping and began doing some type

690

:

of government aid or construction

projects or reframing or bro, something,

691

:

Dave: Hey

692

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Jerremy: something.

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:

Dave: we we can all agree on Government

being fundamentally broken It's

694

:

come up like a billion times in a

695

:

interviews After 200 episodes It's like

where does the money go Well it it doesn't

696

:

go to where it needs to go That's all we

know Right And so it's this graft it's

697

:

this you know it's this leakiness it's

this you know like I I when I worked on

698

:

the government I couldn't bend a paperclip

for under a hundred thousand dollars

699

:

Right So I it was you know just absolutely

ridiculous The you know amount of of Of

700

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not only bureaucratic red tape but all

of the all of the hands that the money

701

:

goes through You know I in in the Quasar

networks our our other you know crossover

702

:

show you know you you have to be paying

attention to politics because you're not

703

:

paying attention to your portfolio because

the the government is both the biggest

704

:

employer and also the biggest spender

in the United States globally right So

705

:

like And it's it's full of a bunch of

garbage If government was working I think

706

:

everybody would be like of course I want

to be doing more of that But it's not

707

:

Jerremy: Yeah, I know it's not.

708

:

It is not.

709

:

Dave: where

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:

Jerremy: Yeah.

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:

where, well, I, I, I had to look up really

quick how old God the Newsom is, because

712

:

I'm like, man, I feel like he's a boomer.

713

:

Dave: Yeah

714

:

Jerremy: not, he's three years,

715

:

Dave: I

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Jerremy: three years, three years short.

717

:

1967 is his birthday.

718

:

Dave: He's older than me

719

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Jerremy: October ten, fifty

eight years old,:

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:

So the Boomers end in 1964.

721

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Officially, they go from 1946 to

:

722

:

for about 20 years after that.

723

:

Anyway.

724

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Dave: As the official spokesperson

for Gen X I I I denounce him and have

725

:

thrown him out of the of our club

726

:

Jerremy: that's funny.

727

:

where did I land?

728

:

Well, I thi this is kinda my, my

belief is that we just need to change.

729

:

We, we need to change the dream.

730

:

I mean, that's where I landed

is we gotta change the contract

731

:

that's been given to us.

732

:

Dave: Oh yeah Yeah

733

:

Jerremy: I I would love for government

agencies to do more help, but.

734

:

And I want them to, and I

actually believe that they should.

735

:

And I believe that they should be

held accountable, and I believe they

736

:

should actually create something

remarkable and powerful for us

737

:

as individuals and as citizens.

738

:

And ultimately for me, I think the new

American dream is instead of owning

739

:

a house, would be owning equity.

740

:

Because it equity's a

more interesting word.

741

:

It's a more powerful word.

742

:

It's a more true word.

743

:

'cause when you buy a house, you're buying

a house that you can gain equity, right?

744

:

You can gain ownership value

and profitability in something.

745

:

That was what was sold to people.

746

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But they haven't really ever

looked at the math to understand

747

:

that they don't go ahead.

748

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Dave: Yeah let me ask you about that I

I I think you mentioned that your your

749

:

your your lovely wife VEA I she has a

certainly a need to to to nest and has

750

:

a has a has a safety has a grounding

around the ownership of of the home So

751

:

is there and I don't think she's alone

Like there's a there's a bit of a I

752

:

I feel it I I rent right And it's the

first time I've I've rented you know in

753

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in my life you know in my adult life you

know like there's a certain impermanence

754

:

there's a certain non-investment in

the community is When you say owning

755

:

equity what does what does that mean

756

:

Jerremy: Well, the word, I mean for

me initially can be owning stocks.

757

:

Dave: Yeah yeah Yeah

758

:

Jerremy: I think, I think said,

Hey, I'd rather have a thousand

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:

shares of the s and p 500.

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Dave: Mm-hmm

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Jerremy: Than than a house.

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Make that your goal.

763

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Dave: Yeah

764

:

Jerremy: You will, you will have

more profitability when you're 60

765

:

Dave: Hmm

766

:

Jerremy: you own a home.

767

:

because when people say, oh, I wanna

own a home, I'm gonna purchase a

768

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home, you're not purchasing anything.

769

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You don't own anything.

770

:

You're paying debt.

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:

paying the bank an interest loan that is.

772

:

Almost unprecedented.

773

:

Unprecedented is not the right word.

774

:

It it, it is so egregiously high

that if you sit down and do the math,

775

:

the house has to more than double.

776

:

Essentially, the house has to triple in

value in 30 years at a six per, like for

777

:

the boomers, it's got a triple in value.

778

:

They did it.

779

:

They, they figured it out.

780

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It's got a triple in value,

for you to have after you've

781

:

paid the house off any actual.

782

:

Appreciation on your money.

783

:

That's, that's a wild statistic.

784

:

The thing has to triple in value.

785

:

Dave: Yeah That's crazy

786

:

Jerremy: Yeah.

787

:

so owning equity, like if we, if we

start renting longer and we make our.

788

:

Money begin to buy something

that appreciates in value.

789

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So if you rent a house, but then you

go and buy an investment house, or you

790

:

invest into a fund, or you invest into a

business startup, or you start purchasing,

791

:

AI agents, or you're investing into

yourself, or some, the, the mindset shift

792

:

is gonna go from the real big shift.

793

:

The American dream that's gonna

change is instead of owning.

794

:

Tangible physical things that

we believe are assets you

795

:

begin to invest into ethereal.

796

:

Non-tangible things that increase in

value, that actually give you more money.

797

:

Dave: Hmm

798

:

Jerremy: And that can be

mindset, that can be coaching,

799

:

that can be interpersonal work.

800

:

That's my biggest return by far, is like

spending money on my brain, spending money

801

:

on my mind, spending money on my health.

802

:

Those are, in a way, intangible.

803

:

You can't, like a house, I, I, I have

a couple houses and I can touch them.

804

:

It's like, okay, I can touch this house.

805

:

That's cool.

806

:

This is a physical asset.

807

:

That's what my brain says.

808

:

This is a tangible piece of value,

but, but I know the math behind

809

:

that, and it's, it's just really not,

810

:

Dave: So who are you renting from in

this And what about the the you know

811

:

like I I need to have that stability

812

:

Jerremy: which is incredibly,

incredibly important.

813

:

Man.

814

:

I mean, the stability for my wife and I,

I think for other women is if you know.

815

:

you're going to be renting there

for a longer period of time, fine.

816

:

Who are you renting from?

817

:

Probably a boomer.

818

:

So you're just gonna keep paying them.

819

:

But, but really that's

not always the case.

820

:

I mean, there's tons of people that.

821

:

Individuals, individual people,

individual, you, you, you know,

822

:

families that owned that house

that have moved out of it.

823

:

I would definitely rather pay them than

some type of huge fund or something.

824

:

and I do believe ultimately that we do

it, as we see it and as we notice it,

825

:

the, the change in the shift of like.

826

:

We can rent for a period of time.

827

:

But to make your woman feel

safer, that contract can just

828

:

be a longer rent contract.

829

:

Dave: Yeah

830

:

Jerremy: she would've necessarily

cared if we kind of kept staying

831

:

in for three or four more years,

as long as she knew that upfront.

832

:

Dave: Yeah.

833

:

Yeah,

834

:

Jerremy: If she knew for sure,

Hey, we're gonna be here for

835

:

three years and we're gonna rent.

836

:

But renting homes, to me feels.

837

:

Very free and very flexible and very

exciting and non per and non-permanent.

838

:

And for ladies, it's

just a timeline thing.

839

:

As long as they know how long they're

gonna be there, they don't stress out.

840

:

But they, I do believe the vast, vast

majority of women in this country do want

841

:

to have a family and they want to put down

roots somewhere, and they want to have a.

842

:

in a repeatable way for the children and

for the babies to grow up in a safe place.

843

:

think that's just like an internal

motherhood, feminine energy,

844

:

that it's never gonna go away.

845

:

It's never gonna change, nor should it.

846

:

And I think that's perfectly okay to

go, Hey ladies, we understand that.

847

:

And as long as you can kind of understand

the, the, the timeline of all that,

848

:

I think everything is perfectly fine.

849

:

Dave: Yeah Yeah and also depending on

time of life right You know if you're

850

:

if if kids are out and you're you're

a bit older it might be like Hey you

851

:

know chase the sun or it may be like

I I this is my community and I want to

852

:

be here and I want to have an ownership

in in this community It might be that

853

:

too So like it's we're we're not saying

what what the prescription is for the

854

:

individual what the solution is right

This is this is solving America's problems

855

:

It's that When you what I'm hearing Is

when you when you plow all of when you

856

:

plow so much money and so much equity

into a physical object like a house you

857

:

may feel better but it is clipping your

wings on the other side And if you want

858

:

to maintain that freedom there are other

ways of growing your wealth growing your

859

:

freedom for growing the possibilities

than owning a house So thinking

860

:

different way Yeah

861

:

Jerremy: Yep.

862

:

Precisely thinking about it in a

different way, creating new beliefs, new

863

:

paradigms, new potentially new ideas,

new futures where it's not the exact

864

:

same thing that you got, that you bought

that was sold to you 25 years ago.

865

:

I think that, I think that

whole process is shifting Dr.

866

:

Dramatically.

867

:

Dave: Hmm Hmm

868

:

Jerremy: that's where I landed.

869

:

Man.

870

:

It's changing.

871

:

Big shift.

872

:

It's a whole different dream.

873

:

It's a whole different dis disagreement.

874

:

And the current president that we have

in place is fully bought in as a boomer.

875

:

to that, to the, to that dream of, yeah.

876

:

This is a, it's a real estate world.

877

:

It's an ownership world.

878

:

It's a, invest into that long-term

asset without worrying about the

879

:

consequences of interest rates And.

880

:

I mean, he, he is the problem

that you're diagnosing dude.

881

:

Like he is the antithesis of that, where

it's, he's not thinking differently.

882

:

It's the same thing that's always been.

883

:

It's the beat up.

884

:

You're the person that you don't like

with a bigger club than you, and make

885

:

fun of everyone and put everyone down.

886

:

Just make as much money as humanly

possible and keep making as much

887

:

money as humanly possible and

keep working as long as possible.

888

:

I mean, he's the oldest president

that's been sitting in office now,

889

:

Dave: Yeah no more

890

:

Jerremy: so

891

:

Dave: you are if you

forget it No more No more

892

:

Jerremy: I

893

:

Dave: I'm I'm done You know like

go you know go spend time with

894

:

your great-grandchildren enough

895

:

of this.

896

:

Jerremy: yeah, totally.

897

:

You should.

898

:

Dave: Well

899

:

look what the reality we don't know And

what I I I wanna make a lot more people

900

:

know about is that it means that the the

particularly the Senate and the Congress

901

:

like they've set that up as an old age

home Like they have doc they have they

902

:

have so many doctors they have complete

medical that's right there You can get

903

:

your hair cut you can get your shop Being

done You have all the staff you get you

904

:

know carted off from here to there There's

there's there's a there's tunnels between

905

:

the buildings and you know they get on

golf carts and they go between these It's

906

:

like this is an old age home and they

just happen to be the ones that are are

907

:

pulling the levers And the reality of that

is that they leave the governing to their

908

:

staff who are younger people and we they

have zero accountability You don't think

909

:

that these old people have any idea what

the real things are It's like ask them how

910

:

much like a Like a ask them ask them the

question about how much a a gallon of milk

911

:

costs and like they wouldn't have any idea

912

:

Jerremy: Yes, correct.

913

:

No clue.

914

:

Most of 'em don't.

915

:

that was a popular, a

very popular Ellen show.

916

:

she brought in, bill Gates.

917

:

It was like just asking

him the price of things.

918

:

It's like one of her most viral

videos ever was just her asking like,

919

:

how she put out a loaf of bread.

920

:

It's like, how much does this cost?

921

:

Dave: I had no idea Yeah

922

:

Jerremy: No, he had no clue.

923

:

Dave: and it's and that's really just the

detachment right You know like they they

924

:

are not feeling it because they're both

ex they're all extremely wealthy Right

925

:

And so if that the the price of gas is it

went up a dollar in Indiana yesterday a

926

:

dollar On average you know for something

to go up a dollar on average Can you

927

:

imagine So they're they're getting $6

a gallon in places in Chicago like this

928

:

Is that that we don't have a tax Holli

Gavin Newsom not G God Sorry my my crazy

929

:

one DeSantis Called a special session of

the Florida State Legislature in order

930

:

to do gerrymandering Come on They didn't

do a tax holiday They they're not even

931

:

discussing it They could knock 30 30 20

20 off the cost of gas if they just said

932

:

Hey we're not gonna collect taxes for the

next year on on gasoline They did none

933

:

of that They decided to disenfranchise

voters instead I'm like oh my God I

934

:

wanna burn Tallahassee to the ground

again I'm not saying that but I want to

935

:

Jerremy: Yeah, don't do that.

936

:

Dave: do that I'm not saying do that I'm

not calling for any VI violence police

937

:

officers and and NSA and FBI I'm not

calling for that And the frustration

938

:

is real because the real thing is we

have the price of gas going through the

939

:

roof and it is totally because boomers

decide to destroy another country You

940

:

know that is why it is self-inflicted

and the boomers that are here are saying

941

:

eh whatever I don't pay for gas anyways

942

:

Jerremy: Yeah, agreed.

943

:

Agreed.

944

:

They're like,

945

:

Dave: my God that's crazy

946

:

Jerremy: I do.

947

:

Well, I do.

948

:

'cause they're like, they're,

they're driving Teslas and they're,

949

:

they're driving, most of 'em,

all of 'em are driving Teslas.

950

:

And then they have their, their

expenses covered by the passive

951

:

income from the houses they own.

952

:

They're renting out to other people.

953

:

Dave: Yeah

954

:

Jerremy: So, yeah, I agree that they

don't, they're, I agree with they,

955

:

they're not worrying about the gas.

956

:

Maybe that's what I should say.

957

:

The boomer boomers aren't

worrying about gas prices.

958

:

I should probably say that.

959

:

Yeah.

960

:

and, and I, and I like your take, man.

961

:

I like the controversial take of

like, hey, this is the, the generation

962

:

that's causing the problems.

963

:

'cause they have the power, they

have the aids, they have the wisdom,

964

:

they have the insight, they have

the money, have the time earth,

965

:

they have the time on the planet.

966

:

they are the biggest

consumers of resources.

967

:

They're the biggest consumers.

968

:

And,

969

:

Dave: than any generation

in the history of humanity

970

:

Jerremy: And nothing's been fixed.

971

:

Dave: No the worst I mean it's like ah

Oh grandchildren Oh great-grandchildren

972

:

I want you paying for my crap with

a God $41 trillion of debt right

973

:

now Oh that'll never have to Oh that

will That's on you Great-grandchild

974

:

Jerremy: Yeah.

975

:

We'll, we'll just keep

kicking the can down the road.

976

:

Don't worry about it.

977

:

It's gonna be fine.

978

:

Dave: It's like they I believe in their

hearts boomers truly hate humanity

979

:

that's that's the only conclusion I've

come to is that boomers hate human

980

:

Jerremy: Well with that, on

that note, what should By what?

981

:

Yeah, so UBI is next.

982

:

Is everyone ready for that?

983

:

You believe is?

984

:

Dave: I I started listening yesterday

to some of it it's it's interesting

985

:

I don't I'm I'm I'm not sure how I

feel about it I've been asking around

986

:

it's like what do you think of UBI

And and everybody does seem to have an

987

:

opinion so I'm I'm excited about that

988

:

Jerremy: Yeah, it's gonna be good.

989

:

I'm excited about it.

990

:

Super pumped.

991

:

and gentlemen, listeners, and again, thank

you for coming in by the droves to support

992

:

this podcast and to keep showing up and

to keep giving us ideas and thoughts.

993

:

Dave: Record

994

:

Jerremy: excited.

995

:

Yeah.

996

:

Record month.

997

:

Dave: month This is our

our biggest listeners More

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:

have listened to us this month than

any other one so thank you Everything's

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:

trending in the right direction

:

00:52:05,134 --> 00:52:06,214

Jerremy: Yeah, so thank you so much.

:

00:52:06,214 --> 00:52:06,484

We're gonna

:

00:52:06,556 --> 00:52:06,676

Dave: I.

:

00:52:06,694 --> 00:52:07,054

Jerremy: doing this.

:

00:52:07,054 --> 00:52:08,644

We're gonna keep just chatting with you.

:

00:52:09,134 --> 00:52:12,464

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Would love to have you.

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We want to hear your opinion on things.

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00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:18,299

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00:52:18,299 --> 00:52:21,059

It is okay have a political discussion.

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That's what the whole podcast is

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Solving America’s Problems isn’t just a podcast—it’s a journey. Co-host Jerremy Newsome, a successful entrepreneur and educator, is pursuing his lifelong dream of running for president. Along the way, he and co-host Dave Conley bring together experts, advocates, and everyday Americans to explore the real, actionable solutions our country needs.

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