Episode 185

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Published on:

11th Mar 2026

Nobody Talks About Their Job on Their Deathbed

A buddy told Dave he was qualified for "stupid" — that's how he got hired at AOL with 200 college credits and nothing to show for it. Jerremy Alexander Newsome and Dave Conley skip the inspirational playbook and get blunt: showing your feet on Instagram is not a career, professional athlete is not a plan, and your gap year needs a deadline. Then the real edge: Americans are trapped in a cycle where income equals identity, work equals endurance, and nobody on their deathbed says they wish they'd logged more hours. AI is about to torch the middle class. The post-abundance world might free us — if the right people write the rules.

Timestamps:

  1. (00:28) Dave had 200 credits and no degree — a buddy called him qualified for "stupid" – that's how careers actually start
  2. (06:30) Every party opens with "what do you do?" – Americans live to work while Europe works to live
  3. (10:53) Your legacy is not your LinkedIn headline – love, family, and what you built are the only things that survive
  4. (12:06) AI won't just take jobs — it'll erase the identity people built around them – the middle class gets hit first

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Alex:

Jerremy puts Dave on the SPOT—mentor hat on, what do you tell

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a twenty-two-year-old right now?

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Dave's answer starts with 200

college credits and zero direction...

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and the lesson underneath is sharper

than any résumé bullet point.,

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Jerremy: But I think, I think

it is probably a young thing.

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and so for speaking of Dave, I mean, you

have to think back on this one, right?

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Big, like really

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Dave: Such an asshole.

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Jerremy: Put, put your mentor hat on here.

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'cause you used to coach men all the time.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: and I

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: nephew and I'm gonna

make sure he listens to this.

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If you were 22, what would

you be doing right now?

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Like what's your suggestion for people?

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I.

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Dave: Well, in, in my situation

where I was, at 22, I was, I was

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meandering around college without

any idea what I wanted to do.

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I had like 200 credit hours with

no degree in sight, like none.

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If it wasn't for a buddy of mine

who said, Hey, you should come down

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my, my, my company's hiring stupid.

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And clearly you qualify.

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So why don't you bring your resume down?

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so, and that's how I got my first job.

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I, and I was hired at this little

company that almost nobody had heard

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of, called a OL America Online.

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And I was off to the races.

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I, I was not good at college, but it

turns out I was really good at business.

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once you, once you put like, solving

business problems and making money

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and all of that together, I was like,

oh, is this what this is all about?

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Right?

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Because I'd had, I'd had jobs,

but I didn't have career jobs.

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Right.

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So at 22, I would've said, get out there.

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I wish I'd gotten into like real

estate, like commercial real estate.

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I'd wish I'd gotten into stocks.

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I loved stocks.

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Then, I'm, I, I'd probably be mentoring

you by this time if I'd stuck with that.

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Dave: but that was before you

could really do, online trading.

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But I loved stocks, I loved all that.

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I probably would've gone, I would've said,

go and get a job or join the military or

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something, because I just didn't have the

discipline to, to stick it out in college.

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I wasn't, I wasn't motivated that way.

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And, and, and as soon as you started

paying me, I was like, oh, I'm in.

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So I would've been like, just,

like if anybody's thinking about

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do a gap year or whatever, it's

like, yeah, put a timetable on it.

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It's like, okay, I wanna spend

this one year learning this

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skill or doing this thing.

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And then, after the end of the

year, if it works out, great.

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If it doesn't, then do something

else, or go back to school or

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go into the trades or something.

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So give yourself that time to

really explore, because at 22.

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I mean, at my age now, I barely

know what I'm, I I want to do at 22.

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I had no clue.

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So I'm like, look, you,

you gotta figure it out.

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I, and I don't think most people

figure it out, they end up in jobs,

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they'll turn around at 40 and they'll

have like a mortgage and kids, and

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they'll feel like frigging trapped

because they've trained and been

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in this job for their entire lives.

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And they're like, I don't wanna

do this for the next 20 years,

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and they have a midlife crisis.

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And I'm like, nah, you should, you should

really spend some real quality time, just

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being poor, And, and, screwing around

and trying different jobs and, and making

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friends and getting mentors and, and,

just doing a lot of different things.

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I'm not saying jump on a stripper pole,

I'm saying like, you can, you, you can,

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you can go and, and figure out, careers

and jobs and volunteer a lot of your

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time or, or get, crappy jobs within

companies, intern, that kind of stuff.

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So at 22 I'd be like, ah, forget this.

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Go, go, go get out into the real world.

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Fortunately I did, but

it was, it was dumb luck.

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Jerremy: don't be a stripper.

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That's the advice that Dave Conley has.

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Dave: no, everybody loves strippers.

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Who doesn't love strippers?

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Jerremy: You can get paid.

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Yeah.

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Dave: about you?

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22?

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Jerremy: bro.

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Tony, you got all the time in the world.

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What are you doing with

your 160 hours a week?

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Dave: Right,

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Jerremy: sleep for six to seven hours.

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You're 22,

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Dave: right, right.

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Jerremy: Work your face

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Dave: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Jerremy: anyone, everyone, whoever,

whenever, wherever, doing whatever, and

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do it and get experience and see what

you like, and see what you don't like.

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I mean, that's it,

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Dave: The only caution I would throw

in here is professional athlete

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and online influencer are not jobs.

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Don't scroll TikTok all

day and say, I'm at work.

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You're not, you're, you're,

you're bullshitting yourself.

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Dave: do something in the

real world, or do something

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that is actually making money.

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showing your feet on Instagram is not it.

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Jerremy: Correct, Yeah.

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I mean, people do make money doing it.

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but again, it's the same percent

chance as being an athlete.

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Like it's so rare, it's so difficult, it's

so challenging and so hard to replicate.

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But the realistic case is you

can go into your neighborhood

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: create income by offering your

time, your services, your skills, your

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height, your strength, your energy, your

endurance put up, Christmas lights so

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much you can do, so much you can do.

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yeah, man, and I think for anyone

of any age, if you read one or two,

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very powerful, very big, incredible

audacious thinking books, books that

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allow you to think creatively and in

depth, you do that once or twice a year.

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It can be the exact same book,

read it or listen to it or both.

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You'll continually get reminded.

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You'll continually get shifted.

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You'll continually get the updates.

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some for me that are almost

non-negotiables or Think and Grow Rich, I

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probably listen to it three times a year.

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Dave: Hmm.

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Jerremy: outwitting the Devil, probably

listen to it two or three times a year.

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You're a badass at

Making Money by Jens ero.

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I'm, I have a little bit of an

ego, so I listen to my own book

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a couple times 'cause I think

it's really good every year.

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And so just to hear some of the

things over and over that exist.

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But what it does is it triggers different

thoughts, different patterns, different

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beliefs, and different parts of your life.

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And if you're doing that regardless

of your age, you can always

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reinvent, reshape, reconnect, have,

build a bigger, better network.

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And there's a phrase where it's all about

who you know, which is true and accurate,

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but it's also about who knows you.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: you and what do you stand for?

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: that's going to increase

the likelihood and the odds of you

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winning, of you being successful,

of you moving forward in life, of

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you doing something remarkable.

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Who knows you?

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What do you stand for?

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Dave: Love it.

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I

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Dave: spot on.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Now this is a big one, 'cause I have

some very interesting opinions on this.

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Do you think Americans feel good about

work or is it something they just endure?

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Dave: Oh, I, I think

it's definitely endure.

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I, I don't, I don't feel like they're,

they're, I don't think Americans are

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celebrating their jobs by and large.

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I think it's, I think it's, it's,

it feels like a grind to me.

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I don't have any information on that

other than, and, and the people in

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my life are perfectly fine with their

jobs, but it feels like there's a

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malaise, and that's, that's my vibe.

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Do you have a different read on that?

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Jerremy: No.

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What's the phrase In Europe, I've

heard many people work to live.

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Dave: Mm-hmm.

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Jerremy: And in the US somehow we

have this really random, backwards

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approach where we live to work

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: and it's a, and

it's, it's an endurance race.

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This is what I do.

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I am defined by this job,

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: by this title, by

this income stream, right?

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Every party.

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What is it that you do?

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: you do?

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Dave: Right, right.

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Jerremy: What

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Dave: Yeah,

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Jerremy: And what we do defines

who we are and it shouldn't,

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Dave: no.

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Jerremy: right?

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People should not be leading

necessarily with that.

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I mean, an example, very rarely

I'm at any gathering of any size.

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Someone comes up to me.

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Says, Hey man, got your wife and kids,

or Hey man, is that your wife and kids?

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Or, Hey man, good shoes on.

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Do you like to run?

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like, no one's having

conversations anymore.

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I, I go up to other people and have

conversations and so no one's coming

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up to me, which is, which is weird.

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Maybe I'm scary looking, I don't know.

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But then at the same time, when we get

very, I mean very quick into almost

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every conversation, so what do you do?

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And again, here in the, here in

the US it is very much like this

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celebrated, this is what I do, this

is my job, this is how I make money.

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That's really what's important.

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I've definitely felt like in Europe

there is a slight difference there where

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people talk about having holiday, where

are you going on holiday this year?

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Dave: Mm.

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Jerremy: you get two

weeks paid at holiday.

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Everyone's excited about their holiday.

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Everyone's taking off work.

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They, you go to Spain, are closed at five.

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Dave: Right.

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Jerremy: siestas, people

are doing their thing.

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It's like, it's just

different in other countries.

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Now granted, we are the

wealthiest country in the world.

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Numerically we're also the most in debt.

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We have a lot of other

problems there going on.

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So we're winning in a very random

category of like we are the richest,

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per capita, so on and so forth.

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And that's why.

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But we treat the value of we

have more money as the number one

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Dave: Yeah,

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Jerremy: and it is not

the most important value.

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So saying all that to say most

people do they, they work because

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they must work 'cause they have

to work 'cause that's their title.

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'cause they don't know

anything else to do.

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I work with men all the time they feel

their number one job is to make money.

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And that's their most important

value as a dad, as a husband,

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as a father, is to make money.

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I provide, that's what I do.

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My job

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Dave: yeah, yeah.

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Jerremy: They feel like

they don't have enough time.

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They don't feel like

they have enough energy.

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They don't feel like they have enough

brain power to be something other than the

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dude who makes 85,000 a year plus bonuses.

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Dave: Hmm.

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I know with the, with a, the high

powered women that I had in my life,

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they, they are constantly feeling

like they can't give enough to work.

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They feel guilty about not being

able to give enough to work, and

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they feel guilty about not being able

to give enough to their families.

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And so they're in this

constant guilt spiral of.

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Disappointing everyone when they're

not, they're only disappointing

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themselves and they're disappointing

themselves in their heads.

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And I think, what you have to say

there is really important, but I don't

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know how we break that cycle, right?

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if you just say to somebody, look,

you've been getting an a plus in work

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for a long time, but at the end of

your life, nobody's going to say,

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well, I'm sure you made the, the

world safer by whatever it is you did.

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every week, day in and day out,

they're gonna say, that I was

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loved and I loved other people.

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It's not gonna, nobody's gonna talk

about their job on their deathbed.

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Jerremy: No one dude.

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Dave: not one person, they're gonna talk

about their friends and their family

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and, their legacy and, and that that

does not happen, be my legacy does not

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happen from behind a computer screen.

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Jerremy: Truth bomb.

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truth bomb.

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Totally agree, ma'am.

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it's fascinating.

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It's really interesting.

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It's just good to, it's good for

people to see, and I would say that

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you probably could have two choices,

if you would talk about what you did,

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: wouldn't be called a job.

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It would be called Legacy.

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be something that you are amazing and,

and incredible at, and loved and dreamed

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about, and breathed about every day.

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It could definitely be your

accomplishments, but if you, as a human

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being dread the majority of your day,

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Dave: Oh.

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Jerremy: I promise there is a better

way to live, and it requires courage.

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What doesn't?

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It requires money, what doesn't?

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And it requires time.

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You have to.

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Understand and work

from the end backwards.

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Where do I want to go?

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What am I gonna be talking

about at my deathbed?

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What did I build?

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: slowly work your way backwards.

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You can actually start creating a more

compelling vision because things are

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changing, man, and I, everyone knows it.

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Everyone feels it.

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It it is here, it's gonna happen.

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the middle class is gonna

be, is gonna be torched.

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the lower class, unfortunately, is gonna

continue to get more disenfranchised.

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the richer will become richer

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: what AI is gonna be doing,

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: right?

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The people that, that have a know and

have all the money and can buy and can

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shift, and can reframe and whatever,

they're gonna make the most money.

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and the poor will continue to be poor.

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And the, the middle class, they're the

ones that are gonna be fighting and.

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For anyone who's listening, the

middle class is probably gonna be a

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lot different than you might think.

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you may or may not feel like if you

are or not, but I'm here to tell you,

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if you don't know, if you're not in

the middle class, you probably are.

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right.

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You're probably there.

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if you're, because you're either

like, dude, I'm super poor.

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You're like, no, I'm definitely

not in the middle class.

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Fair.

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Been there sucks, right?

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Let's, let's figure it out.

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you're like, no, I'm definitely

not in the middle class.

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So if you can't say absolutely

not, then you probably are.

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And that means that there's gonna

be a lot of shifting for you and for

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us and for the individuals that need

to create bigger, better, and more.

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And I don't know if that's

gonna, I don't think college

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is gonna be that answer, ma'am.

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Dave: No.

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Jerremy: not college.

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It's gonna be some version of massively

totally shifted an educational approach

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for individuals and for people.

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And, a a big dream, would

be to get Andrew Yang.

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the pod, Mr.

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Conley to talk about his universal basic

income because essentially you right,

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his book is and was, Hey man, like AI's

gonna take your jobs, but AI's gonna

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be making you a lot of money and all

these companies are gonna have so much

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profits 'cause we're all doing our thing.

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So these companies can contribute to this

UBI fund this universal basic income fund

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and everyone can just get paid to live.

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And it's such an interesting belief system

and I can absolutely see the pros on it.

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I can definitely see the content

of it it's a unique take.

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But I also understand that going into

the post abundance world, 'cause you have

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the post, we've talked about this so many

times, post abundance and post scarcity.

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The post scarcity world is the one that

the fear mongers are painting the picture

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of the robots and the, the terminator and.

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The wars and the nukes and everyone has

loss of income, jobs, power, energy.

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The grid falls apart, the US dollar

falls apart, and we fight each other

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with sticks and stones get a chicken.

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There's a lot of people who, who push

that often, especially the far right

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: of the conservatives are like,

it's coming, it's coming, it's coming.

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And they sell their newsletter.

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Well then you have a,

an interesting world.

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I wouldn't, I would not classify as a left

approach or a democratic approach, but

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what I would call it is something more

in the line of the abundant belief where

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you can have a world that goes into the

direction that machines do work for us.

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They can create income for us.

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They do allow us if we have a

leader and someone who can champion

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this vision to take a step back

in life a little bit and work.

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Slightly less so instead of spending

85 hours a week, unless you're

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in your early twenties, right?

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If you're forties and above and you want

to spend a whole four hours a day with

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your kiddos, you have the ability to,

and not only do you have the ability,

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you have the privilege, you have

the time, you have the opportunity.

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Do you have machines, robots, ai, that's

helping you with your business, with your

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lawn mowing, with your dishes, with your

social media, with whatever you're doing,

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so that it can help you be more present.

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And the truth of the matter is

it's going to require someone.

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group of people and individuals and

classes and courses and teachers and

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programs to help people to instruct

them on how to do that, here in America.

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Otherwise, we're just gonna keep falling

into the same he cycle that we're in

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now, where everyone just keeps working

and working and working and oh, now

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I have more time to do what work.

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To do what?

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To make more money.

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To do what?

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Make more money to To

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Dave: Right, right, right.

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Jerremy: I'm like, bro, you're

on the same hamster wheel now.

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You just have more time and you're

not using this post abundance

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world that we're being given.

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I think it's just a really,

really fascinating parallel

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of, of what's available.

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But we do have to incorporate

it in the right way.

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And there needs to be more leaders

that are talking about how to

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actually step into that world.

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'cause I do think that there's

a version of that is coming

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Dave: Of UBI.

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Yeah, I'll reach out to Andrew.

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I've heard, Elon talk about,

universal, what'd he say?

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Maximum income base, not BA

basic, but like universal maximum

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income, something like that.

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I dunno.

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yeah, I don't know.

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I'm not sold on the UBI thing.

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I think it, it doesn't, but, but saying

that, what I do know this is that

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we've, we've had like, we'll call it

two, three-ish sort of economic models

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for the last a hundred plus years.

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capitalism, some sort of a communism,

let's call it, more realistically

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like socialism, which was, more,

more of, more, Or social capitalism.

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And then you have like the, the

other one, which is a real tight

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interweave of, of, of government

and, and, and, and, private industry.

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like a, like a China model, right?

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So that's, that's it.

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All of those systems are dependent

on global trade, meaning you

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have to be able to trade with

everybody all over the planet.

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And it depends on consumerism and

increasing sizes of populations.

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And both of those things

are falling apart.

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The whole global, trade thing is

devolving, into regionalism, right?

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Like it, it really started in

the United States with nafta.

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and, the other thing is, is

that, most of the, the world is

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shrinking, not growing, right?

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So the people who have money,

there's a lot fewer of them.

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Because you are missing the two pieces

that actually make capitalism work, make

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all of those financial systems work.

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There is a new financial system

that we haven't seen yet,

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and I don't know what it is.

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so that's, that's the

piece where I'm like, Hmm.

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I don't, I don't know.

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I don't know what it is, but it,

we, it is definitely changing.

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it is not what we see today, and I

think that's a part of what we're,

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we're talking about here today.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Yep, exactly.

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There's gonna be a lot of shifting, man.

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And here's an interesting one that I

think we probably will be surprised by,

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and I think everyone's probably asking

and there's gonna be some big takes on

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it, but someone literally asked me like,

will AI create more jobs than it destroys?

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Or is this time different?

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and according to a couple research papers

and a few other things, AI will create

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78 million net jobs globally by 2030.

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Technology transitions generally have

produced more employment, not less.

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that was some, some, someone mentioned

that at the World Economic Forum recently.

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but.

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I think 78 million jobs is

not that many personally.

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Dave: now.

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Jerremy: And it's like, okay,

so AI creates that many jobs.

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So new people can do new things with

ai, total of 78 million people, which

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is, it's a cool swath of individuals

globally and anyone listening can

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definitely be a part of that 78 million.

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But seeing the robots, seeing some

of the things online and being very,

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very, I definitely wouldn't say on

the cutting edge, but, but having

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friends like you that do study this

stuff frequently, I am extremely on the

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side that it's gonna take more jobs.

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It's gonna create, I mean, I'm going

to, I've been to numerous restaurants

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in Vegas, Dave, numerous more than a

dozen, and I don't eat out that much.

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So that says a little bit where

it is a screen and I now work.

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Dave: Ugh.

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Jerremy: I now work at Posh Burger.

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Dave: Oh, I hate those,

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Jerremy: I go to Posh

Burger, I fill out my screen.

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No one talks to me,

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Dave: right?

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Jerremy: and then I get a nu, 78.

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And then I show up, and

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Dave: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Jerremy: food,

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Dave: Right.

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Jerremy: which whatever.

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Like, I

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Dave: But then they ask

you to tip the machine.

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Right.

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Jerremy: Oh, it bro.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Dave: tipping the machine.

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Here's a tip.

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Don't be a machine.

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Jerremy: I still don't know how

I feel about this machine tip.

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'cause I, I, I'm a super generous

person, dude, but I'm like, I

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don't think I'm tipping this

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Dave: No.

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Jerremy: Like,

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Dave: the machine.

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Jerremy: didn't do anything,

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Dave: You did half the work.

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Jerremy: I, I should, there

should be a discount, for

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using this, using this service.

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I am now doing all the work.

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Dave: right.

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Jerremy: it is.

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I, I think, I think that

is a wave coming, dude.

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And you have, so restaurants are gonna

be adopting this soon where you sit down,

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you just order from a, I mean, Chili's.

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Applebee's, Outback, red Lobster.

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They're predni still around.

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They're probably gone.

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Dave: Yeah.

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No, they're still around.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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I got a great story on We Lobster.

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We'll, we'll we, we'll

tell that another day.

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Jerremy: have these, you're gonna sit

down, you're gonna order, you're gonna,

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you're barely gonna talk to a person.

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Dave: that just happened to me.

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I was out with our buddy Craig, and he

took me out and I, I don't remember it,

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but it was a, it was a big chain, right?

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we sat and, there wasn't a weight person.

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It was, and I was like, looking around.

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I was waiting, I was waiting for the

weight person and he just, he, he grabbed

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the tablet, tablet that was on the, I'm

like, oh God, this is, this is me not

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making it out into the real world enough.

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I, yeah.

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It's, it's for real, right?

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And I was there at the first,

I, I, I created the first

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internet revolution, right?

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And I, we knew we were

changing the world and.

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like there were so many jobs that just

disappeared that we don't talk about.

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Sure.

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There were, there were so much

money, wealth, and jobs that we

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created, but all of the type setters

at the Washington Post got, axed.

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Right.

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You didn't need those folks anymore.

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like so many people who worked in

circulation departments, the entire

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music industry got wiped out.

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like there, it was painful

for a lot of people,

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Dave: and it created a lot

more, but the people that it was

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painful for didn't necessarily

translate into new jobs for them.

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like they, you don't just, you don't

just be, like that was the whole,

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bullshit of like, learn to code.

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you're, you're, you might be a coal

miner today, but learn to code.

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Well, how's that working out for you?

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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.

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Dave: like with ai, it's gonna be

very serious when, like you don't

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see a doctor anymore, you see an AI

doctor, and you might have one doctor

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checking on like 20 ais, right?

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That are serving a

hundred different people.

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or a nurse or a lawyer or a tax preparer.

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I'm gonna do all my

taxes with AI this year.

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like I'm not gonna pay anybody to do it.

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That means my tax accountant

is, is SOL, right?

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so that's, a couple thousand bucks that

she's not gonna get, and it's gonna take

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me probably 30, 40 minutes to do my taxes.

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so, it's, the thing about AI under

like the internet revolution is the

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internet revolution realistically

took about 10 to 15 years.

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The AI revolution is here and

it's happening immediately, right?

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it's just very fast.

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And so the ability for.

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The, economy and for people

to adjust isn't there?

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It's just not.

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like you and I, we produced this podcast.

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I produced this podcast for us,

and we don't have any staff.

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like I pushed buttons and out the other

side of it, whereas three years ago,

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we would've need a social media person.

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We would've need a, somebody to cut

these things up, to put 'em on the line.

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Like it was, it was very intensive.

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Now it's just a push button.

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and then, like there's AI podcasts now

that don't have human beings, right?

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So I, I think that there's

plenty of jobs to be had, but

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they're gonna be AI related.

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and, and that it's whoever the AI is

gonna go after, it's gonna be like the

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eye of so on, it's just gonna zap and

it's just like, that's gonna be gone.

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like real estate agents.

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Does anybody need a real

estate agent these days?

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I, I don't think so.

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Right?

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That used to be a job.

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Jerremy: Yeah, I, we

don't, you don't need it.

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And those are the shift.

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Those are the shifts that are coming, man.

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Those are like,

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: I'm, I literally had two

hours of conversation today about

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creating an AI title company.

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I just bought my mom a house in Lake

City, Florida, 4% closing costs.

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And I'm like, what?

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For

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Dave: Why?

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Yeah.

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Put it on the blockchain.

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Yeah.

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Jerremy: Yeah, dude.

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Yeah.

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Like,

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Dave: A hundred percent.

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Jerremy: well, first and foremost

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Dave: got a guy you need to talk to.

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He owns a title company.

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Jerremy: can you hurry up

and put on the blockchain?

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Like Bitcoin, like any crypto?

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Aren't you supposed to

be doing that years ago?

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Wasn't that what you were created

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Dave: And I mean, the title, the

title on the blockchain, right?

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Like,

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Jerremy: nothing.

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Dave: yo title companies do Zero.

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Yes.

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Jerremy: And you called that

And ever since you called that,

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I'm like, damn it, he's right.

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Like it is done.

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Nothing

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Dave: Nothing.

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Jerremy: like zero.

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Dave: No, no.

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Jerremy: but yes, we

should be able to do that.

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And I totally agree.

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And there needs to be some,

some big shifts there.

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There's ton, dude.

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AI is going to absolutely cause a

storm of job losses It is gonna be

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a period of time, it'll be a short

period of time, where unemployment

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will get over 10% and people are

gonna have to find some new jobs.

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the largest recent, unemployment

was,:

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that like eight to 10% mark.

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I think that can happen again.

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I think it would just be a, a

unique proposition because companies

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are gonna be making more money.

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They just will need less people.

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And then the people will get

time on their hands to go and

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create more value for the world.

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And I think it'll be very short-lived.

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I do not think it'll

cause an economic crisis.

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And that's an interesting thing that a

lot of people are saying is, I actually

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think the economy's gonna be fine.

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'cause most of the companies that are

using AI are gonna be making more money

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and they're gonna funnel it into things.

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Right.

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Is the government gonna tax them more?

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Or again, are they gonna have

some type of living expense or

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are they gonna go, Hey, listen.

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We're Starbucks, we don't

need any employees anymore.

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Buy like we have a robot and, and

AI to literally do everything,

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Dave: Right.

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Jerremy: we're gonna

keep, 80,000 employees.

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Just go talk to people and

wear a Starbucks shirt and say,

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you should drink our coffee.

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You're awesome.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: 'em brand ambassadors, bro.

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That's gonna be a real thing

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: you, you get paid to be a nice

human being and love on people with a

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branded t-shirt and maybe a tattoo on

your arm of the company or something.

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And maybe, hopefully it's not

permanent, but what I'm saying?

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Dave: Face that too.

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Of Starbucks.

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Jerremy: hundred percent.

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It's gonna be a job.

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100%.

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Dave: Yeah.

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Jerremy: employees are gonna go, Hey,

I still wanna work here and I like

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working here and I enjoy working here.

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But the companies will like, yeah,

but we don't need you at all.

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so they're gonna create these shifts

because the, the country, the president,

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the whomever isn't gonna let all the

companies just fire all the employees.

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Because it would, and here's

the interesting thing.

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I do think AI could

create 50% unemployment.

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It could be that bad.

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It really could.

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I don't think that they're

going to allow that.

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I think there'll be lobbies and there'll

be, regulations that will come in place

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and saying, Hey, you can't do this.

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And if you do this, then you

have to take this money and put

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it into this fund of some kind.

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And you gotta use this fund to invest

into the markets for kids or for

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children or for people who have lost

their job because of whatever software

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program or AI or whatever the case is.

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And so I don't think it'll create an

economic collapse, that's just my belief.

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But I do believe that, we will

need the right leadership in place.

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And more importantly, I also think

that you're gonna need some, some

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visionaries to be a part of this, to

kind of navigate the country and allow

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them to know that, hey, as a country,

we've been working too long for money.

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And now it's time for money

to be working for you.

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And you need to create, and

you need to build, and you

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become a legacy human being.

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That that is ultra remarkable and

incredible and loving and kind

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and generous, and people like

to be with you and talk to you.

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And that create that person

more of those people, and then

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the country becomes better.

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Dave: I like it.

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Jerremy: Yeah.

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Dope.

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Alex: Nobody talks about their

JOB on their deathbed—Dave drops

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that line and it just sits there.

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Legacy over title, love over grind...

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but the post-abundance world Jerremy

maps next asks whether AI gives us that

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freedom or BURNS the middle class first.

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